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Atheists bummed by Democrats' God flip ("a step backward in tolerance for nonbelievers.")
Politico ^ | 09/06/2012 | By KEVIN CIRILLI

Posted on 09/06/2012 7:51:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

God has returned to the Democratic Party platform, a move some atheists say is a step backward in tolerance for nonbelievers.

“We’re disappointed,” Teresa MacBain, spokeswoman for American Atheists, told POLITICO. “What appeared to be a bold move by the Democrats to be inclusive has been pulled away. It sends a mixed message. Many, many people who are nonbelievers fall in the lines of the Democrats.”

The party was criticized for removing “God” and “Jerusalem” from its platform. It reversed the decision earlier Wednesday to reflect President Barack Obama’s views.

Republicans, not to mention some Democrats, had criticized the party for removing the language. GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan told Fox News on Wednesday morning that Democrats had “purged” the language from the platform.

“It’s not in keeping with our founding documents, our founding vision,” Ryan said. “I’d guess you’d have to ask the Obama administration why they purged all this language from their platform.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atheism; dnc; dncconvention; dncplatform; god; godandjerusalem; godjerusalem; godjerusalemvideo; obama; platform
Well, you can't make everybody happy can you??
1 posted on 09/06/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

PWN3D!!!!
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/09/05/picture-snapped-and-emailed-to-me-by-a-colleague-from-the-clarification-process/


2 posted on 09/06/2012 7:52:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: SeekAndFind
Many, many people who are nonbelievers fall in the lines of the Democrats.”

Many will.

3 posted on 09/06/2012 7:53:06 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Macbain adn her other atheistic followers should make a statement and NOT VOTE in November. Or better yet, start their own 3rd party of Jewhaters.


4 posted on 09/06/2012 7:56:44 AM PDT by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, you can't make everybody happy can you??

They can always join Athiests for a Mormon President


5 posted on 09/06/2012 7:58:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Leftists are freaking insane


6 posted on 09/06/2012 8:00:08 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AppyPappy
Might as well post the pic here...

7 posted on 09/06/2012 8:01:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Note from an deist: While I don't subscribe to nor believe any religion has the correct answers regarding the universe or afterlife, I firmly believe that Christian/Judeo ethics have been the foundation of bettering this rock. I live my life by those ethics.

Ask me how I can while not being a Christian/Jew/Hindu/Buddist...don't bother with Islam. Ask me and I will tell you how a secularist can believe in such values, but not believe in the religion.

8 posted on 09/06/2012 8:03:10 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

They had a similar picture from the RNC over the rules changes there. Both establishments are so sure of the vote ahead of time.


9 posted on 09/06/2012 8:03:41 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Tolerance for unbelievers! What? The unbelievers have NO tolerance for those who believe in God. We allow unbelievers to work with us, but they actively seek to get believers terminated. Been there and done that already...
10 posted on 09/06/2012 8:06:31 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see the mention of God in a general way, e.g., in the Declaration of Independence, Pledge of Allegiance or in political speeches and documents as a coercive establishment of a religion (i.e., breach of the establishment clause). If you don’t believe, you can ignore those bits. Rather I see it as a reasonable accomodation to free exercise (i.e., the free exercise clause) by giving voice to the religious beliefs and sentiments of what is still I believe the majority of the people that the body politic should make some general acknowledgement of God our Creator. I see that as completely different from, say, applying a religious test to public office or some other coercive measure.


11 posted on 09/06/2012 8:09:30 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"The unbelievers have NO tolerance for those who believe in God."

I am an "unbeliever", but not only have "tolerance" for those who believe in a hands-on god, I fully support those who live by the Golden Rule. Ask me why, although that already explains much of my position.

12 posted on 09/06/2012 8:22:44 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like John Adams said in a letter to his wife....”That’s their problem”.


13 posted on 09/06/2012 8:30:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

“Backward” is the new “Forward”


14 posted on 09/06/2012 8:47:33 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: AppyPappy
It's no wonder he back-pedalled a couple of times.

In MY opinion ... the NO's had it

If he had called a fourth vote, I'm convinced whomever had a larynx left would have busted it shouting NO !

The dems are muslim are Godless and they have no one to blame but themselves.

15 posted on 09/06/2012 8:55:32 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SeekAndFind
a step backward in tolerance for nonbelievers.

code for acceptance of achievement of self-actualization by means of permissive, subjectivistic, relativistic morality, and alternative and experimental lifestyles.

16 posted on 09/06/2012 8:56:17 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: SeekAndFind
I think Obama approved the scratching of ‘God’ not because it was considered to be an affront to atheists, but rather because he viewed it as an affront to ‘Allah’.
17 posted on 09/06/2012 9:15:18 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: knarf
The Godless Jew hater party. ( jackass symbol here)
18 posted on 09/06/2012 9:24:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: A Navy Vet
Ask me how I can while not being a Christian/Jew/Hindu/Buddist...I will tell you how a secularist can believe in such values, but not believe in the religion.

Sorry, no-can-do. There's a biblical injunction against it:

Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself....Proverbs 26:4

19 posted on 09/06/2012 9:41:52 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Wisconsinlady

With those credentials they could vote for Ron Paul.


20 posted on 09/06/2012 10:08:07 AM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This flip-flop suits me fine — now *everybody* is pissed at the Donks.


21 posted on 09/06/2012 10:18:45 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: SeekAndFind; 2ndDivisionVet; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Whenifhow; Cincinatus' Wife; familyop; ...
Dems are nowhere . . .

Savage: Dems Rejection of God 'The Turning Point'

Please listen to Savage at the link

22 posted on 09/07/2012 2:23:27 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: SeekAndFind; 2ndDivisionVet; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Whenifhow; Cincinatus' Wife; familyop; ...
Along the same lines . . .

A Godless Party Expels the Creator

The words of Patrick J. Buchanan

23 posted on 09/07/2012 2:29:47 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: ex-Texan

Savage nailed it, as did Buchanan.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 8:18:47 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: tbpiper
""Ask me how I can while not being a Christian/Jew/Hindu/Buddist...I will tell you how a secularist can believe in such values, but not believe in the religion. Sorry, no-can-do. There's a biblical injunction against it. "Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself....Proverbs 26:4"

I'll tell you anyways: Whether a great god in the sky (though obviously non-active), or some mysterious divine intervention, or just shit happened in the Big Bang, all humans have pretty much the same emotions. I've seen it my world travels while Navy.

Point is that most humans have empathy and sympathy in their brain pan or heart if you will. They need not believe in a higher power to feel and think. The Christian/Judeo ethics (no matter the source) have bettered this world in countless ways. Most people subscribe to the age old axiom of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." That's how I live my life because I don't want to hurt anyone - again, empathy.

It makes sense, because it is the fine line between civilization and anarchy. That's how I can believe in such human values without the need for a paternal god to show me that such values work on a secular level.

Disclaimer: I am a diest, much like Thomas Jefferson in early days. I'm not so stupid as to not believe there is something amazing behind the big bang and all that occurs in our universe. Just don't quote scriptures of old superstitious men who thought the world was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth. Your Biblical quotes are lost on me.

Last thought: I admire most peace-loving religions (Islam aside), and appreciate their faith. I wish I had the same, but my intellect won't allow me to believe one particular religion or book knows what's really behind this all.

I fully support Israel and any individual/nation that wants to live in peace and prosper by their own means. It's simply a good thing for mankind.

25 posted on 09/09/2012 10:08:04 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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