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Bob Woodward book blames Obama for debt deal collapse
American Thinker ^ | 09/06/2012 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/06/2012 6:43:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Read the entire 7,000 word ABC News story to get a grasp of Obama's incompetence in dealing with a major negotiation. Absolutely breathtaking:

An explosive mix of dysfunction, miscommunication, and misunderstandings inside and outside the White House led to the collapse of a historic spending and debt deal that President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner were on the verge of reaching last summer, according to revelations in author Bob Woodward's latest book.

The book, "The Price of Politics," on sale Sept. 11, 2012, shows how close the president and the House speaker were to defying Washington odds and establishing a spending framework that included both new revenues and major changes to long-sacred entitlement programs.

But at a critical juncture, with an agreement tantalizingly close, Obama pressed Boehner for additional taxes as part of a final deal -- a miscalculation, in retrospect, given how far the House speaker felt he'd already gone.

The president called three times to speak with Boehner about his latest offer, according to Woodward. But the speaker didn't return the president's phone call for most of an agonizing day, in what Woodward calls a "monumental communications lapse" between two of the most powerful men in the country.

When Boehner finally did call back, he jettisoned the entire deal. Obama lost his famous cool, according to Woodward, with a "flash of pure fury" coming from the president; one staffer in the room said Obama gripped the phone so tightly he thought he would break it.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bobwoodward; debt; genesperling; nationaldebt; obama; obamadebt; partisanmediashills; sequester; woodward

1 posted on 09/06/2012 6:43:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL...where is that sputtering Hitler spoof? This one with Hitler being Obama on the phone is a natural.


2 posted on 09/06/2012 6:45:28 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind
Boehner has a spine?

Who knew?

Must be on loan.
3 posted on 09/06/2012 6:48:14 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: SeekAndFind

but obama had a huge temper tantrum just like a little toddler when he didn’t get his own way


4 posted on 09/06/2012 6:51:45 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

While this is slightly interesting, all of Woodward’s books are crap.


5 posted on 09/06/2012 6:53:02 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: SeekAndFind

So in other words, he is an amateur?


6 posted on 09/06/2012 6:53:31 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: j_k_l
If you read the article.... you'll see Boehner was off the reservation and was about to sell us out. Cantor, the majority leader and tea party supporter, was not a party to the talks and found out only after Boehner initiated them

In this case Obama pushed Boehner out the door when he asked for more tax increases beyond the ones that Boehner had already sold The republicans out for.....

7 posted on 09/06/2012 6:53:46 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: j_k_l

So in short.... Boehner only found his spine after obama pushed for more...


8 posted on 09/06/2012 6:54:56 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: thingumbob; LS; AuH2ORepublican
You statement is amazing and speaks volume. This book shows how bad 0bama is and all you can do is focus on Boehner.
9 posted on 09/06/2012 6:56:04 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: SeekAndFind

From previous reporting on this, the “deal” included $800M in taxes and Obama wanted $400M more. This was no minor tweak to a deal that was close to being closed, it was a major overreach. And WTF was Boehner thinking? Dear Lord, I hope the first thing the new Congress does is replace the Speaker.


10 posted on 09/06/2012 7:03:34 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Another Clintonite Knife In Obama’s Back?


11 posted on 09/06/2012 7:03:58 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Perdogg
The fact that this is bad for Obama was already a given by the title of this article.

However, I was attempting to correct the statement that "Boehner has a spine, who knew?"

The real fact of the matter is that they both need to go....and I think that the timing of this book will help remove both of them.

12 posted on 09/06/2012 7:07:22 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Perdogg

Post # 10 makes my point nicely also......


13 posted on 09/06/2012 7:08:36 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Perdogg

Any book from a leftist icon like Woodward coming out with negative stories on Obama helps Romney. Obama couldn’t shift to the center like Clinton did and work with Republicans.

Boehner was willing to discuss $800 million in “new revenue” (taxes) if the spending cuts were kept. Obama changed the deal midstream to 1.2 billion and Boehner walked away. Never got back to Obama and Obama was pissed.

Most amusing story though was Pelosi and other Dems were getting down to dealing with the numbers and Obama called. She put him on speaker phone and he started giving a speech. She out him on Mute so he could babble in the background while they got down to real business.


14 posted on 09/06/2012 7:09:07 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind

Another”Random Act of Journalism”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 09/06/2012 7:12:06 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: SeekAndFind

A “flash of pure fury” coming from OUR MANCHILD president? Utterly hilarious! “...Obama gripped the phone so tightly he thought he would break it.” That string bean breaking a phone? This is so laughable.


