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NO, REALLY: GOVT WARNS OF 'ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE'
AP ^ | Sep 6, 5:58 PM EDT | ALICIA A. CALDWELL

Posted on 09/07/2012 6:33:11 AM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Kartographer
I have one of those and one of these. Between them I could dress out a few zombies.


51 posted on 09/07/2012 7:54:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sybeck1

I need to get more fougas & bouncing betty’s. Remember folks with enough barbed wire, bullets,beef jerky & beer you can stop most anybody. 8*>


52 posted on 09/07/2012 7:57:57 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Lazamataz
Do you know when we can expect the Khan didactic on armories, to include pointers on caliber selection, recommended ammunition quantities, and long term storage requirements?
53 posted on 09/07/2012 7:58:46 AM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned is better than the alternative.)
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To: djf

Newt: My mommy always said there were no monsters - no real ones - but there are.
Ripley: Yes, there are, aren’t there?
Newt: Why do they tell little kids that?
Ripley: Most of the time it’s true.


54 posted on 09/07/2012 8:01:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

You will note that the govt. list of needed items for the Zombie Apocalypse specifically leaves off any mention of firearms . That is not a mistake it is a deliberate act on the part of the govt.


55 posted on 09/07/2012 8:02:11 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: kitchen
Do you know when we can expect the Khan didactic on armories, to include pointers on caliber selection, recommended ammunition quantities, and long term storage requirements?

Don't expect that. When in communication with him -- I was, at one point, envisioning a limited-function game -- he asked me to de-stress firearms. I argued that most zombie movies and series had a heavy firearms focus. He agreed, but said that because of the strong feelings on both sides of the issue, it would be best to avoid. He didn't want the effort to get caught up in anything even remotely controversial.

I guess that's prudent, if your goal is to get a message out, stay off the sources of controversy. There are plenty of sources of information about firearms already.

56 posted on 09/07/2012 8:05:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Nebr FAL owner
You will note that the govt. list of needed items for the Zombie Apocalypse specifically leaves off any mention of firearms . That is not a mistake it is a deliberate act on the part of the govt.

Read my above.

57 posted on 09/07/2012 8:05:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Kartographer
They mostly come out at night. Mostly.
58 posted on 09/07/2012 8:08:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Vince Ferrer; Kartographer
“Only a year or two ago they labeled preppers as borderline terrorists. What prompted the change?”

They aren't talking about actual preppers. I read the info. they had. They say prepare for “a couple of days”, giving you time to go to a “refugee” center.

I'm prepared for most anything but I would live in a cave and eat questionable berries before I would go to their “refugee” center.

59 posted on 09/07/2012 8:09:34 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Kartographer

Jim Rawles, owner of survivalblog.com, was on Coast to Coast last might. He estimates that in the event of a major breakdown in the supply chain, 75% won’t make it...


60 posted on 09/07/2012 8:10:27 AM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
I like the Hornady Zombie Max, but Homeland Security needs to subsidize them. They shoot really well, accurate and clean, but they are expensive.
61 posted on 09/07/2012 8:11:56 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Marcella
With any luck, maybe I will run one of the 'refugee centers'.

Then I get to decide who lives and who dies.

62 posted on 09/07/2012 8:12:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Marcella; Vince Ferrer

Preppers com in all shapes and sizes just like any group of people, most don’t even agree on what they are prepping for, but all of them agree on a fews things one the best hand up you can get is one you give yourself. All of them refuse to be a prop in the backdrop money shot for some news achor showing them standing on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring them a bottle of water, an MRE and a warm banket.

Most feel like Marcella that you either prepare to stand on your own beholden to no one or you end up becoming dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become thier‘serf’.

For myself like Marcella I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic butt to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep.

And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

That’s what the heart of prepping is all about.


63 posted on 09/07/2012 8:19:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lazamataz

“With any luck, maybe I will run one of the ‘refugee centers’. Then I get to decide who lives and who dies.”

I’m not turning my body over to the federal government. I will decide whether I live or die. Unless all my preps are totally destroyed, I will live better than the refugees.


64 posted on 09/07/2012 8:20:11 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Vince Ferrer; All

I’m thinking the townhall meetings for Obamacare & actually having closed door briefings on the various financial shenanigans that have been going on like MF Global. They have realized albeit way to late that things are going to take a nuclear weapons grade shit & that the American people will blame them & they don’t really want to end up hanging from a tree limb or street light .


65 posted on 09/07/2012 8:21:37 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Kartographer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4
66 posted on 09/07/2012 8:25:55 AM PDT by YoungHickey
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To: duffee

Perhaps I wasn’t clear.

