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A Vote For Romney is a Vote Against Socialism
Townhall.com ^ | September 7, 2012 | Diana West

Posted on 09/07/2012 3:55:40 PM PDT by Kaslin

Back in 2008, during the peak illusory powers of Barack Obama as the post-partisan hopester-and-changer, the media consistently failed to report that the statist beliefs of the Democratic presidential nominee came straight from the socialist playbook. In many cases, the media probably didn't realize it themselves.

At the same time, though, there was, and is, a feeling that such labeling is taboo. Even after an October surprise of a question from "Joe the Plumber" prompted Candidate Obama to reveal his inner redistributionist -- "I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody," Obama told "Joe" in 2008 -- the S-word was verboten.

I took issue with this taboo at the time, and even got called a "Red baiter" on national TV for asking whether Barack Obama would take the country "in a socialist direction."

The answer, of course, was yes: The state is more involved in our economy and lives than ever before, and not just because of Obamacare, which, of course, is a handy moniker for socialized medicine.

To be fair, the socialist direction is in no way a new direction for our country, which has, with only occasional pauses, been moving that way since the days of Franklin Roosevelt and his revolutionary socialist program, which we know, folksily, as the New Deal.

Even under Ronald Reagan, the federal government grew 3 percent. Obama's immediate predecessor, George W. Bush, is aptly described as a "corporate socialist Republican," as Michelle Malkin has long chronicled. Bush's saving grace for conservatives may be his signature tax cuts, but his political epitaph remains his socialistically twisted rationale for his "stimulus" plan known as TARP: "I abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system."

Truth be told, for 80 years the debate in Washington between Democrats and Republicans has turned on how much government should run our lives, not whether government should run our lives in the first place.

Lately, that seems to be changing. Probably despite their better focus-group-driven judgment, the presidential candidates and the political parties they lead have suddenly emerged from the fuzz of euphemism to inject a rare clarity into election rhetoric.

Democrats believe: "The government is the only thing we all belong to." That's the bottom line of a video presentation at the Democratic National Convention this week. Republicans believe: "We don't belong to the government, the government belongs to us." That's the tweeted response to the Democrats' message by Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

For two campaigns that try to avoid the terminology of ideology and philosophy -- as is usual in modern politics -- it doesn't get any clearer, any more "polarizing," than this. And that's a good thing. It divides the two political camps according to their distinguishing ideals: the idealization of state power (Democrats) vs. the idealization of individual rights (Republicans). It's statism vs. liberty.

Democrat keynote speaker Julian Castro, mayor of San Antonio, helped highlight the chasm separating the two parties when he referred to the individual success stories that were showcased at the Republican convention last week. "We all celebrate individual success," Castro said. "But the question is, how do we multiply that success? The answer is President Barack Obama."

For Democrats in the 21st century, the answer to everything is the state. Take the life stories Democrat convention speakers tell, particularly the immigrant success stories, which so many Americans -- even Republicans! -- can invoke. In the Democratic version, modest beginnings are emphasized (the more squalid the details, the better), and the American tradition of upward mobility is catalyzed by a government program and ultimately defined by winning or securing government office. The Democrats' message seems to be: If you work hard and vote Democrat, you can end up in government office, too!

The contrast to the Republican message couldn't be starker. In his "empty chair" monologue, which brilliantly crystallized GOP principles in 10 short minutes, Clint Eastwood put it this way: "I would just like to say something, ladies and gentlemen. Something that is very important. It is that you, we -- we own this country. We -- we own it. Politicians are employees of ours."

Soon, Americans will choose the country's political fate, which, particularly this time around, is also our own role in the future: subjects or citizens? For once, the choice couldn't be clearer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; elections; fidelcastro; mittromney; obama; romney; socialism

1 posted on 09/07/2012 3:55:44 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Well, a vote for slightly less rampant socialism anyway.


2 posted on 09/07/2012 3:57:49 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Kaslin

Hurrah. Go corporatism.


3 posted on 09/07/2012 3:58:36 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

GOD willing, a vote for Romney is a vote for sanity and some social healing in this great country.


4 posted on 09/07/2012 3:59:55 PM PDT by Baynative
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To: Kaslin

Yep. I’m not voting FOR anyone this time around, I’m voting AGAINST. Only way I can do it.


5 posted on 09/07/2012 4:02:03 PM PDT by jessduntno ("President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: Kaslin

No, I disagree. RomneyCare and ObamaCare are both advances in socialism. It's pure and simple. To argue otherwise is intellectually dishonest. You might choose to accept the crap sandwich in order to get Obama out, but don't pretend it's a hamburger or that's healthier for you.


6 posted on 09/07/2012 4:13:07 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Kaslin

RomneyCare.


