Skip to comments.O'Reilly 'Stunned' At Caroline Kennedy's 'Catholic Woman' Abortion Remarks
Posted on 09/07/2012 1:01:37 PM PDT by NYer
The O’Reilly Factor began last night by broadcasting the convention speech of Caroline Kennedy, who came out and declared “As a Catholic woman,” she supports Obama because “Now isn’t the time to roll back the rights we were winning when my father was president.” As if Roe vs. Wade was decided in 1963?
O’Reilly was blunt. “I have to tell you, I am stunned. I am stunned right now at what she just said as a Catholic woman and then she went on to object to 40 states implementing restrictions on abortion like a 24-hour waiting period.” O’Reilly said it “made my head snap back” when she proclaimed:
KENNEDY: His commitment to women is about even more than economic rights. It's about health care, reproductive rights and our ability to make our own decisions about ourselves, our families, and our future. When it comes to what's best for women, there is only one candidate in this race who is on our side, Barack Obama.
As a Catholic woman, I take reproductive health seriously. And today it is under attack. This year alone, more than a dozen states have passed more than 40 restrictions on women's access to reproductive health care. That's not the kind of future I want for my daughters or your daughters. Now isn't the time to roll back the rights we were winning when my father was president. Now is the time to move this country forward.
O’Reilly and Karl Rove discussed the speech further, and Rove found it to be a direct attack on the Catholic church:
O’REILLY: She's evoking her Catholic faith, which clearly condemns abortion, and using that as some kind of spring board into criticizing the restrictions on abortion that many states have passed. And the restrictions aren't you can't have one. It's wait a couple of days and think it over.
So maybe I'm wrong on this, but that made my head snap back. And here to help us analyze Fox News analyst Karl Rove who joins us from Richmond, Virginia. Did you pick that up when she said that? I mean, I'm -- I'm still flabbergasted.
KARL ROVE: Yes. Well, I think it was a direct response -- I mean a direct attack on the church. I mean it's going out of her way to say I disagree with the values of my church.
And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion. What we're talking about is the administration's effort to expand the realm of choice by, for example, requiring churches to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees regardless of the fact that it violates the deeply most-held tenets of that faith.
We have an attack on religious liberty that's masquerading as an expansion of you know, of choice. And you know, Miss Kennedy tonight sort of threw herself on the side of those who -- who would advocate such an attack on religious liberty.
O'REILLY: But not only that, I mean she cited her Catholicism when she didn't have to. This is what -- I don't object to her opinion.
O'REILLY: She has her opinion and she wants unfettered abortion, that's her opinion. Supreme Court has ruled abortion is legal in the United States. Nobody is denying anybody's rights to anything. But she -- that's a gratuitous comment. She didn't have to inject that she's a Catholic woman and then go and say she wants no restrictions on abortion. She opposes that.
That's -- that's offensive, I believe and I'm -- I'm frankly shocked that -- that she would do that. I don't know whether she is -- wants to attack her own faith or not -- I'm not -- I'd like to ask her about it. But I'm just taken aback.
ROVE: Well, are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi does it routinely.
O'REILLY: Yes I am. I'm sure -- Karl -- Karl --
ROVE: Nancy Pelosi speaking as the Speaker of the House of Representatives --
O'REILLY: Wait, wait. Wait.
ROVE: And now the former speaker, assuming that she can step in and declare what the theology of the Catholic church is.
O'REILLY: Karl, let me be clear on this. Nancy Pelosi all right, is a political animal. All right? Whatever she says doesn't surprise me.
This woman comes out under the heading of the Kennedy name and the Kennedy legacy and directly besmirches her church. I mean that's stunning.
ROVE: Yes well look, she -- she may not be a politician -- she may not be a politician in the way that Nancy Pelosi is, but she comes from a very political family. Her presence there tonight was on behalf of that family. She's been a political figure. She was a key endorsement for Barack Obama in 2008....
It's gratuitous when people of any faith go out of their way to basically say I'm a -- I'm a -- I'm a Catholic and I'm telling you that I disagree deeply with the Catholic Church's opinions and I'm going to do so in a political sphere in order to make it easier for people who share my particular faith to you know disregard the teachings of our church.
There are a couple of douchebags for you.
I saw an interview with some guy with an organization of Catholics for Obama on a Catholic station last night. The interviewer asked how as a Catholic he could support a party and president who are so radically pro abortion. And certainly killing a baby that somehow survives an abortion can only be characterized as radical.
They guy’s only response was that Romney would cut medicare and that will lead to more abortions and his Catholic conscience would not let him vote for someone who would do that. And he repeated that response to every question.