In most, if not all zombie movie, novels, games and lore, one of the fundamental necessities in the event of a zombie uprising is the ability to destroy the undead quickly and efficiently. Even the most obtuse federal government drone should know this if he has ANY grasp of the genre.

What is the most efficient way to do this? Firearms and a large cache of ammo. Not dehydrated food or a Berkey water filter, but the venerable Boom Stick.

As you correctly pointed out, there was nothing directly pointing to the feds suggesting up arming, but in the context of Zombie Apocalypse, this would be understood by anyone who understands the concept and recognizes the implied need to defend oneself from waves of undead.

I hope this clarifies the point of my statement and follow on question.


67 posted on 09/07/2012 8:29:56 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: Marcella

Aw, comon, Marcella. I’d let you be one of the living ones! Heck, I might even give you the task of culling through the refugees looking for the cutest chicks to bring up to my office! That’s a responsibility, right there!


68 posted on 09/07/2012 8:30:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Kartographer

69 posted on 09/07/2012 8:38:36 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1327 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Kartographer
“...most don’t even agree on what they are prepping for...”

The light bulb of truth started with me in 1998. I thought why am I running around grabbing stuff for a coming hurricane when I could have that stored all the time? I went from that thinking to realizing if trucks stopped, I would die and I'm not high on the list for government to save.

After all these years of prepping, constantly changing preps as new products came about, I don't have to depend on anyone to live. The federal government can take a flying leap into chaos and I won't be there. AND NEITHER WILL YOU, my buddy prepper.

70 posted on 09/07/2012 8:39:29 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Lazamataz

Sorry, I didn’t make it clear. I was referring to Homelame Security. No doubt the CDC has some good folks there, in general, I have little trust in their “leadership” or their leadership’s motivation since these positions are typically appointed. I say “theirs” when it should be “ours”.


71 posted on 09/07/2012 8:43:57 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Hardraade

Do share!


72 posted on 09/07/2012 8:44:22 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1327 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Lazamataz
“Aw, comon, Marcella. I’d let you be one of the living ones! Heck, I might even give you the task of culling through the refugees looking for the cutest chicks to bring up to my office! That’s a responsibility, right there!”

When the government fails to get the water/food to you to distribute to these refugees, come see me and I'll keep you alive but not them.

73 posted on 09/07/2012 8:44:50 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Vince Ferrer

They’re talking about 3 day preps. Just long enough for CDC, FEMA, et al to get their act together and move the government teat into your neighborhood.

They’re still suspicious unto hostile of anyone prepping for more than a month of real breakdown, and moreso anyone ready for actual indefinite self-sufficiency - because such people are not relying on the providence of the almighty government. Would-be deities are not kind to heretics.


74 posted on 09/07/2012 8:49:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Lazamataz; Shimmer1

I always suspected you were one of the bad people...


75 posted on 09/07/2012 8:54:02 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1327 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void; Kartographer

Just gave the basics to Kartographer. Feel free to kick this thing between you :).


76 posted on 09/07/2012 8:59:05 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Marcella

Say can I have some of your purple berries?

Yes, I’ve been eating them for six or seven weeks now, haven’t gotten sick once


77 posted on 09/07/2012 9:02:18 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1327 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void; Marcella

YOU FOOL! Those are Obamaberrys! If you are feeling a tingling in your legs its to late! But if not if you stop eating them now you might make it if you start taking the only antidote I know Good old spam!


78 posted on 09/07/2012 9:06:51 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: null and void
“Say can I have some of your purple berries?”

When I was a child, maybe 6-7, I would go into the woods behind our house and eat purple berries. Never occurred to me to think they could be poison. They were small berries, way smaller than a blackberry or such.

I don't know what is safe to eat in the woods but I would eat it rather than be with hungry zombie refugees.

79 posted on 09/07/2012 9:09:34 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: RandallFlagg
Have you seen this?

Miami Zombie Attack Prank!

This guy is lucky he did not get shot.

80 posted on 09/07/2012 9:10:43 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Marcella; Kartographer

Crosby, Stills & Nash, guys.

Gawd I feel old...


81 posted on 09/07/2012 9:10:57 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1327 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Kartographer

“YOU FOOL! Those are Obamaberrys!”

Oh, my God! Are all purple berries Obamaberrys? If they are, I’m not eating them!


82 posted on 09/07/2012 9:14:21 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Lazamataz
FTA: A few of the government's suggestions tracked closely with some of the 33 rules for dealing with zombies popularized in the 2009 movie "Zombieland," which included "always carry a change of underwear" and "when in doubt, know your way out."