7 posted on 09/07/2012 4:14:04 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Kaslin
Everyone should listen as Fr.Andrew calls a spade a spade....(past the opening prayer...) then he tells the true Obama agenda.
8 posted on 09/07/2012 4:16:37 PM PDT by yoe
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To: jessduntno

I agree Jess.

I searched to find a Ryan 2012 bumper without someone else’s name on it.

I can’t fathom voting for that someone...so I’m going to vote for Ryan and against Bam. SIGH.


9 posted on 09/07/2012 4:18:39 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Anyone who votes for Hussein is mentally deranged or mentally retarded..or both.)
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To: Kaslin

Let’s not go overboard - it’s not a vote against socialism it’s a vote against marxism/communism.


10 posted on 09/07/2012 4:22:08 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Mountain Mary
I can’t fathom voting for that someone...so I’m going to vote for Ryan and against Bam. SIGH.

Think back...in what recent elections have you ever voted FOR someone? It seems as if its always turning out to be against the most evil for the lesser evil.

11 posted on 09/07/2012 4:23:49 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Mountain Mary



Try this

12 posted on 09/07/2012 4:25:39 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Both Hubert Humphrey and Joseph Stalin were “left of center” were they not? Which would you vote for if given the choice?


13 posted on 09/07/2012 4:36:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Kaslin

Actually, Obama and his people are open marxists, among themselves.

And their supporters don’t mind using the “socialist” word, among themselves.

They just get exercised if their political enemies use the word.


14 posted on 09/07/2012 4:38:12 PM PDT by marron
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To: Kaslin

A vote for Romney is a vote for ANNOYING ROBOCALLING!!!


15 posted on 09/07/2012 4:41:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: Kaslin
Truth be told, for 80 years the debate in Washington between Democrats and Republicans has turned on how much government should run our lives, not whether government should run our lives in the first place.

Hence the rise of the so-called "tea party". The rank and file GOP have forever called for limited government while their GOP party leaders keep shaving a few dollars off the Democrat agenda and calling it victory. Bleating on about tax cuts while the budget balloons and the regulatory agencies pile layers upon layers upon layers of red tape to do the simplest things. The rank and file are fed up... and yet the best we managed to do is to nominate Romney.

So, while I think its a matter of national survival to push Obama out of office, our work has only begun the day Romney takes office. We will have to fight every day to keep him from giving away the store.

16 posted on 09/07/2012 4:47:01 PM PDT by marron
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To: LegendHasIt
Well, a vote for slightly less rampant socialism anyway.

Only slightly less.
17 posted on 09/07/2012 4:53:27 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Kaslin
So the answer is to vote for Obama?

The only choice in the upcoming is slavery or struggle.

Ive struggled all my life, it doesn't deter me.

But I will not be enslaved and if it comes to bullets........

18 posted on 09/07/2012 4:55:57 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can cover up the name on the top of the ticket and vote for Ryan.

But I’m not going to pretend the guy on the top of the ticket isn’t a Socialist too.

The article title, “A Vote For Romney is a Vote Against Socialism” really can’t be true, when we know good and well from his history that Romney is a Socialist. He’s just the less virulent kind, with an (R) behind his name.

The truth is that “A Vote For Romney is a Vote for Somewhat Less Socialism.” It’s a matter of degree, like your hypothetical between Humphrey and Stalin, both leftists.


19 posted on 09/07/2012 5:03:54 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Yes, but Vice President Humphrey was pro-America, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-defense, pro-Life and believed in Capitalism, albeit with some government intervention. I’ll vote for that kind of candidate over an out-and-out Communist any day and twice on Sunday.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 5:11:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Pietro

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


21 posted on 09/07/2012 5:12:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Without a gun to my head, neither Humphrey nor Stalin. I may have come closer to thinking there is a gun to my head in the last couple days, but I am not there yet.


22 posted on 09/07/2012 5:25:45 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Kaslin

It would be a vote for a more gradual slide into socialism, perhaps. I’ll vote for Republicans for the House.


23 posted on 09/07/2012 5:26:53 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The one who killed less people.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 5:28:20 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: familyop

Do you think Governor Mitt Romney hates this country? Barack Obama does! Do you think Mitt Romney detests capitalism, the same capitalism that earned him $300 Million or more? Barack Obama does! Do you believe that Mitt Romney would stop Israel from defending itself or stand aside while Israel is destroyed? Barack Hussein Obama would! Do you think that Mitt Romney would raise taxes and impose more red tape and restrictions on job creators, thus stalling the economy? Barack Obama already has. Do you feel that Mitt Romney wants to destroy the oil, coal and gas industries in the USA, thus putting us in the thrall of Islamic potentates who wish us to become Muslims? Barack Hussein Obama is well on the way to doing so. I could go on for hours. I’ve never had any love for Governor Romney, but when the choice comes down to either him or Barack Hussein Obama, a man dead-set on destroying my country, the country of my birth and whose uniform I proudly wore, there is no contest. And that is the choice. No third party or write-in candidate is going to be sworn in next January. As a fellow veteran, I humbly request that you thoughtfully and prayerfully consider your position vis a vis the coming election and do what reason and faith tells you is the right thing for the United States of America. Thank you.


