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Villaraigosa's handling of platform gets mixed reviews from CA
SacBee: Capitol Alert ^ | 9/6/12 | Torey Van Oot

Posted on 09/06/2012 10:59:54 PM PDT by SmithL

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Los Angeles Mayor and Democratic National Committee Chairman Antonio Villaraigosa is still facing questions about his handling of late changes to the Democratic party platform made this week, including from some delegates hailing from his own state.

Villaraigosa presided Wednesday over a vote to restore in the platform references to God and Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The chair declared the amendments adopted after three voice votes from a divided Time Warner Cable Arena audience, drawing objections and boos from some in the crowd who felt the ayes had not hit the two-thirds margin needed for passage.

Dr. Sota Omoigai, a delegate from the San Fernando Valley, was among those dissenting.

"(Former President Bill Clinton) later came out and said one word the Republicans don't understand is arithmetic. There was no arithmetic done when Villaraigosa declared it was two-thirds that had given the voice vote," he said. "...I believe that democracy needs to be practiced in all aspects of the platform. This position cannot be shoved down the party."

Omoigai, who doesn't believe the party should take a stance on Jerusalem as the capital, said it was "very clear" both in the arena and on TV that the vote was either evenly split or in favor of the nos. He called Villaraigosa a "pawn" of party leaders in the decision, but said it still affected his views of the mayor, who has signaled interest in running for statewide office.

Joe Romero, Jr., a delegate from Woodland, said watching on TV, it looked like Villaraigosa "couldn't account for" the two-thirds vote that was declared.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; godlessparty; villaraigosa
The Godless party will say anything to win.
1 posted on 09/06/2012 11:00:01 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I am sure Antonio was just following orders from Axelrod via the CINC. Polling must have indicated dissing God in your platform was not conducive to a Second Regime.


2 posted on 09/06/2012 11:03:53 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SmithL

One word Slick Willie doesn’t understand is, “is”.


3 posted on 09/06/2012 11:07:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (On 5 September 2012 A.D., the communist Democrats tried to kill God and failed.)
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To: SmithL

Who was the woman standing behind him who told him he’d just have to call it and let them do what they’re going to do?


4 posted on 09/06/2012 11:09:35 PM PDT by Man With A Gun
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To: cynwoody

Yep that is exactly right. He was told the Platform would be changed or else. I wish Obama would just show the whole world who he is and what he stands for. Obama is evil


5 posted on 09/06/2012 11:13:46 PM PDT by funfan
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To: cynwoody

The DNC-e rigged the game.


6 posted on 09/06/2012 11:24:46 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: cynwoody

Now we know what Elizabeth Warren was referring to when she said the game is rigged against us.


7 posted on 09/06/2012 11:25:28 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: Man With A Gun
Hannity reports that Chair's teleprompter was already loaded with the language, "In the opinion of the chair, two-thirds having voted in the affirmative, the motion is adopted ..."
8 posted on 09/06/2012 11:26:27 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SmithL
Antonio Villaraigosa (born Antonio Villar) changed his name, and for good reason. His father is a bigger creep than he is.

http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/CA27999111C8632/Antonio-Villar.html

9 posted on 09/06/2012 11:38:46 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: cynwoody
Hannity reports that Chair's teleprompter was already loaded with the language, "In the opinion of the chair, two-thirds having voted in the affirmative, the motion is adopted ..."

lol! So if only 1 person in the building said YES he still had to call it a 2/3 vote? These people are so damned corrupt.

10 posted on 09/06/2012 11:44:01 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: SmithL

I kinda felt sorry for the mayor. He seemed really shocked by the whole thing and didn’t know how to handle it. It was obvious that he had expected an automatic resounding “yay”.

I’d still love to know who took both words out.


11 posted on 09/06/2012 11:58:58 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: South40; cynwoody
So if only 1 person in the building said YES he still had to call it a 2/3 vote?

Nobody gets it.

