Skip to comments.Paul Ryan Says Feds Shouldn’t Interfere With Legalized Medical Pot
Posted on 09/07/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by Ken H
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we just to find a manufactured airborne pathogen to eradicate it
After you find it, are you going to spray it in peoples houses too? And you found government’s authority to do this in which section of the constitution?
Good look for Paul Ryan. Thanks for the post.
I have never taken any illegal drugs so this isn’t my issue, but I would favor a tenth amendment resolution to this issue. Push it to the states to criminalize or not. Save the federal laws for importing into the US only.
0bama promised not to interfere with MM but then he broke his promise and his DoJ has been cracking down hard. No one can or should trust that lying jug-eared Marxist.
Oh look! Someone who read the constitution!
And ever since Obama was elected, he’s sent Eric Holder and the DOJ after marijuana clinics in every state that allows it by law.
Smart move by Ryan, and no I don’t smoke the ganja weed, and by the way... Have you noticed that Eric Holder has seemed to fall off the face of the earth this campaign season? Aside from going after Gallup, that is.
Thalidomide, sold under the name “Thalomid” in the United States, for the treatment of nausea and loss of appetite, costs about $8,089.00 a month.
Thalidomide is so dangerous that, if you drop a pill on the floor and a pregnant woman so much as picks up the pill and places it on the counter for you, that brief contact will allow enough Thalidomide to be absorbed through her skin to cause serious birth defects in her unborn child.
One of the great success stories of the United States Food and Drug Administration is that, about 50 years ago, the United States would not approve Thalidomide for the treatment of morning sickness in pregnant women. Great Britain, unfortunately, did grant such approval and subsequently suffered the tragic “flipper baby” epidemic of children born with grotesque deformities.
Thalidomide IS approved in the United States for nausea and loss of appetite in cancer and chemo patients, but it is expensive, dangerous and an administrative nightmare to provide the drug. Patients must submit to a recorded voice interview every time they fill a prescription, and they must agree to warn everyone in the household of the dangers associated with Thalidomide, and must agree to proper disposal of the drug in the event that they discontinue usage, and must appoint someone to dispose of the drug in the event of the patient’s death, as well as post signs and warnings where the drug is stored.
Taxpayers and private insurance companies are now paying $8,089.00 per month for a highly toxic, dangerous drug that simply gives Chemo patients the “munchies” and helps them keep their food down, after they eat.
Don’t we have anything out there that might be cheaper, and less dangerous?
Wouldnt the anxiety and pain-reducing features, in other substances, also be of some benefit, to terminal cancer patients?
I applaud the Wichita Pachyderm Club for inviting Jon Hauxwell, MD to speak on the topic of Medicinal Cannabis recently.
I am disappointed that so many elected officials declined to attend, and I am very disappointed with those who do not have the courage to engage in serious debate on this matter.
For the record, I have not come in contact with Marijuana since my college days, years ago. I hold over a dozen different government licenses and certifications and I cant risk a criminal record of any kind.
This is a matter of fiscal common sense, practical medical application, public safety and simple humanity.
It is well past time to consider medical marijuana. One of my clients was a law enforcement officer, who had cancer. He convinced me that change was needed, on the price and safety issues of Thalidomide, alone.
Is Marijuana more dangerous than Thalidomide? Of course not!
The price of Thalidomide tells us that! Nearly the entire price is due to LIABILITY concerns. The actual drug is not that expensive to make. Must taxpayers and insurance companies spend $8,089.00 a month for every cancer patient, just to give them back their appetite and keep them from vomiting? Marijuana smoke cant be regurgitated; it is an obvious answer to a very real problem!
Why do I care if my position makes some hippie happy?
On this issue, the hippies are RIGHT!
It's a damn weed, that gives users a "fuzz." You can't even get "wasted" on it.
They are helping their thug friends by stomping on the competition.
Heh! Face it GL, this is a HUGE blow against marijuana prohibition.
Next on the libertarian list is kiddie porn
I’m not a doper but this works on two fronts.
It restores States’ Rights and pulls in some of Paul’s supporters.
He reflects what I’ve thought for a while now...the states should be left alone on this (and many other issues).
Ryan just won us CO and CA In one fell swoop.
come on you say a dry pill of thalidomide can release enough medication through the skin to be teratogenic? why isn’t it delivered as an enteric coated pill, so that such contamination by casual contact would be impossible?
Paul Ryan understands federalism.
I hope he’s Romney’s right hand.
That’s stupid: Ryan is a devout Catholic.
The debate is over substances with a debated valid medical use, vs. pure mind trash that abuses and degrades the kids used to make it with.
