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Yangtze River Turns Red and Turns Up a Mystery
ABC News/Yahoo ^ | 9-7-12 | Katie Kindelan

Posted on 09/07/2012 2:31:16 PM PDT by kingattax

For a river known as the "golden watercourse," red is a strange color to see.

Yet that's the shade turning up in the Yangtze River and officials have no idea why.

The red began appearing in the Yangtze, the longest and largest river in China and the third longest river in the world, yesterday near the city of Chongquing, where the Yangtze connects to the Jialin River.

The Yangtze, called "golden" because of the heavy rainfall it receives year-round, runs through Chongqing, Southwest China's largest industrial and commercial center, also known as the "mountain city" because of the hills and peaks upon which its many buildings and factories stand.

The red color stopped some residents in their tracks. They put water from the river in bottles to save it. Fishermen and other workers who rely on the river for income kept going about their business, according to the UK's Daily Mail.

While the river's red coloring was most pronounced near Chongqing it was also reported at several other points. Officials are reportedly investigating the cause.

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no big deal. the river is after all in "Red" China
1 posted on 09/07/2012 2:31:19 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Obvious satire...


2 posted on 09/07/2012 2:33:22 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: kingattax

This could be Hugh.

He could be rusting.


3 posted on 09/07/2012 2:34:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: kingattax

Alabama fans.


4 posted on 09/07/2012 2:35:57 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: kingattax

Revelation 16:4 NIV
The third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs of water, and they became blood.


5 posted on 09/07/2012 2:36:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: kingattax

Red Tide - bacteria?


6 posted on 09/07/2012 2:38:27 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Red Badger

“Chongqing, Southwest China’s largest industrial and commercial center”

probably industrial pollution


7 posted on 09/07/2012 2:38:34 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: F15Eagle

And/or pollutant spillage on some massive scale


8 posted on 09/07/2012 2:41:55 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: kingattax

The stink of dead fish will not be a new odor to the Chinese, so the millions of fish that will be killed by this pollution probably will not cause any changes along the river. Eventually, the billions of Chinese will end up ‘disposing of the fish kill’. One could hope in cans of fish for North Korean armies.


9 posted on 09/07/2012 2:42:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: kingattax

Just a small leak of red food coloring number 40.


10 posted on 09/07/2012 2:42:50 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: kingattax
Here's a Pic...

Scary looking to say the least.....

11 posted on 09/07/2012 2:45:06 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: kingattax

12 posted on 09/07/2012 2:46:43 PM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: kingattax

Any red rainfall?


13 posted on 09/07/2012 2:47:54 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Red Badger

I thought I read that. The BP oil spill looked something like it too. I’m sure it’s just coincidence.


14 posted on 09/07/2012 2:48:29 PM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: thingumbob
All I need is a grilled cheese sandwich and a large spoon!

Yum.

15 posted on 09/07/2012 2:48:29 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: andyk

Satire? Based on what exactly? China’s pollution problem is notorious. It is been said that up to 1/3 of all rivers, lakes, and fresh water sources in China are not even fit for industrial use. That’s pretty bad.


16 posted on 09/07/2012 2:49:53 PM PDT by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: kingattax

Are there any red algae types? China has a very bad record with industrial pollution, even in their most important waterways. I’d bet on a petchem plant that’s discharging waste illegally.


17 posted on 09/07/2012 2:49:58 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: kingattax

Maybe they’ve taken a page out of Saddam’s book and are putting dissidents through shredders, just on a Chinese scale. It could be easier to just chum the river than bulldoze for mass graves.


18 posted on 09/07/2012 2:52:05 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

19 posted on 09/07/2012 2:53:20 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I wonder how long before the Chinese start justifying eating three eyed fish as some sort of delicacy.....

If this is polution the Chinese government just might have figured out a way to keep the population in check...(sarcasm....I think? but who knows with the communists)

20 posted on 09/07/2012 2:54:39 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Hardraade

———Any red rainfall?——

In the picture a second river is merging with the red flow. The merging water is not red. Had rainfall been the source of the color, both would be red


21 posted on 09/07/2012 2:55:04 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: kingattax

The Chicom answer to the Chicago dying the river green on St. Patrick’s day.