What Catholic parish does Caroline Kennedy belong to? When was the last time she was seen at Mass? After all, she is a Catholic woman.
Why should he be stunned? There is no discernible discipline over the issue in the RC Church. There needs to be.
Why doesn’t her Bishop have the guts to excommunicate this toxic witch?
How does cutting funding for senior citizen healthcare lead to more abortions?
That guy must have been dumber than a box of rocks. Medicare only applies to those over 65, and I don't know many women over 65 that are getting pregnant and having abortions...
Caroline Kennedy reminds me of my Catholic senator from Louisiana, Senator Mary Landrieu. Landrieu generates her smoke and mirrors by saying that as a Catholic she is personally opposed to abortion, but she still believes that a woman should have the right to choose. That is like saying that you are opposed to the consumption of alcohol and then attending the next weekly meeting of AA and offering to buy everyone in attendance a round of drinks at the local bar.
Both of these women are Catholic for so long as it doesn’t inconvenience them.
Caroline was so flat I couldn’t decide if it was the Xanax, the Ambien, or the booze talking, or maybe all three.
That's TERRIBLE! Why would anyone want to restrict women's access to "reproductive healthcare"?
what? she just means "abortion"? Oh... nevermind.
The Priest/Bishop/Cardinal in that order, of EVERY one of these ‘Catholics’ that go on media and do this crap, need to smack them down and excom them. The Pope has the responsibility to defend and enforce the tenets of the faith. Period.
ALL OF THEM are ignoring their sworn duty.
So you're admitting your own party's platform isn't "serious," eh, KKKarl?
“As a Catholic woman, I take reproductive health seriously.”
I can’t fathom what abortion has to do with “reproductive health”.
“She’s excommunicated herself”
so I don’t have to show any “guts” to do it in a confrontational way.
A Kennedy saying such things? I am not shocked in the least. O’Reilly must be stupid.
I can’t speculate on that, but she was constantly stepping on her own lines, and I take this to mean she’s not used to anyone like the rabble in the crowd, having the audacity to interrupt while she’s speaking.
(That said, I still think she’s kinda hot - remnants of a teen crush on her ;-))
This filthy scion of a besotted family helped bring the creature in the White House into his own in 2008. Now she has risen from the background to try again.
I hope she goes back to the “Kennedy Compound’, takes all her Kennedy Klan with her, and the entire festering sore of them drift out to sea and maybe wind up in Sweden or Greece, where they really belong.
John Kennedy may have been a Democrat with personal flaws, but he was a patriotic American, and a Catholic, and she should be thankful he and Jackie didn’t believe in abortions to eliminate “inconvenient” human lives.
She is insane. Leftists always use lies for their agenda
The Priest/Bishop/Cardinal in that order,
YES ! And of Pelosi, and all the others.
when DWS made a false claim, about the Israeli Ambassador,
he came out publicly, within 24 hours,
and basically called her a liar.
recently, the Pope DID say, we need to speak the truth always. So why don’t the Bishops and Cardinals speak up,
at least on clear Catholic doctrine being misrepresented???
Pray for him ... no, seriously ... please, pray for him. He is a victim of the social teaching done by radical 'progressivist' nuns like,
Sister Simone Campbell
who was invited to speak at the DNC.
Well she is a Kennedy and that’s their cocktail of preference!
They guys only response was that Romney would cut medicare and that will lead to more abortions and his Catholic conscience would not let him vote for someone who would do that. And he repeated that response to every question. "
I think that was the same interview I saw -- it was Raymond Arroyo on EWTN interviewing a professor (I believe) with a name that looked something like "Professor Schmuck".
Arroyo shredded the guy pretty good I thought.
I was raised RC and left/lapsed when I figured out that the leadership does not believe in their own teachings. If they ever return to following their own faith, I’ll be back. Until then, God and I have a more ‘personal’ relationship.
A faith that does this crap is not worth following. And I know that sounds harsh, but I defy anyone to tell me why a parishoner should follow or listen to men who ignore their own ‘rules’.
Caroline is slightly nuts.
I can't answer that, but I can tell you this.
She's lived in New York City since the 70s. She didn't register to vote until she was 31 (in 1988). She only voted two or three times in the following 20 years.
If that's how she treated her actual religion - Democratic politics - I highly doubt she goes to Mass unless one of her relatives accidentally or deliberately kills himself or gets remarried.
That is the only rational argument I have heard so far for leaving the Church. I disagree with it, but it’s rational.