Watch the video of Mayor V and pay close attention to his words at the very beginning. He asked and took a vote (which passed almost unanimously) to SUSPEND THE RULES.

Words mean things.

The need for a quorum, or 2/3, or majority, or roll call, or more than 20 people to even be on the floor at the time..... those are RULES that were all UNDER SUSPENSION until after the vote.

NOTICE how EMPHATICALLY Mayor V restates the SUSPENSION OF THE RULES right after the first vote. Watch his facial expression as well.

It was supposed to 'look good' (the delegates were supposed to go along with the plan), but when it didn't, well.... they never should have agreed to SUSPEND THE RULES.

12 posted on 09/07/2012 12:01:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: UCANSEE2

No, the suspension of the rules was to make an amendment to the platform at all.

By rule the platform can only be changed by the committee, so in order to propose and adopt an amendment on the floor, the rules had to be suspended, which required a 2/3 vote, which he got.

But once the rule was suspended and the proposal of an amendment was allowed, they still needed a 2/3 vote to actually adopt the amendment, which they he did not get, and after 3 tries, he still didn’t get it, and he just adopted it anyway.


13 posted on 09/07/2012 12:04:59 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: bronxville
I’d still love to know who took both words out.

The boss.


14 posted on 09/07/2012 12:04:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Duh. Thank you UCANSEE2. She pretty much runs the nation.


15 posted on 09/07/2012 12:18:44 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Truthsearcher
No, the suspension of the rules was to make an amendment to the platform at all.

Correctamundo.

16 posted on 09/07/2012 12:19:01 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: Truthsearcher
No, the suspension of the rules was to make an amendment to the platform at all.

You are making that assumption. Let's see if it pans out.

By rule the platform can only be changed by the committee, so in order to propose and adopt an amendment on the floor, the rules had to be suspended, which required a 2/3 vote, which he got.

So if the RULE is that it can only be changed by committee, then it should only be changed by committee. I mean, if you are going to have rules, you can't just ignore them when convenient. Let's proceed.

But once the rule was suspended and the proposal of an amendment was allowed, they still needed a 2/3 vote to actually adopt the amendment,...

Apparently not. The teleprompter had already CONFIRMED THE VOTE, which would imply that the DECISION had been made WHAT WOULD HAPPEN way before the vote (and because they never had an inkling the morons would vote the wrong way).

which they he did not get, and after 3 tries, he still didn’t get it, and he just adopted it anyway.

SO, after they SUSPENDED THE RULES they voted, and after 3 failures (against the rules is it not?), they declared the AYES the WINNER (against the rules again, is it not?) pretty much indicating that even the rules for 2/3 VOCAL VOTE (which is so ridiculous it just proves the vote was just a 'video formality') were not being followed.

So.... regardless to which of us is right, it sure is obvious THEY WERE CHEATING, one way or another, isn't it?

17 posted on 09/07/2012 12:20:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: South40
No, the suspension of the rules was to make an amendment to the platform at all.

After which they violated the rule of 2/3 vote by redoing the vote three times, and then violated the rule of 2/3 vote by calling it for the AYES when it was obvious the NAYS had it.

No one has been CALLED for VIOLATING the RULES, so.... the logical conclusion is that everything was OK because the rules WERE SUSPENDED until the VOTING was done. Unless you have some other explanation for how they got away with it.

Actually, either way you call it, the DEMS were CHEATING to attempt to FOOL the PUBLIC. 'HOW' we each think it was done is probably a trivial thing.

18 posted on 09/07/2012 12:29:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Of course they cheated, the mistake they made was that they thought the delegates knew the score and would play along with the amendment vote. They did not expect the delegates to stage a revolt and embarrass them like that.


19 posted on 09/07/2012 12:39:58 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher

I’m only surprised they didn’t declare Jerusalem
the Capital of Palestine and insert the word Allah
somewhere.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 12:53:12 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Man With A Gun
Who was the woman standing behind him who told him he’d just have to call it and let them do what they’re going to do?