22 posted on 09/07/2012 3:00:04 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: bert
not necessarily, the Yangtze flows in from the north east where the Jialing from the north and west...
23 posted on 09/07/2012 3:04:43 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: kingattax

I thought the Red River was the border between Texas and Oklahoma.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 3:05:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: kingattax
This is apparently old news in new bottles. From 2006:

The Yangtze River and Pearl River estuaries have been listed as newly registered "dead zones," according to a study released by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP).

Dead zones, or low oxygenated areas in the world's seas and oceans, are places where nutrients from fertilizer runoff, sewage, animal waste and the burning of fossil fuels trigger algae blooms.

The algae blooms need oxygen and remove it from water, endangering other marine life.

The number and size of deoxygenated areas has risen each decade since the 1970s. Experts warn that these areas are fast becoming major threats to fish stocks, and to people who depend upon fisheries for food and livelihoods.

The major pollutants affecting seawater off China were inorganic nitrogen and active phosphate in 2005, according to a report on pollution of the marine environment released this week by the State Environmental Protection Administration (SEPA).

The report said 500,000 tons of ammonia nitrogen and 30,000 tons of phosphate from land-based activities floated into the sea last year.

Eighty-two "red tides" one type of algal bloom occurred in China's seas in 2005, down 15 per cent from the previous year, according to the UNEP report.


25 posted on 09/07/2012 3:12:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: kingattax
The Yangtze, called "golden" because of the heavy rainfall it receives year-round

With a billion people and poor sanitation, no wonder it's golden. It's only red after the purges.

26 posted on 09/07/2012 3:13:24 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: CondorFlight
“Chongqing, Southwest China’s largest industrial and commercial center”

probably industrial pollution

Yes. I was thinking pet food and pet treat companies dumping anti freeze sweeteners etc., into there.

27 posted on 09/07/2012 3:18:46 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: kingattax

Come to think of it, the article I cited was about the river delta near Shanghai, whereas this one is about Chungking, which is far inland. I’d guess that there’s been a bit of a drought, and the Three Gorges Dam isn’t helping matters. Red tide is said to be a problem in slow-moving waters.


28 posted on 09/07/2012 3:21:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Ronin
Are there any red algae types? China has a very bad record with industrial pollution, even in their most important waterways. I’d bet on a petchem plant that’s discharging waste illegally.

Well remember during the Olympics they had to rake out all the out of control vegetation so the canoes/rowers could race. Sounds like another chemical dump to me. Watch for results later!
29 posted on 09/07/2012 3:25:12 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Guilty but not prosecuted? Sounds like a liberal to me.)
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To: F15Eagle

Red Tide is actually a red algae....sometimes causing Shellfish poisoning.


30 posted on 09/07/2012 3:26:14 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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Re: Yangtze River Turns Red and Turns Up a Mystery

Gadzooks! Maybe China is one of those extra states in Obama's 57... and it appears they are trending Romney-Ryan!

Mr. Lamarr? Mr. Lamarr, all them Chinks of ours we bought for the railroad... they's a voting for Romney!

It is to be expected, Taggart, after we let him be Sheriff... he had to reach his true level of incompetence under the Peter Principle!

31 posted on 09/07/2012 3:29:12 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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Now that I’ve looked a Google map, the scary part is that Chungking is upstream of the Three Gorges Dam. I can’t imagine how low the Yangtze’s water level must be for red tide to be a problem upstream of the dam. Ultimately, the Chinese will have to limit the amounts used to irrigate crops, meaning shut down a big chunk of agriculture that taps the Yangtze, until the drought is over. I am beginning to understand why grain prices are near record highs. This three-year Chinese drought can’t be helping matters. (The ethanol mandate isn’t helping, of course).


32 posted on 09/07/2012 3:29:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: kingattax

The government knows very well where the pollutant came from. They are just playing dumb.