Picking and choosing who will live and who will die (infanticide) is morally reprehensible no matter what religion anyone calls themself. She has children who weren't aborted.
All I can say is this. If the leadership of any church chooses to willfully ignore their own teachings, then they themselves either do not believe them or are putting something else before God. There is no other way around that.
If a person sits in a pew being led by men who do not believe what they say or subordinate the word of God to political expedience, they are no closer to following the right path than if they wing it and go their own way.
I do not see how it can be any other way. Note that I Believe in the teachings of RC. I do NOT believe in the men teaching it and feel that they have no business trying to when they ignore it when convenient/profitable.
Best comment: “The Kennedy’s are a good Catholic family. You know, like the Borgia’s.”
I’m stunned why people even listen to O.R and Hannity.
Catholics need to tell the phony Catholics you can’t be a Dem and Catholic and tell them a lot
I told my MIL two eyars ago and she was a life long Dem voter but no more
As a catholic i say this is your last chance to choose faith or party. you absolutely can not support abortion or homosexuality and be a christian. Youu can call yourself whatever you want but you are NOT christian.
Yes that was it.
She took an aborted swing at politics recently but it quickly became apparent that she didn’t inherit the Kennedy politics gene so the democrats dumped her like a hot potato.
billy the o’bloviator may be dumber than obama and biden combined.
This has to be done. This “Everyone gets a participation trophy” mentality has to be smacked down. Words mean things. Christians do not support OR EMPOWER things contrary to the Bible.
Everyone wants their cake and to eat it to. Well their cake is left out in the rain on this one. No splitting the baby. One follows the faith or one does not. And those that CHOOSE not to can deal with it.
The Kennedys have known for more than eighty years that they could get away with flipping the bird to the Church anytime they wanted, so long as they kept up with the big contributions.
The ONLY reason she’s “not a politician” is because she showed herself to be dumber than a box of rocks when former NY Gov Paterson was considering appointing her to succeed Hillary in the Senate. So we know she’s a) a politician; b) dumber than a box of rocks; and, c) not a faithful Catholic. Otherwise, she’s just fine, your normal Democrat royalty.
What amazes me about Hannity is how often he throws in “ya know” at the end of a sentence. Kinda shocking to hear in an “A” list talker. Also he’s about 1/2 as bright as just about any of the talkers. I really don’t know how he got so big.
How many annulments has the church doled out to the clan over the years?
I said this before on Kennedy threads, but I’m a huge Sci/Fi and Horror fan. You would be amazed at how many books with an “evil/twisted/powerful” family in the plotline mirror the real-world activities of the Kennedys.
I am totally serious. Speaks volumes IMO.
“.. she should be thankful he and Jackie didnt believe in abortions to eliminate inconvenient human lives.”
Funny you should mention. As I recall Jacqueline Kennedy had trouble in her pregnancies, and lost a child shortly after birth. With loss such as that in her immediate family, one would think/hope that Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg would be more empathetic to life and less prone toward condoning life’s destruction.
I have no idea how he got where he is either.
I remember when don’t ask was about to be thrown out and I and other vets called his show to state how the surve was bogus and how having openly serving homosexuals and cross dressers will ruin the military and it has with rape on men last year reaching 19,000.
He would not take any calls regarding this issue however one vet lied to the screener and as soon as he got on to Hannity he got cut off as soon as he mentioned don’t ask.
Hannity never ever talks about conservative social issues, he refuses to mention the homostapo and once on his show he did state to his liberal als that he does not care who marries who.
I turned him off and never have watched or listened to him again.
He takes his talking points off Rush it seems and when Beck was on breaking stories about ACORN and planned parents hood and Soros Hannity tried to take the credit.
Honestly why anyone watches him is beyond me.
EXACTLY! She cannot speak or debate. Because of the circumstances that she and her family went through she is given a pass on many levels, and rightfully so. Let her live her life already. BUT, when she tries to preach and convince people to vote for this socialist/communist who wants to harm this country ........ that is where the gloves come off.
Go away, Caroline....you like to say, "My father this and my father that.....", well you didn't know him on an adult level. He was a democrat, and a womanizer, but he was a patriot and he would not have liked or trusted Obama one bit.
Teddy was a Kennedy too. Didn’t OReilly listen to the anti Catholic crud coming out of his mouth? Why should Caroline be any different? Being a Kennedy is a moral sickness.
Yep, she put her name out for appointement to Hillary's vacant NY senate seat but she was deep-sixed shortly after a media political interview where she used the term "you know" exactly 168 times in the less-than-half-hour session.
Real brainiac, you know......