25 posted on 09/07/2012 5:37:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Kaslin

West said a forbidden word. Socialism. As the dumbass news media would tell us, Obama’s just a regular guy, not a socialist.


26 posted on 09/07/2012 5:40:59 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Kaslin
I voted "for" 3 Presidents in my lifetime: Lyndon Baines Johnson (1st and only Demo-Rat and my excuse is I was young, dumb and in the Military) as well as Ronald Reagan and George Bush (the 1st time).

After Johnson, I didn't vote again until "The Gipper" came along

In 04 I voted "against" the POS, snake, John Kerry and in 08 against Barack Obama as I realized both W and Juan McPain were flaming RINO's, but yet, could not sit those out.

So, I guess I can do it one more time and vote against (while holding my nose) Barack, Barry, Hussein, Soetoro, Obama in order to try and deny this fascist, commie, Rat-Basturd from getting a 2nd chance to destroy our country.

27 posted on 09/07/2012 5:41:43 PM PDT by neveralib
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hubert Humphrey would be a mainstream Republican today. Just sayin’.


28 posted on 09/07/2012 5:43:41 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

To call Romney a socialist is like calling Obama a freedom loving American.

Romney is a poster child of accomplishments in a free county — he started a business and succeeded. Since when is that considered socialist, except in some minds, totally fogged up with hate against Romney, to the extent of even willing to see Obama get a second term, leading to the REAL destruction of the entire country and the spirit of freedom.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 5:49:58 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Kaslin
A Vote For Romney is a Vote Against Socialism

Let me fix that....

A Vote For Romney is a Vote Against Communism and a Vote For Socialism

It’s just a jump to the left! And then a step to the right! Put your hands on your hips and move your knees in tight!

30 posted on 09/07/2012 5:51:39 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks for the link

Here's praying that it never ever comes to such straits.

31 posted on 09/07/2012 5:52:01 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: neveralib

Sometimes, you just have to hold your nose and vote for the nominee. I have done so myself and as it had turned out not regretted it. Ronald Reagan was the first President I voted for and I have only voted for Republicans. I absolutely refuse to vote for a candidate of the rat party


32 posted on 09/07/2012 5:52:11 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: CodeToad

Do you have a caller ID? I just don’t answer calls from numbers I do not recognize. It’s as simple as that


33 posted on 09/07/2012 5:56:02 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Don Corleone
“Think back...in what recent elections have you ever voted FOR someone? It seems as if its always turning out to be against the most evil for the lesser evil.”

And until freedom loving voters change their voting patterns, this will never change for the better, only the worse.

Ultimately the fault lies with us. We've been voting to stay on the slow road to socialism because we attack those who vote to get off. This particular road to serfdom is lined with the same sign over and over: “Just one more compromise.” The slow road or fast road doesn't matter, the destination is the same.

34 posted on 09/07/2012 5:59:44 PM PDT by LaserJock
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Hubert Humphrey would probably be a Fred Thompson/Newt Gingrich type Republican today.


35 posted on 09/07/2012 6:03:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: LegendHasIt

“Well, a vote for slightly less rampant socialism anyway”

Exactly.

Romney ain’t no Reagan.

There is now overt socialism, the-cat-is-out-of-the-beg move of the Dem’s, and then there is the under-the-radar covert socialism that Romney embodies.

Like some have posted “I’m voting for Paul Ryan....and the other guy”.

I’m thinking past Romney.

Oh, and Romneybot’s, you had better hold your man to conservative NON-SOCIALIST values.....or there is hell-to-pay at FR.


36 posted on 09/07/2012 6:11:49 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t go that far. But a cross between Lisa Murkowski and Joe Lieberman? Yes.


37 posted on 09/07/2012 6:17:23 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Still far to the right of Barack Obama and his cohorts.


38 posted on 09/07/2012 6:21:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Kaslin

“Do you have a caller ID? “

Does your caller ID also stop the phone from ringing? Mine doesn’t.


39 posted on 09/07/2012 6:49:25 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

“Hubert Humphrey would be a mainstream Republican today. “

FDR would be a mainstream Republican today and so would LBJ, the “G*d Damned Democrat!” It is sad to see the party sink so low toward Communism as to nominate an extreme left-wing liberal like Romney all in the name of defeating another extreme left-winger.


40 posted on 09/07/2012 6:51:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you for the reply. I’ll be frank and honest with you. The following is not directed at you. It’s what I see in politics, federal and local.