33 posted on 09/07/2012 3:30:04 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: kingattax

This will be interesting to see what the “Official” answer is.

Since I am guessing from pictures only, I would say it looks like a industrial Chem Spill. But I don’t see or have read of any fish kills associated with this red colorization. So the next guess is that of an erosion of a soil layer that contains a lot of red pigment. Especially since the article emphasizes that this is a mountain city.


34 posted on 09/07/2012 3:31:28 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: tenger
It is been said that up to 1/3 of all rivers, lakes, and fresh water sources in China are not even fit for industrial use.

And yet people try to survive on the fish they catch from these cesspools.........

35 posted on 09/07/2012 3:32:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Texas Songwriter

The Chinese are thinning the herd. All the people that will eat whatever is taken out of there over the next few weeks will eventually succumb to something that no doubt will be blamed on George Bush and Mitt Romney.


36 posted on 09/07/2012 3:33:12 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: tenger

I wish it was satire. But, it’s not. We’ll continue to sell our debt to them, buy their products, allow the EPA and ‘free trade’ to put us at a competitive disadvantage, and kowtow to their domination of the seas. I don’t use sarcasm tags.


37 posted on 09/07/2012 3:38:41 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: kingattax

a tribute to Bear Bryant?


38 posted on 09/07/2012 3:46:34 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: kingattax

On one of my trips on the Yangtze, there was a body floating down the river. The guide was not at all surprised (or upset) and just passed it off as a result of all the floods they had had that Spring.


39 posted on 09/07/2012 3:50:34 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: Ronin
Are there any red algae types?

Yes. Ocean red tides come to mind. Algae.

40 posted on 09/07/2012 3:59:38 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Obama A man without an American mission.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Yeah, I know - thanks


41 posted on 09/07/2012 4:02:21 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Red Badger
We just had one of the Great North American Droughts, and within a few months of the peak there's rain, grass grows, pine nuts bloom and bear, and rodents that carry hanta virus thrive.

That epidemic is already on the way.

42 posted on 09/07/2012 4:05:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Zhang Fei
China has Great Droughts pretty much on the same cycle as North America. We were having one in the Southern Plains quadrant for a couple of years and this year it expanded to the Northern plains and the Midwest.

It touched the Eastern Quadrant, so that meant this was just short of the worst kind of drought.

Currently the drought is breaking as hurricanes spin up and onto the continent!

China's drought should also break this year.

The WORST we had that anyone saw personally and wrote about was in the Eastern Quadrant for a 70 year period ~ ending about 1609 or thereabouts. 17 years in the last half saw no precipitation at all and may have influenced Spanish thinking about how to carve North America up in the Treaty of London (1604).

43 posted on 09/07/2012 4:16:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
China's drought should also break this year.

Red tide 1000 miles upstream of the sea, and 500 miles upstream of the dam isn't cause for optimism. Maybe this is one period in which East Asian and North American drought cycles decouple.

44 posted on 09/07/2012 4:41:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: thingumbob

Opening soon just downriver - a new hot sauce factory!


45 posted on 09/07/2012 4:49:51 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Zhang Fei
The driver behind the cycle is the Sun ~ they don't decouple.

Red clay is common throughout China. So is yellow clay. That's a mountainous region. Lots and lots of red and yellow clay around.

46 posted on 09/07/2012 4:52:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kingattax
Looks like Moishe-Tzu is trying to lead the Youtairen, "Hwuy who extract the sinews" and "Hwuy with Blue Caps" out of China.
The one problem is that the ChiComs have amphibious chariots.
47 posted on 09/07/2012 5:04:30 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: All

Moses came back from Heaven and dipped his staff into the river. The Chinese Pharaoh has been given notice!


48 posted on 09/07/2012 5:26:18 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: kingattax

Maybe an algae. If it’s like Karenia brevis and in high enough concentration, it’ll be toxic in fish.


49 posted on 09/07/2012 5:48:24 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: kingattax

Not all red tides are harmful, BTW.


50 posted on 09/07/2012 5:49:08 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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