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Obama vs Romney Polls: Obama Tanks Among Women and Independents
policymic.com ^ | Sept 6, 2012 | John Giokaris

Posted on 09/07/2012 7:15:06 AM PDT by 11th_VA

registered voters in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll see Obama favorably overall, down 7 percentage points from his recent peak in April, while 49% rate him unfavorably. He’s numerically underwater in this group for the first time since February.

The decline has occurred entirely among women registered voters – from 57%-39% favorable-unfavorable in April to a numerically negative 46%-50% now. That’s Obama’s lowest score among women voters – a focus of recent political positioning – in ABC/Post polls since he took office.

On top of that, according to CNN’s latest poll, Romney’s lead among independents has jumped in the last week from 3 points to 10 points today among likely voters.

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Check out the new RNC ads at the link as well: 'The Boyfriend' and 'The Breakup'. Both are hilarious and effective, without being 'red meat' ads. They have got to be scoring points !
1 posted on 09/07/2012 7:15:10 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Obama’s convention bounce will turn into a dead cat splat.


2 posted on 09/07/2012 7:16:54 AM PDT by AU72
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To: 11th_VA

This news coupled with a terrible dem. convention and the
terrible jobs report will begin to sink Obama!


3 posted on 09/07/2012 7:19:56 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: AU72

Good ads. Romney should run them on national television.


4 posted on 09/07/2012 7:21:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: AU72

As one Freeper said:” Carp just does not bounce.”


5 posted on 09/07/2012 7:22:14 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

I meant:” Crap just does not bounce.”


6 posted on 09/07/2012 7:22:55 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Carp works too...unless it’s racist.


7 posted on 09/07/2012 7:23:57 AM PDT by henkster (We're the slaves of the phony leaders...)
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To: 11th_VA

A poll of “women” is meaningless, because there are such HUGE differences between the mindset of married women and single women.


8 posted on 09/07/2012 7:25:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: GilGil

I don’t think Carp does either.


9 posted on 09/07/2012 7:25:36 AM PDT by Lacey2
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To: henkster

Both are racist of course


10 posted on 09/07/2012 7:25:56 AM PDT by Jeff Vader (voting for romney, would much rather have Sarah Palin)
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To: 11th_VA

If it is true, I will believe it after the election. 2008 taught me that the stupidity of the American voter can never be underestimated.


11 posted on 09/07/2012 7:26:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: 11th_VA

Ras has Romney only one up today, but Obama still at a dismal 45%. Time for Romney to launch his counter-offensive with an ad blitz that exposes the bogus job numbers and the hyper Fed stimulus.


12 posted on 09/07/2012 7:26:47 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: AU72

Perhaps women are finally becoming offended by the Democrats’ “all-gyno-all-the-time” view of them.


13 posted on 09/07/2012 7:27:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sport
2008 taught me that the stupidity of the American voter can never be underestimated.

2008 was a choice between a cool young black guy and a corpse


14 posted on 09/07/2012 7:28:51 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Remember how some of the protesters were dressed at the RN convention. It was a woman’s body part. That is how Democrats see women. I think that view of women is biting the Democrats now.


15 posted on 09/07/2012 7:34:09 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: AU72

How can he have dropped so much among women? What about the GOP war on women?

Clearly these polls were taken before Sandra Fluke and her speech. I’m sure we’ll see a spike among women now that the convention is over and all of these events register with women voters. (sarcasm)


16 posted on 09/07/2012 7:34:43 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: sport
If it is true, I will believe it after the election. 2008 taught me that the stupidity of the American voter can never be underestimated.

Same here.

The shock was particularly acute, as I had spent too much time reading the posts in the FR echo chamber, and had foolishly projected the views of the smart and well-informed Freepers onto the electorate as a whole.

17 posted on 09/07/2012 7:39:36 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: 11th_VA
Check out the new RNC ads at the link as well: 'The Boyfriend' and 'The Breakup'.

The first one is actually from "Independent Women's Voice". I think it's the best one. Here's a direct link to it (I wish we could embed videos):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8asJMw_T61Q

This is the one from the RNC. The actress looks a lot like "Obama Girl":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoekOZTuTvU

The second video ends with a URL, which redirects to the GOP.com website:

http://www.BreakUpWithObama.com/

18 posted on 09/07/2012 7:40:07 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
2008 was a choice between a cool young black guy and a corpse

I would vote for a real corpse over either Obama or Romney.
19 posted on 09/07/2012 7:40:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Cal from Las Vegas)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“I would vote for a real corpse over either Obama or Romney”

That’s really smart! Great plan.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 7:42:27 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: 11th_VA
One reason might be more women buy groceries than men and the price of groceries is going up every week.