I don’t like seeing vulgarities, hysteria, false accusations or promotions of panic in public political speech. Since most political people put the Clintons into office, the Democrats began more commonly using such speech. Now we see such speech from Republicans.

I will not vote in favor of the desires of socialists, NIMBYs, misogamists (those who hate families), heterophobics, malicious gossips, animal worshipers, bureaucrats, HOA queens, environmentalists, vulgar celebrities, social workers, planners, idle building inspectors, urchins, government school teachers, drug addicts, NGOs, those who desire to violate our Constitution, those who are traitorous against the USA in business, those who desire to violate our Bill of Rights or those wanting policies based on their false prophecies of overpopulation.

Let the new, bipartisan socialists gobble up all of that debt as quickly as possible. After they finish making their mess and beating each other up, we men will rebuild.


41 posted on 09/07/2012 7:04:51 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: CodeToad

I don’t think FDR would. The man was an out and out socialist and was never exposed as he should have been, and would have been today.

But I agree with you regarding the sad state of affairs in the Republican Party. Though there are those here who would tell you that their goal isn’t necessarily to defeat Baraq. Not sure I buy into that, but I am quite sure that they don’t feel any special need to cater to their base through nominating arguably the worst candidate the party has ever fielded.


42 posted on 09/07/2012 7:06:31 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

If Romney adheres to the party platform we will be touting him as better than Reagan. LOL Pigs would be flying.

With the coming election we have two realistic choices. the slow socialist, Romney being a Fabian socialist is willing to wait decades if necessary to bring us to his desired utopia. Then we have the fast socialist, Obama being a revolutionary Marxist communist wants his utopia next week and if you oppose that his solution is the two billion plus rounds of ammo he just purchased and is eager to use. So who are you going to vote for? personally I’m going for the slow socialist hoping that we will have enough time to get handcuffs on socialist thinking and chop off the monsters head.


43 posted on 09/07/2012 11:24:11 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hubert Humphrey would probably be a Fred Thompson/Newt Gingrich type Republican today.

NO!!!! I met HH in 1967 he was dumb as a box of rocks and at the same time could speak for an hour without saying more than “my name is Hubert Horatio Humphrey” and “thank you” no context in an hour of words spewing from his mouth.

He would be a rino, he was Fabian through and through.


44 posted on 09/07/2012 11:35:34 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: marron

A guy I knew would get pissed when I said obama is a socialist. I showed him the cover of, I think it was time, that had a picture of obama and the cpation said “We’re all socialists now.” His reponse was “Well, they’re wrong.”


45 posted on 09/08/2012 2:18:02 AM PDT by Terry Mross (2016 THE MOVIE....scarier than any zombie movie.)
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To: so_real
"RomneyCare and ObamaCare are both advances in socialism. It's pure and simple. To argue otherwise is intellectually dishonest."

Before you accuse me of "intellectual dishonesty", look up socialism in the dictionary. Then give me even one example of socialism by the state of Massachusetts in RomneyCare.

I will accept an argument of "statism" in RomneyCare, but not "socialism". In contrast, you will find numerous examples of socialism in Obamacare. Its fundamental intention is "single payer" medical care i.e. socialized medicine.

Your promiscuous use of the phrase "intellectual dishonesty" reflects negatively on your own intellectual honesty.

46 posted on 09/08/2012 5:16:22 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

I've listened to numerous arguments with respect to "statism" vs "socialism". The distinction appears to lie in what people consider "in the community" and "in the state" (ie, can the state be considered a community and vice versa). And in the distinction between "ownership and control" as apposed to simply "control" (ie, do you really "own" something if you do not control it). If you want to join the group of those trying to make a chasm out of a fine line in order to show the RomneyCare is good and ObamaCare is bad, or that Obama is a socialist but Romney is not, feel free. I find the argument tenuous at best and intellectually dishonest, whether you find my use of that phrase "promiscuous" or not. Bottom line : does the policy legislated mandate that you lose control of capital you own which is then redistributed to another and spent "for the good of" the community/state as whole despite your personal objections to its intended purpose? Yes? Socialism.


47 posted on 09/08/2012 9:21:15 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real
You live in a country where federal law requires hospitals to give free treatment to individuals who can't afford it. That law went into effect while Reagan was president. I suppose that makes him a "socialist" too, under your definition. States can choose to deal with that law in different ways. Massachusetts chose to deal with it by mandating private insurance for those who "could afford" it. Other states simply charge more for the rest of the health care users. If you want to call Massachusetts socialist for doing that, don't let me stop you.

I certainly question your intelligence, though, if you call it "intellectually dishonest" when others chose to define it with more commonly accepted terms.

48 posted on 09/08/2012 9:36:16 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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