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Michael Moore: No Obama Didn't Save Detroit
NewsBusters ^ | SEPTEMBER 7, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 09/07/2012 10:02:02 AM PDT by RobinMasters

For several years the left and their media minions have claimed that by bailing out Chrysler and General Motors, President Obama saved Detroit.

On Friday, the perilously liberal schlockumentarian Michael Moore debunked this in an article at the Huffington Post astonishingly saying, "No, he didn't."

"Last week, I said on the HuffPost Live webcast that we had all better start practicing how to say 'President Romney' because, living in Michigan, I can tell you that there's trouble here on the two peninsulas and it's not just because Romney is a native son or that we like to watch kids from Cranbrook chase down gay kids and chop their hair off," Moore wrote. "One recent poll here showed Romney leading Obama by four points! How can that be? Didn't Obama save Detroit?"

Moore answered his own question, "No, he didn't. He saved General Motors and Chrysler."

"'Detroit' (and Flint and Pontiac and Saginaw)," continued Moore, "are not defined by the global corporations who suck our towns dry and then split town to make more money elsewhere (except, of course, they continued to design and built crap cars, so eventually they didn't make the money at all). These cities in Michigan are about the people who live here, and in the process of 'saving Detroit,' Mr. Obama had to fire thousands of these people, and reduce the benefits and pensions of those who were left."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: chinamotors; deindustrializeusa; mexicojobs; michigan

1 posted on 09/07/2012 10:02:04 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

I’ve said on other threads that there are very few demographics that initially supported Obama that are really better off now. Government workers (especially public school teachers) fortunate enough to survive the waves of layoffs are one; can’t think of any others right now.


2 posted on 09/07/2012 10:05:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: RobinMasters

Never thought there would be a day that I agreed with him on something..... I feel bad now.


3 posted on 09/07/2012 10:06:13 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: RobinMasters

Who is this Michael Moore person and why should I (or anyone else for that matter) care what his opinion is?


4 posted on 09/07/2012 10:07:41 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: kearnyirish2
I’ve said on other threads that there are very few demographics that initially supported Obama that are really better off now.

Manufacturers of guns and ammo.

Also a good friend of mine who provides services to banks to help them stay in compliance with CRA and HMDA is doing well.
5 posted on 09/07/2012 10:07:58 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: RobinMasters

The very day (Tuesday September 4, 2012 to be exact) Ted Strickland gave his speech that Romney, as Santa, would outsource the elves, GM announced it would be ‘investing’ $500M in a new plant....in MEXICO!

Gov’t Motors Building $500M Plant ... In Mexico
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/govt-motors-building-500m-plant-in-mexico/blog-398517/


6 posted on 09/07/2012 10:10:24 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: RobinMasters
I was thinking when I read this Header you should have included the words ---"This is NOT a Vanity Post"

So I read on, and noted that Comrade Moore's statement seems to Jive with the one Clint Eastwood has been making about the lefties being worried about the economy too.

Who would have known????

7 posted on 09/07/2012 10:13:37 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: RobinMasters
Hey Micheal, I hear General Motors China is hiring!

But they are not hiring United AutoWorkers.

8 posted on 09/07/2012 10:16:55 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: RobinMasters

As predicted, the Left is starting to turn on Barry because he wasn’t Socialist enough.


9 posted on 09/07/2012 10:17:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Dr. Sivana

I was speaking specifically about initial supporters of Obama; I’m sure that industry knew he has no use for armed citizens.

As far as other demographics that are doing well in general, I’m sure anyone manufacturing/selling things to fix something (to avoid replacing it) are doing well: hardware stores, the makers of “Shoe-Goo” and such. Look at what sells well in the Third World - those will be our hot commodities soon.


10 posted on 09/07/2012 10:17:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: RobinMasters; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Moore answered his own question, “No, he didn't. He saved General Motors and Chrysler.”
“’Detroit’ (and Flint and Pontiac and Saginaw),” continued Moore, “are not defined by the global corporations who suck our towns dry and then split town to make more money elsewhere (except, of course, they continued to design and built crap cars, so eventually they didn't make the money at all). These cities in Michigan are about the people who live here, and in the process of ‘saving Detroit,’ Mr. Obama had to fire thousands of these people, and reduce the benefits and pensions of those who were left.

Moore better watch it. More talk like this and he will be cast aside like Cindy Sheenan was after she challenged Pelosi. Security at MSNBC was given a picture of Sheenan so they could stop her if she tried to get in again with her pass.

11 posted on 09/07/2012 10:19:46 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: RobinMasters

For some strange reason, the left is suddenly ignoring Moore.


12 posted on 09/07/2012 10:21:34 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: RobinMasters

Only in America would you reelect people who think we walked on Mars,that Guam would tip over if we put more troops on the island,and we have more than 57 states, to name just a few and lets not forget that Obama can’t pronounce corpsman. I thought he was supposed to be so intelligent.


13 posted on 09/07/2012 10:25:52 AM PDT by onthegulf
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To: kearnyirish2

I didn’t read carefully. My apologies.


14 posted on 09/07/2012 10:25:58 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: V_TWIN
Who is this Michael Moore person and why should I (or anyone else for that matter) care what his opinion is?

While his thinking doesn't influence us, it sure does influence 18-30yo democrats. Not to give him too much credit, but I think his efforts through the Bush years had an impact on their voting in 2008. If he is sending any sort of signal that is anti-Obama, and not out campaigning heavy for him like he did in 2008, this is great news.

15 posted on 09/07/2012 10:34:00 AM PDT by polstar123
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To: Buckeye McFrog

yep.. Michael Moore is to the left of the President. He doesn’t like any large corporation, except for his of course... I would imagine he has incorporated and has employees...

oh yeah... I forgot, it’s ok if HE makes money.