They also see more and more people getting groceries on the govts dime that they themselves can't afford to buy.

Just a few weeks ago a girl I went to HS with, an extreme leftist, made the comment to me that she was fed up with it.

Her mother laughed at her and said it took Obama 3 years to teach her what she couldn't teach her in over 50 years.

21 posted on 09/07/2012 7:43:01 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: GilGil
As one Freeper said:” Carp just does not bounce.”

That's known as a "dead fish bounce".

22 posted on 09/07/2012 7:50:54 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: GilGil
As one Freeper said:” Carp just does not bounce.”

Perhaps that's our problem here in Illinois. The carp bounce real high here.

23 posted on 09/07/2012 7:51:30 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

The world just loves a joker:)


24 posted on 09/07/2012 7:52:59 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: henkster
Carp? Play ball!


25 posted on 09/07/2012 7:54:38 AM PDT by relictele
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If we are going with the old “who do single women or women in bad marriages see as the ‘protector’” theory that some women may vote for, it is interesting.

In the past the GOP, like George W. Bush in 2004 or even Reagan in 1984 may be seen more as a protector in a physical sense. Clinton clearly won on economic security (no matter whether we argue the reality, just the perception is relevant here), and Obama won after the bailouts/collapse as something new during tumult...the new guy. It really didn’t matter what McCain did, he was toast after the collapse.

So where does that leave us? Basically I see Obama as part Carter part Bush 41 in terms of the situation he is presiding over. I put Bush 41 in there because while the economy is bad, the media hasn’t pushed it as it was pushed in the late 70s and there is no way Romney is winning 40+ states.

Romney also isn’t Ronald R, so this is similar to a combo of Clinton 92 and Obama 08. Essentially he is a “light switch” option....he seems safe enough. And after “the new guy” got drunk, forgot to let out the dog and drove the Camry in the ditch, Romney seems like the EXACT sort of person to come help. He reminds me of that dad on Seventh Heaven who seems bland, but when you are in the ditch he gives you a sense of organization and calm in a storm. That is a valuable trait in a President perception wise (and maybe reality).

But the real news is that it is on the ECONOMY. Romney can very well take the economy away from the Democrats....and he can talk intelligently about it...which, to be honest, hasn’t been the case for National GOP in a while.

Romney and Ryan talking about the economy blows away either Bush, Dole or McCain.

So we may be embarking a real shift, where women will see the GOP as the economic protectors.


26 posted on 09/07/2012 8:18:39 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: BlatherNaut

A lot of FReepers knew the election was over when McCain pretty much endorsed Obama.... “We have nothing to fear from Barack Obama. Barack Obama’s a good man....”


27 posted on 09/07/2012 8:23:14 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: justlurking
To All:

View this video...a re-mix of the Eastwood GOP speech and parts of the Superbowl advert

A gritty...Gut Wrenching 2 mins and 39 seconds...

Eastwood Reloaded (for bear)

Enjoy and propagate.

28 posted on 09/07/2012 8:28:02 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: 11th_VA

One of the things I noticed, which I’m surprised that no one commented on - is that the speakers at the DNC convention all had one thing in common; they like to scream and shout at the audience, camera, microphones, etc.

The RNC, on the other hand, was more businesslike with a “Let’s Just Get This Done” attitude.

The Dems launch into their usual histrionics and hysterical estrogen-induced rage at the drop of a dime...

I don’t know about anyone else, but the moment I here someone shouting and screeching at me, the “Listen” switch goes to the OFF position immediately.

They sounded like lunatic fringe freaks. Unhinged.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 8:42:28 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Personally, I think the libs use emotion to try to cover up for lack of substance. When people call in to radio talk shows and start throwing insults around and shouting you know immediately which side they're on (and it's not ours).

I am a married woman and knew BHO was an empty suit in 08 but also knew as that the American Idol Presidential candidate, he would win.
What I don't get is that a lot of the national polls still show BHO with a slight lead. Are they just cooking the numbers? How could that possibly be when there is nothing but bad news for his campaign every day. Did you see Dana Milbanks in the WP today? Oh yeah, the thrill is GONE>

30 posted on 09/07/2012 9:00:03 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: NFHale

DNC Freak Show.


31 posted on 09/07/2012 9:02:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sport

“2008 taught me that the stupidity of the American voter can never be underestimated.”

