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Employment Situation Summary: 8.1%
Bureau of Labor Statistics ^ | 7 Sep 12 | Bureau of Labor Statistics

Posted on 09/07/2012 5:33:38 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins
My CNN email News alert painted a very bad picture. Only at the end, in passing, did it mention a drop in the rate from 8.3 to 8.1

I am sensing lately that CNN is beginning to pull slightly away from the left. Can't say why, but it is going towards the middle. At least I can say that they have become more fair in their coverage, more like they used to be, back in the beginning.

My father, who is very liberal, refuses to watch them anymore, preferring, of course, MSDNC.

61 posted on 09/07/2012 7:21:42 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: xzins

As we speak, someone at the White House is trying to figure out how to get more people to drop out of the job market so the can get the unemployment figure under 8%.


62 posted on 09/07/2012 7:26:41 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Paradox

In their early years, I was with a Spec Ops unit in the Army, and CNN was on 24/7 in every HQ in our unit. If something was happening in the world, they seemed to be on top of it.

They were also on just about every conservative TV as well. They were a welcome relief from the liberal talking heads, because they’d challenge conventional wisdom.

They they got involved in market share and left objectivity in the dust.

Hoping to gain market share, they instead lost it big time.

I suppose they’re trying to get it back now by moving to the center a bit. I’m glad they are, but I don’t trust them. Don’t trust Fox and Murdoch either.


63 posted on 09/07/2012 7:27:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Raebie; All

Obama The Messiah, the WON!, told us in early 2009 that all we had to do was give him $1.4 TRILLION TAX DOLLARS to pass out to his cronies, and unemployment would magically be just 5.3%, RIGHT NOW!

Some of us tried to explain that this was all Unicorns and bullshit, that the “plan!” had no way of working, but we were ignored.

Worse, we were LAUGHED AT, and called racists, for daring to say this.

We were told that we only hated Obama’s jobs plan because HE WAS BLACK, and that we wanted him to fail

WE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO FAIL....


64 posted on 09/07/2012 7:29:17 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: xzins
Let us not overlook this...

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for June was revised from +64,000 to +45,000, and the change for July was revised from +163,000 to +141,000.

65 posted on 09/07/2012 7:31:21 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 ("You can either limit growth or limit government. We choose to limit government." Paul Ryan.)
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To: ScottinVA

Changed it now to be more accurate surprisingly, but their info blurb under it on the main page still isn’t.


66 posted on 09/07/2012 7:35:11 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: xzins

Yes, this report stinks to high heaven. 400,000 out of labor force is a tidal flood. That is NEVER a good sign; so many people leaving the labor force are pretty much a leading indicator of job loss.

Even 96K is bad on its own — but how do you say that 96K is all smokes and mirrors?


67 posted on 09/07/2012 7:39:00 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: N. Theknow; All

Dang, the FoxNews.com headline is AWESOME on this. It just rips the report and ties it to Biden saying the economy turned the corner.


68 posted on 09/07/2012 7:40:19 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: GoCards
How many people look at 8.1% and think its great news, alot sadly.

Right, and it's unfortunately up to our side (not even FoxNews as they've joined the MSM) to educate the masses...if Romney and Ryan and any associated PAC ads can't do that then it's our fault. The truth of course is the number of folks dropping out of the labor force, which simply should be called, "Shrinkage of Working America".
69 posted on 09/07/2012 7:51:49 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: GoCards
How many people look at 8.1% and think its great news, alot sadly.

Right, and it's unfortunately up to our side (not even FoxNews as they've joined the MSM) to educate the masses...if Romney and Ryan and any associated PAC ads can't do that then it's our fault. The truth of course is the number of folks dropping out of the labor force, which simply should be called, "Shrinkage of Working America".
70 posted on 09/07/2012 7:52:01 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: xzins

This diversion is so they can inch their way to below 8% just in time to anoint the commie muslim scumbag.


71 posted on 09/07/2012 8:03:44 AM PDT by soycd
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To: CincyRichieRich

They actually are doing a good job at least online on this. Surprising how negative they are.


72 posted on 09/07/2012 8:03:56 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

Because both the labor force and the participation rate declined.

The declining force and partcipation means that there are fewer people working not even 1 more person working, certainly not 96,000.

So, what are the 96,000 jobs if the number of working and the rate of people working is less? Perhaps they are new jobs created, as in obama’s “created or saved”.

So, if I lose 10 General Electric jobs and create 1 McDonald’s job that wasn’t there before, then I can report “1 job created”, even though in total I have 9 fewer jobs.


73 posted on 09/07/2012 8:11:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Thanks for the answer!

I thought the labor force didn’t include people who were working, they included people who wanted to work. So, theoretically, it’s possible that a bunch of people who weren’t working dropped their job search altogether?

IMO, it’s possible the report represents another wave of 99ers who had to say they wanted to work for two years but never intended to go back to working in the first place.


74 posted on 09/07/2012 8:16:04 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: rwfromkansas

Even Yahoo News is telling the truth about why the rate dropped high in the article. Really surprising.


75 posted on 09/07/2012 8:16:58 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Cruising For Freedom; xzins
Correction:

I thought the labor force didn’t include people who were working, they included people who wanted to work.

should be: I thought the labor force didn’t include only people who were working, they also included people who wanted to work but weren't.
76 posted on 09/07/2012 8:17:34 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: Cruising For Freedom

If I have 10 people working, I presumably have 10 jobs for them to work in.

But, let’s say one of them is my cousin-in-law who drinks coffee, reads in the restroom all day, and is only there because I don’t want to hurt my cousin’s feelings.

How many “jobs” do I really have?


77 posted on 09/07/2012 8:21:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Excellent point. The people who drop out of the labor force must be getting their sustenance from somewhere.


78 posted on 09/07/2012 8:23:29 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: TMA62

Nobody’s given up. They just know nobody’s hiring. When they hear somebody’s hiring, they’ll apply. All they’ve done is run out of unemployment benefits.


79 posted on 09/07/2012 8:25:33 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

Last month, according to this report, there were 12.5 million people who did not have job slots.

Lots of slots get filled right away because they are not going away. Presumably, lots of slots get created (96,000 last month). Apparently, lots of slots go away either temporarily or permanently.

I could have 10 slots but find it more cost effective to keep only 8 workers and give each of them 50 hours a week instead of filling the other 2 slots.


80 posted on 09/07/2012 8:29:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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