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Is DoJ suit against Gallup retaliation for bad Obama poll numbers?
Hotair ^ | 09/06/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/06/2012 7:54:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

So says the Daily Caller, which questions the timing of a lawsuit brought against Gallup by Eric Holder and the Department of Justice over claims of overbilling for services. Matthew Boyle does his best to connect dots after the release of e-mails show Gallup's response to a request from "the White House" to explain their methodology and David Axelrod's attempt to publicly wheedle the venerable polling service into changing its modeling to improve Barack Obama's standing:

Internal emails between senior officials at The Gallup Organization, obtained by The Daily Caller, show senior Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod attempting to subtly intimidate the respected polling firm when its numbers were unfavorable to the president.

After Gallup declined to change its polling methodology, Obama’s Department of Justice hit it with an unrelated lawsuit that appears damning on its face.

Appears is the operative word, but we’ll get back to that in a moment. First, Boyle reports on internal e-mails at Gallup after Axelrod publicly questioned Gallup's modeling of the 2012 electorate:

Internally, Gallup officials discussed via email how to respond Axelrod’s accusations. One suggested that it “seems like a pretty good time for a blog response,” and named a potential writer.

In response to that suggestion, another senior Gallup official wrote — in an email chain titled “Axelrod vs. Gallup” — that the White House “has asked” a senior Gallup staffer “to come over and explain our methodology too.”

That Gallup official, the email continued, “has a plan that includes blogging and telling WH [the White House] he would love to have them come over here etc. This could be a very good moment for us to [show] our super rigorous methods compared to weak samples etc. …”

The writer named several news organizations with their own polling methodologies, all of which resulted in numbers more favorable to President Obama at the time.

In response to that email, a third senior Gallup official said he thought Axelrod’s pressure “sounds a little like a Godfather situation.”

“Imagine Axel[rod] with Brando’s voice: ‘[Name redacted], I’d like you to come over and explain your methodology…You got a nice poll there….would be a shame if anything happened to it…’”

In a second email chain titled “slanderous link about Gallup methodology,” another senior Gallup official noted that a Washington Examiner story on Axelrod’s anti-Gallup tweet was “on [the] Drudge [Report] right now,” before writing that the episode was “[s]o politically motivated, it’s laughable.”

“As they say in b-ball: he’s trying to work the refs,” that official wrote to other senior Gallup staffers. “What a joke. Axel’s had a bad week. He got in the middle of the Ann Romney thing. Then said the country is going in the wrong direction. (Oops!) Now he’s swinging at us….”

This exchange took place in the spring of this year. The problem with the “retaliation” theory is that the dispute between Gallup and the DoJ goes back to 2009. Boyle reports that long after the jump. In fact, the DoJ served subpoenas on Gallup in early 2010, although it took another 18 months to the fall of 2011 to get a meeting between Gallup and the DoJ. The whistleblower filed the initial lawsuit, which the DoJ joined last month, four months after Axelrod’s public complaint about modeling in the electoral polls.

Could this be retaliation? It’s possible, I suppose, but it’s not terribly rational, with no upside and lots of downside over a nearly-meaningless issue. People complain about polling models all the time; heck, I do it nearly every week, including Gallup’s occasionally. Polls arguably have some impact on elections, but Axelrod and Obama have far more influence on elections than Gallup or any other pollster, so intimidation and retaliation won’t do anything to improve their prospects that they couldn’t do for themselves.

And even if one thinks it might, why wait so long to retaliate? The worst possible time for retaliation against a pollster is two months before an election, when their results get the maximum amount of attention. It’s the investigation that intimidates, not the lawsuit, which is the other shoe dropping. If one was inclined to think that Gallup might skew results to a favored outcome, wouldn’t it now be in their interest to work against Obama to change the AG and end the lawsuit?

Gabriel Malor is equally skeptical:

It’s true that Axelrod criticized Gallup and that DOJ is suing Gallup, but there’s no evidence – not even the timing- that they’re related.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; doj; dojgalluplawsuit; gallup; liberalfascism; obama; poll

1 posted on 09/06/2012 7:54:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012

That lawsuit has been in the works since 2009, long before Axelrod got huffy at Gallup in April of this year.

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012

DOJ is suing Gallup to recover taxpayer money that it’s owed due to Gallup’s (alleged) overbilling.

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012

The lawsuit arose because a former Gallup employee noted that Gallup overcharges for its government contracts.

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012

This isn’t journalism. It’s innuendo.

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) September 6, 2012

I wouldn’t go that far. Boyle’s piece is more analysis than journalism, and the stories of Axelrod’s gripe and the DoJ lawsuit against Gallup are both interesting. This just looks like an effort to connect dots that simply aren’t connectable.

2 posted on 09/06/2012 7:55:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
.....still trying to "Bend the vote to the left"....

Problem is: I'll bet their internals already over sample democrats....