I concur that Americans are not very learned (they are bright at what they do for a living, but have little interest in the larger world outside of their little worlds), but I also read “desperation” in the 2008 results. If that was the true source, then Obama has no chance; he will be unseated by the same force that he rode in.


32 posted on 09/07/2012 9:41:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: luv2ski

“What I don’t get is that a lot of the national polls still show BHO with a slight lead. Are they just cooking the numbers?”

I have to believe, based on the election results since his coronation in 2008, that these numbers are meaningless. Only time will tell, but I think the media can’t just admit he is done; they have to hype everything to draw viewers (in addition to influencing people), and we’re just watching theater at this point. Even before the mid-terms, the losses in NJ, MA, and VA ust ONE YEAR after he carried all three were an indication of his unpopularity; the mid-term “shellacking” (as he put it) confirmed it for me.


33 posted on 09/07/2012 9:45:32 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: luv2ski

Polls can be made to say one thing or the other. The only poll that matters is on Election Day, so I just don’t place too much stock in them.

Anyone who was paying attention in 08 and did even a small amount of research knew who this assclown was.

But as usual, the majority of people took him at face value, took what the media said at face value, and went with it.

The country got hood-winked. And the Dems got their little wet dream brought into reality...


34 posted on 09/07/2012 9:48:26 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“...DNC Freak Show....”

To quote David Byrne: “Same as it ever was...same as it ever was....same as it ever was...”


35 posted on 09/07/2012 9:49:11 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes, I agree with you which is part of why I am scratching my head over it now. I know the polls are oversampling Democrats and that they seek to make news rather than just reflect it but generally as we get close to elections they are fairly accurate. In 2010, they were predicting a huge gain for the Good Guys and we got it.
I would just feel a lot more confident if we were up by 10. I drive by people with BHO stickers on their cars and just look at them in amazement. Seriously? Not only are you VOTING for him again but you have a new sticker on your car to trumpet it? Yikes.


36 posted on 09/07/2012 10:55:10 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: NFHale

” To quote David Byrne: “Same as it ever was...same as it ever was....same as it ever was...””

Obama: “ This is not my beautiful house” (rented)

” This is not my beautiful wife” (No $heet : )


37 posted on 09/07/2012 11:09:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: luv2ski
What I don't get is that a lot of the national polls still show BHO with a slight lead. How could that possibly be [?]

Because the alternative is a billionaire felon, who belongs to a cult, won't pay his taxes or his employee's health care, ties puppies to the roof of his car, and is obviously a racist (he's white).
Also, folks are always reluctant to admit that they made a very stupid, ill-advised mistake (i.e., voting for BO in 2008).
It'll get better as folks wake up to reality.

38 posted on 09/07/2012 12:15:01 PM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: luv2ski

Living here in NJ, I’m pleasantly surprised to see almost NO Obama bumper stickers (there were a lot in 2008); NJ has apparently been written off by many on this site, but I’m telling you things are really bad here, and it might be sufficient to cost Obama the state. The election of Chris Christie one year after Obama won NJ was a real indicator of how bad things had become in NJ; our property taxes, already among the highest in the nation, were increasing so much annually that many companies and Americans were fleeing the state. Property values will probably recover last here, since even the stabilized taxes are high for people earning “new normal” wages; businesses are closing down, and the only growth areas are tattoo parlors, laundromats, and check cashing places. Even tenured teachers were being laid off if they were too close to the bottom in the “last in, first out” environment; those public workers let go know there will not be hiring here for years to come.

Again, just hoping it should be enough...


39 posted on 09/07/2012 1:07:31 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: NFHale
Democrat politicians always shout. They like to pretend they are embattled fighters for the poor and downtrodden, out on the barricades, bringing hope to the masses. That is how they see themselves--really--just listen to the way they are always "fighting" for something (usually "working families" or some other imaginary concoction of victims), even when they are really just thieves in the night.

Then all the six-figure union thugs in the audience can growl back and pretend they have a legitimate grievance somewhere that needs fixing.

40 posted on 09/07/2012 1:35:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 11th_VA

Nice ads :)


41 posted on 09/07/2012 1:42:21 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I see them as “The Psychopath Party”.

Mentally unbalanced, unstable, sociopathic, and potentially dangerous.


42 posted on 09/07/2012 6:47:07 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 11th_VA

Placemark.


43 posted on 09/07/2012 8:49:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: luv2ski

Always keep in mind that a close race is in the
medias interest, it’s all about ratings.


44 posted on 09/08/2012 5:39:06 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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