16 posted on 09/07/2012 10:36:50 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: V_TWIN
Who is this Michael Moore person and why should I (or anyone else for that matter) care what his opinion is?

The real question is: "Who are they talking about and what have they done with Michael Moore?"

Michael Moore is a fat extreme left wing propaganda producer. He's produced propaganda claiming healthcare is better in Cuba than in America and various other ridiculous claims.

For him to be bashing Obama, doesn't bode well for the One.

17 posted on 09/07/2012 10:41:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I wonder if MooseChelle tried to get fatboy on her healthy eating program, LOL.


18 posted on 09/07/2012 10:44:18 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: RobinMasters
0blahblah didn't do much for Chicago either...

Obama's "community organizing" left Chicago neighborhoods in ruins.

(long very detailed article in the liberal Boston Globe)

Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy

"About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition."


19 posted on 09/07/2012 10:49:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: sickoflibs

City of Detroit (90% black) is continuously being ‘saved’ by government stealing from taxpaying white Americans to dole out to parasites.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 10:50:23 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: V_TWIN
Who is this Michael Moore person and why should I (or anyone else for that matter) care what his opinion is?

Wasn't he in the "X-Men Origins" movie?


21 posted on 09/07/2012 10:52:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: griswold3
The "Big Three" auto makers have long been global multi-national companies.
Why should the American taxpayer subsidize any of them?

(rhetorical question not directed at you, griswold3)

22 posted on 09/07/2012 10:54:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Quick Shot
Never thought there would be a day that I agreed with him on something..... I feel bad now.

It's only because Moore hates capitalism (except when he makes his money) more than he loves liberalism.

23 posted on 09/07/2012 10:55:56 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: kevkrom

Yep, Obama isn’t far enough to the left even for Moore.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 10:57:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Quick Shot

Little Mikey is growin up!


25 posted on 09/07/2012 10:58:47 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: RobinMasters
An amazing closing of the circle. Roger Moore first became famous with his documentary Roger and Me, lamenting the fall of Flint (and by extension Detroit) MI. For him to put the Obama on the wrong side of that circle is not a good sign for BHO.
26 posted on 09/07/2012 11:00:02 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2

Wasn’t Roger Moore the British actor?

Michael (lard @ss) Moore of Michigan is the one who did Roger & Me.


27 posted on 09/07/2012 11:01:31 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: RobinMasters

Damn you Obama! You made me have to agree with Michael Moore. Now I feel dirty.


28 posted on 09/07/2012 11:05:24 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: ctdonath2

His most honest film was Live and Let Lie.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 11:24:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: RobinMasters

Hey 0bama, you didn't build save that!

30 posted on 09/07/2012 11:27:43 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: RobinMasters

I have never read so much garbage in one sitting! Good grief! This Moore fella is really one sick pup. For him to be getting ‘nervous’ about Michigan, tells me that there’s a swelling undercurrent of ‘cleansing’ that’s going to drag all of this filth away from their positions of power and influence, come November 6th.


31 posted on 09/07/2012 11:34:33 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: sickoflibs

I hadn’t heard that - do you have a reference for that? I’d love to rub their noses with it ;-)


32 posted on 09/07/2012 11:43:54 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: RobinMasters

he saved GM and Chrysler??

GM is near bankruptcy and moving factories to Mexico and China and Chrysler is now owned by FIAT....


33 posted on 09/07/2012 12:32:44 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rockrr
RE :”I hadn’t heard that - do you have a reference for that? I’d love to rub their noses with it ;-)

I was embellishing the story for fun but her invitations to MSNBC and others stopped flowing once she challenged Pelosi in her primary. I remember Rush joking about it. Looks like she was never invited back.

Cindy Sheehan qualifies to run for Pelosi's seat Says speaker's 'failed to hold George Bush and Dick Cheney accountable'(Tucker Carlson segment on MSNBC 2008)

MSNBC fired Ugar Cyenk and replaced him with Al Sharpton for being critical of Obama from the left. Ugar is on a yotube video talking about it.

34 posted on 09/07/2012 12:33:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Dr. Sivana

Think nothing of it.

I for one am happy to see the gun manufacturers doing well; it is an indication of so much more...


35 posted on 09/07/2012 1:01:05 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: iopscusa

“City of Detroit (90% black) is continuously being ‘saved’ by government stealing from taxpaying white Americans to dole out to parasites.”

I thought Detroit was the poster child for the follow-up to “If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you will always have the support of Paul”, which I guess is “If you rob Peter to pay Paul, it gets harder & harder to find Peter”.

Whites have abandoned most cities to blacks here in NJ, and now illegal aliens are starting to fill them (displacing the blacks in the process - politically, economically, demographically). The state has run out of white people’s money to pour into the cities, resulting in Newark laying off hundreds of cops and Camden (one of the country’s most dangerous cities) laying off all of them.


36 posted on 09/07/2012 1:34:04 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sickoflibs.


37 posted on 09/08/2012 6:03:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GeronL

He saved the green and renewable energy movement by radically increasing the automotive industry’s...scratch that...the government’s CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards which are to be met by 2025 at 54.5 MPG.

However, look at what the automotive companies are selling and it’s mostly full-size pickups and SUV’s.

Where’s your Chevy Volt now, Obama? Wherever you thought WE were supposed to be going with it isn’t where the vast majority of car buyers are going.

Automotive engine-fuel technology is not broken and you couldn’t fix it even if it was.


38 posted on 09/09/2012 5:50:11 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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