“They are helping their thug friends by stomping on the competition. “
And giving select doper groups free semiauto guns, and other gear.
> Paul Ryan Says Feds Shouldnt Interfere With Legalized Medical Pot
What’s Ryan trying to do with such talk, win an election?
This should help a lot of Ron Paul people, twenty-somethings and libertarians take a second look and perhaps vote for Romney/Ryan.
sure. legal drugs pimped out by drug companies and doctors are ten times worse than pot.
“And ever since Obama was elected, hes sent Eric Holder and the DOJ after marijuana clinics in every state that allows it by law.”
The only good thing the commie bastard ever did in his life!!!!!!
“The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.
John Stuart Mill
Kiddie porn is not manufactured with consenting adults. I find you guilty of using false straw man arguments to justify your irrationality.
Any coating would delay or diminish the effect, perhaps even making the drug miss its target in the digestive system, entirely.
Look it up.
I know what I am talking about, this Thalidomide is dangerous stuff to unborn babies.
Come on now.
I'm not a libertarian, really, but you might as well have wrote "I have an irresistible urge to appear extremely foolish tonight."
“....he personally doesnt approve of medical marijuana laws. But he said that states should have the right to choose whether to legalize the drug for medical purposes.”
THAT is my position, exactly. Good for Ryan.
Ryan's going after his OWS votes.
Thalidomide was a well known scandal, but the idea that skin contact with a pill is teratogenic is new to me. That suggests, chillingly, that a terrorist could use a similar mechanism to poison a crowd that hadn’t even been exposed to enough stuff to know it had been poisoned.
And why would male users of the medicine have to be warned on the record never to use it if pregnancy was possible... that is stupid.
It can’t cost that much to produce the medicine. It has to be a liability issue where the insurance is a thousand times more costlier than the chemical.
I agree with Ryan on the principle that no citizen should be caught between conflicting state and federal laws. I am sure there are other instances where federal and state laws conflict, but you have to start somewhere.
Each order requires a recorded telephone conversation and clearance from the drug company before the pharmacy is allowed to release the order.
Yes, it is very dangerous.
My point, of course, is that pot is not as dangerous.
I've seen, up close, the honest benefits of what medical marijuana provided to a long time friend who was dying of terminal cancer.
I'll say no more other than Ryan's right. Let the States decide for themselves. The Federal Government is too far "out of control" to understand a personal situation like death.
In fact, they're so far "out of control" America is now truly in jeopardy.
All the stupid warnings are because of the lawyers. What happens then if the patient dies. Superfund site? Ridiculous.
Why do you trust the Federal Government more than the States to see things your way?
I found the NIH info here:
It's in in a capsule. The threat of contamination is really the risk of handling a broken or leaking capsule.
There are many more warnings and restrictions. You have to see a doctor every month to refill the prescription.
If you are a woman that can become pregnant, you have to use two forms of birth control 4 weeks before, during, and 4 weeks after treatment (or abstain entirely from sex).
While you are taking it, all of your bodily fluids are contaminated -- which means that everyone around you must take special precautions.
They’ll let you suicide yourself without a batted eye, but heaven help you if you have some weed to make your death or treatment easier.
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
Ah, a liquidgel.
If you were a thalidomide patient and you spit on a pregnant woman — could you be convicted of the crime of mayhem?
For the purposes of this discussion I don’t even care about the merits of the issue. States decide what is a crime within their jurisdiction period.
It's not the man that needs to worry about it, it's his partner. The drug is secreted in seminal fluid.
Please read what I have posted again and get back to me.
Your post makes no sense.
Your question makes no sense.
So which Leftist clown posse do you work for?
Not really happy about this. I see this as a gateway to legalizing ALL pot use—and maybe even ALL drugs—in the future, which some do want to see. I’d rather go the OTHER way—and make ALL illegal drugs MUCH harder to get.
BUT..there are MUCH bigger “fish to fry” in this election. It will NOT change my, nor do I suspect many true conservatives, votes. And it WILL likely get a few, maybe even MORE than a few “independents” on the team too. A number of people I know, will NOT be unhappy about this one.
Like I said...MUCH bigger fish to fry than to worry about pot this round...
States Rights. Amendment #10.
Way to go, Paul Ryan!
It's a left wing propaganda bot, it will trash talk what ever Romney/Ryan do.
I’m with Paul on this too, but I’m thinking of taking the stigma away from the industrial use of basic hemp. Is there a more useful plant in God’s garden?
perhaps what is good for dope is good for the unborn...
if federalism applies to MM, why not to the unborn?