Political officer. :)

21 posted on 09/07/2012 1:04:49 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: SmithL
I heard the DNC will actually invite a delegate from the Gaza strip to participate in the 2016 DNC Convention


22 posted on 09/07/2012 1:10:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: SmithL

How did this guy get to be mayor of LA without knowing how to fast gavel a voice vote?


23 posted on 09/07/2012 2:32:07 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: SmithL
Though some other Freepers might have made the "connection," I wonder if Villaraigosa realized what he was doing (as a Secular Progressive RAT, probably not) when he asked (and got resounding "no's" 3 times) about reinstating God back into their platform?

Luke 22:34

But Jesus said, "Peter, let me tell you something. Before the rooster crows tomorrow morning, you will deny three times that you even know me."

25 posted on 09/07/2012 3:23:53 AM PDT by neveralib
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To: UCANSEE2

Oh brother!

What a strange looking woman...kind of evil looking.


26 posted on 09/07/2012 4:49:25 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SmithL
Assuming Villaraigosa has some small bit of Biblical teaching in his background, he must have felt rather strange when he got to the Third Denial!

We recall that when all this happened to Peter, ".... he went out, and wept bitterly." (Matthew 26:71-75) ~ and although this one was more like Villaraigosa portraying Pontius Pilate, the mob (of Democrats) crying out for Barabbas must have been more than familiar to him.

This guy now has a lifelong problem ~ he presided over an official Democrat party Denial of God three times (a propitious number in such matters), such deed done in the guise of a howling mob ~ which we all know from the Gospel of John can and does occur in sight of the very presence of Satan.

Add to that his adopted surname of "Villaraigosa" ~ a clear Roma adaptation of "Villa Ragusa" which is otherwise today known as Dubrovnik Croatia.

Now, for the one more relationship in this linkage, the medieval Republic of Ragusa had a town motto (according to Wiki) which went;

"Non bene pro toto libertas venditur auro - Latin for "Liberty is not well sold for all the gold".

Kind of like the scene with the moving finger there in Babylon.

27 posted on 09/07/2012 4:59:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SmithL

After three votes, the accumulated Ayes added up to 2/3.

This is a Democrat (not Democratic) method of vote counting.


28 posted on 09/07/2012 5:27:31 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (If you could read my mind ... just count up the felonies!)
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To: SmithL
Villaraigosa's handling of platform gets mixed reviews from CA

Why is Villaraigosa getting a bad wrap? He was "just following orders"...

29 posted on 09/07/2012 5:42:47 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: neveralib

Yes, I thouth of that right when I saw it on utube.

Things don’t happend by accident.


30 posted on 09/07/2012 5:58:54 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: neveralib

Check my post at #27 because there’s more ~ far more!


31 posted on 09/07/2012 6:04:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Man With A Gun; cynwoody; VeniVidiVici
Who was the woman standing behind him who told him he’d just have to call it and let them do what they’re going to do?

That was parliamentarian Helen McFadden, who was doing her job. Villaraigosa ignored her advice--he ignored the three voice votes in which the affirmative clearly failed to reach the required two-thirds--and he read the prescripted outcome off the teleprompter.

32 posted on 09/07/2012 6:37:54 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (The Undemocratic Party.)
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To: SmithL

And what makes them think God wants to be associated with them anymore anyway?!

Echos of “Behold the man!” followed by “Crucify Him! crucify Him!”

Also recall Revelations 3:15-16 “I know your works; I know that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.


33 posted on 09/07/2012 6:51:37 AM PDT by Repent and Believe ("Then Phinehas rose to intervene, and the plague was brought to a halt." Psalm 106:30)
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To: Charles Henrickson
That was parliamentarian Helen McFadden, who was doing her job.

I went looking for DNC parliamentarian and quickly found ... Steny Hoyer. But it appears you nailed it:


Helen T. McFadden
DNC Winter Meeting, Washington, DC, Feb. 1-3, 2007

Your google fu is impressive!

34 posted on 09/07/2012 10:03:19 AM PDT by cynwoody
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