Somehow I doubt Rule #2 is in the gummint version?

83 posted on 09/07/2012 9:19:03 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Kartographer

Very good!


84 posted on 09/07/2012 9:20:24 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Hoodat; RandallFlagg

“This guy is lucky he did not get shot.”

You mean like this?

Zombie Land scene where Bill Murray gets shot - Funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmO_7JlYgc


85 posted on 09/07/2012 9:29:42 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lazamataz
Can only say, that personally; trust nothing from an 'Obama' government MO; no matter the innocence of those involved. There are viruses; and there are viral ideologies; as there are toxic substances and also; toxic ideas and energies. We can allow that we need to protect ourselves from not only 'germs' - and 'germ warfare'; but from propaganda. One is fast acting; the other, requires more time; but in the end; we want neither impacting us.

In any event; the metaphors overlap; 'come into play'; if only synchronistically; whereby the methodologies invited to cope; bear resemblance to one another.

IMHO; consciously; or 'unconsciously'; a citizenry IS being shaped; for 'whatever'.

Sort of goes to the 'as above; so below. . .or macro and micro synchronizations as 'life unfolds'.

As of now; there is an 'Armageddon' around every corner - viral; ideological; political; economic; religious - and not just nation-wide; but world-wide. A general assault on one's senses; for sure; and they do pose a 'challenge' to overcome. These all fit, as well a 'zombie' metaphor with their possible scenarios.

86 posted on 09/07/2012 9:36:51 AM PDT by cricket
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To: shibumi

PRICELESS! Thank you. I needed that.


87 posted on 09/07/2012 9:50:11 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Lazamataz; null and void; shibumi
MUST...
HAVE...
FUN...


88 posted on 09/07/2012 10:07:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Kartographer

Why do I think that I should fear Homeland Security Department more than anything else???


89 posted on 09/07/2012 10:31:19 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
It's biblical:

"A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it." NIV Proverbs 22:3
90 posted on 09/07/2012 10:39:50 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: RandallFlagg

Yeah, put me on your ping list - I’ve got to learn as much as possible about MUY’s, uh, errr, zombies - yeah, ZOMBIES, that’s the ticket - as possible. Thanks.


91 posted on 09/07/2012 10:54:40 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Kartographer

Sometimes, late at night, after a cocktail, I ponder if the government knows something they feel they cannot tell the public, but still try to give some a fighting cvhance for survival beyond what the government is quietly preparing for the elites to survive, complete with millions of rounds of ammo for defensive positions in already built bunkers.


92 posted on 09/07/2012 11:03:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
From ZeroHedge:

"One of the primary purposes of a government, any government, is to sustain itself. In its final hours it will do almost anything possible for its self-preservation."

Has not history borne this out? How many times have we seen dying governments lie to, cheat, steal from, incarcerate, force into unwanted wars and even slaughter those who the government was formed to protect in order to continue even one more day.
93 posted on 09/07/2012 11:24:47 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Alex Murphy

>>> “The living dead might outvote the rest of us, and re-elect Obama to a second term!”

Hell, the DEAD dead are already trying!


94 posted on 09/07/2012 11:46:26 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Kartographer

I like this. It energizes the people who never think about preparedness. It makes sense, and I think whoever thought it up should get a big raise.


95 posted on 09/07/2012 1:58:54 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I read an article, it might have been cracked.com, that vampires are what conservatives think liberals are (forever young, lustful but sterile, soul-less, suck the life out of the productive) while zombies are what liberals think conservatives are (mindless hordes that reproduce but little else, seeking to pull down and convert others).


96 posted on 09/07/2012 8:06:57 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Lazamataz
It's a good concept. People need to find things interesting and amusing before they will truly pay attention.

If it makes just a few hundred thousand take steps to prepare for a major problem then it has done very well.

97 posted on 09/07/2012 8:15:28 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Ancesthntr
Yeah, put me on your ping list

You're on. Thanks.
98 posted on 09/08/2012 5:08:53 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
What is the most efficient way to do this? Firearms and a large cache of ammo. Not dehydrated food or a Berkey water filter, but the venerable Boom Stick.

As much as I dislike Max Brooks's liberal leanings, I completely agree with his statement:
"While you are running, shooting, reloading, dodging and shooting, you will be losing water. YOU NEED TO KEEP HYDRATED!"

You should watch this:
Max Brooks's seminar, "How to survive the zombie apocalypse."
And if you liked that, get the audiobook, "World War Z."
99 posted on 09/08/2012 5:24:35 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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