16 posted on 09/06/2012 7:14:21 AM PDT by lesko
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To: SeekAndFind
...one staffer in the room said Obama gripped the phone so tightly he thought he would break it.

Bambi couldn't punch through wet tissue paper.

17 posted on 09/06/2012 7:15:09 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: lesko
If Osama Obama implodes on election night I'm not going to wait up for a consession speak......

"The One" has never believed he's been wrong yet so why would he concede it on election night?

18 posted on 09/06/2012 7:18:47 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: SeekAndFind
“A steady steam” of vitriol, hate spewed by far right about Obama, spurred on by “crazies” on cable tv/talk radio, says @SenatorDurbin.
19 posted on 09/06/2012 7:19:17 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: thingumbob; NonValueAdded
The revenue Boehner was offering was from closing loopholes.

Not sure why you consider this a bad thing since simplifying the tax codes was something conservatives have wanted for years.

When Obama at the last minute pushed tax hikes Boehner walked.

But lets all blame Boehner as usual...

20 posted on 09/06/2012 7:37:42 AM PDT by what's up
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To: thingumbob

Boehner gets far too much respect on FR IMO.

He’s s slithery snake who should be replaced in the next Congress.

(Though I very much doubt that will happen.)


21 posted on 09/06/2012 7:39:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

The trouble with tax raising agreements is that they usually rely on cutting spending in the future and raising taxes today. While today’s Congress has control over today’s spending, it does not control a future Congress, which is autonomous and free to ignore an agreement from today’s Congress.


22 posted on 09/06/2012 7:42:18 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: 9YearLurker

If more tea partiers get elected in this cycle....he just might be out as leader. I don’t care if he gets re-elected (Not sure but I think he was challenged but won in the primary), I just don’t want him for leader anymore.


23 posted on 09/06/2012 7:45:41 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: thingumbob

Oh, I agree. He’s fine for his district, just a disaster anywhere in the leadership.


24 posted on 09/06/2012 7:47:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: what's up
He lost me when he supported the first bailout in 2008...I was screaming at his office warning that it was a set up when I lived in OHIO!

Nuff said!

25 posted on 09/06/2012 7:47:36 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: 9YearLurker

In the article they talk about Cantor and the tea Party.......I think he might be the likely successor.


26 posted on 09/06/2012 7:49:52 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: thingumbob
Doesn't mean he "lost his spine" or was "selling us out" on the debt deal.

He was doing what conservatives generally want, yet still people use this dumb rhetoric.

27 posted on 09/06/2012 8:01:22 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
Okay... You win..

He just occasionaly misplaces it.....

28 posted on 09/06/2012 8:04:46 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: thingumbob

Too bad. Cantor strikes me as more of a snake than Boehner, though he’s at least playing it a little closer to tea party positions.


29 posted on 09/06/2012 8:46:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cotton1706
I'm starting to feel Woodward’s a force to be reckoned with .. The real deal - a liberal intellectual. Aren't many of 'em left anymore.

Much of the press acts like they're intellectuals - but they 'coincidentally' come up with the same lines at the same time. A group-think. And attitude - heave on 'style' ... A group-think that's transparent.

Are the real thinkers behind their words working at dem PR Firms - like the one James Carville runs? Is the press being fed?

The food chain: dem PR firm to the New York Times to newspapers to TV pretty heads? Eight people in the United States doing the thinking on that side? How long until the press has to use teleprompters too? Not even empty suits anymore - empty minds.

30 posted on 09/06/2012 8:50:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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To: Perdogg; thingumbob; LS; AuH2ORepublican
Your right Perdogg - the book speaks of Obama's character flaws that influence policy in a bad way. There's no reason to focus on Boehner - but I've seen the same type comment on other threads.. odd.

I'm starting to feel Woodward’s a force to be reckoned with .. The real deal - a liberal intellectual. Aren't many of 'em left anymore.

Much of the press acts like they're intellectuals - but they 'coincidentally' come up with the same lines at the same time. A group-think. And attitude - heavy on 'style' ... A group-think that's transparent.

Are the real thinkers behind their words working at dem PR Firms - like the one James Carville runs? Is the press being fed?

The food chain: dem PR firm to the New York Times to newspapers to TV pretty heads? Eight people in the United States doing the thinking on that side? Not even empty suits anymore - empty minds.

31 posted on 09/06/2012 8:57:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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To: GOPJ
Much of the press acts like they're intellectuals - but they 'coincidentally' come up with the same lines at the same time. A group-think

Nope...just Media Matters.

32 posted on 09/06/2012 9:17:18 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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