3 posted on 09/06/2012 7:57:16 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course it is. “Chicago way.” Who doubts it?

I’m sure the Gallup people know the truth, as do all the other big polling companies.

I’m guessing Moody’s and S&P were given the same message a couple of years ago.

4 posted on 09/06/2012 7:57:44 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gallup has nothing if it caves to Obama’s extortion. They will never have credibility again.

5 posted on 09/06/2012 7:58:32 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind
As democrats always say:

"It's not the nature of the evidence, but the seriousness of the charge."

6 posted on 09/06/2012 7:59:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: SeekAndFind

The DoJ is saying that der Fuehrer did not get the fixed results he paid for.


7 posted on 09/06/2012 8:00:38 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SeekAndFind
this kind of government out of control screams for a surgical removal of the cancer that is the zer0 Regime.

if they win this thing by cheating(they ARE cheating...but they may not win) we need to consider alternatives...and it is time for the states to take a stance.

the POSOTUS is SO trying to destroy America in any way, shape or form that he can.

8 posted on 09/06/2012 8:01:35 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: txrefugee

I thought they lost their credibility long ago with their polls that are D+12 and D+15. Taking a poll and admitting in the fine print that they polled 12 or 15% more Democrats in the poll than Republicans is propaganda. Their credibility died long ago.

9 posted on 09/06/2012 8:01:49 AM PDT by DebraAI
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To: SeekAndFind

This is getting better for America, by the minute. Stock up on lots of popcorn. The situation really speaks for itself -— the truth is something Obama, et al, could never handle.

10 posted on 09/06/2012 8:03:43 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SeekAndFind; mickie
Eric Holder and his Department of Injustice should sue Obama, Axelgrease and various other residents and inmates of the government-owned (i.e., taxpayers') White House for illegal use of the White House as Obama's re-election campaign headquarters and for illegal campaign activities taking place there.

(I'm not holdering my breath.....)


11 posted on 09/06/2012 8:04:15 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: SeekAndFind
And, for an even scarier thought...

...much more repression to come after the election, when Mister Obama has more ... ahem ... "flexibility", n'est ce pas?


12 posted on 09/06/2012 8:07:12 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind
Could this be retaliation? It’s possible, I suppose, but it’s not terribly rational . . .

Since when has Obama/Holder acted rationally?

14 posted on 09/06/2012 8:10:43 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: SeekAndFind

The lawsuit arose becuase a former Gallup employee noted that Gallup overcharged for its Government contracts.

Since when did overspending g’mint monies become a problem?
Besides, I thought following the rules was optional during a Dimwit Admin?

15 posted on 09/06/2012 8:13:14 AM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil-- A-merican)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a shame they won’t respond with a poll that oversamples Republicans +12 just to get under their skin.

But what it really says is that polls can be manipulated, something most insiders already know but the gullible public often doesn’t.

I think what has the White House really miffed is Gallup’s polling on unemployment which are worse than the official numbers. That’s because things really are worse than the official numbers and everybody with a brain already knows that. But the White House hates that Gallup doesn’t just swallow that poll and not report it.

16 posted on 09/06/2012 8:15:15 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: OrangeHoof
Axelrod-a person completely bereft of a moral code.

Sueing GALLOP because they don't like the numbers?

I mean.......what more do you need to know about this WH?

Dirty, dirty, dirty people.

17 posted on 09/06/2012 8:32:59 AM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the suit has been brewing for three years? What’s taken so long? These Dems are the same people who are trying to convince me they can manage my healthcare? If there is a billing error, there is a paper trail, should be a relatively easy situation to bring to closure.

Incompetence is one thing
Corruption is another thing

This administration is run by corrupt incompetents.

18 posted on 09/06/2012 8:36:50 AM PDT by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: austinaero

We are nothing more than a banana republic. After this realization you know one must constantly fear your government. That isn’t changing with a different WH.

19 posted on 09/06/2012 8:43:49 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is the deal with the “overbilling”? I assume the goverment is paying for Obama’s polling which is illegal on its face.

20 posted on 09/06/2012 9:05:03 AM PDT by DrDude (OBAMA/BIDEN=DUMB & DUMBER 2012)
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To: DrDude

AXELROD. Just one of many deranged advisers the FOREIGNER relies on. This guy could play Hitler in a movie and wouldn’t need any makeup. Ax. Skewing the pole numbers does little to help the FOREIGNER. It all catches up with him in November when he gets trounced. Like I said earlier, you should re-apply back to your commie teaching job. Come November you will also be out of a job.

21 posted on 09/06/2012 9:14:28 AM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe the Plumber all over again.

22 posted on 09/06/2012 9:55:06 AM PDT by bgill
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To: grundle

Do you feel the need to post this collection of links on every FR topic today?

Doesn’t this count as spamming?

23 posted on 09/06/2012 10:02:29 AM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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