Skip to comments.Landlord 'nightmare' in eviction attempt (San Francisco)
Posted on 09/08/2012 1:46:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Janet Sluizer knew she was taking a bit of a chance when she turned to Craigslist this summer to find a tenant for her apartment in the Mission.What she didn't expect was that she'd be spending thousands of dollars in a struggle to evict a roommate who she says hasn't paid rent beyond the first month.
"This is a nightmare,"Sluizer said.
It's a nightmare that landlord advocates say is all too common in SanFrancisco, where 64 percent of residents rent.
.....According to [Janan]New[executive director of the San Francisco Apartment Association], a combination of confusing rent ordinances and an abundance of free legal resources for tenants make it difficult for inexperienced landlords to evict someone on their own.
"A lot of the situations in other counties would be dealt simply with a 30-day notice and that's the end of it,....In San Francisco,you just can't do that."
According to SuperiorCourt records, seven unlawful detainer suits have been filed against [Louis]Podover in San Francisco. Landlord attorney Drexel Bradshaw has a term for those who game the system by paying only the first month's rent and delaying eviction proceedings: professional tenants.
"They move in, they take advantage and they end up living rent free," he said. "A few days before the prospective subtenant is forced to move out, they'll find another landlord of whom they can take advantage."
[Sluizer] said she takes full responsibility for not getting anything in writing from Podover as soon as he moved in, something that landlord attorneys said is a recipe for disaster. She said she's offered to pay movers and cover a motel for two weeks for Podover, anything to get her piece of mind back.
"This guy is having a field day on my dime," she said. "I just want him out of my house."
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Some people just don’t know how to evict a bad tenant.
Sounds like you would have to be insane to live in San Francisco, something that seems reinforced on FR on a daily basis
SF has a purpose, to attract all the wingnuts to one place, kind of like a Roach Motel for freaks.
My apologies in advance to any freeper who lives there because it's their hometown or they work there.
wall it off
I have experience with bad tenants in one of the very worst places to have a bad tenant, NYC.
Judges there start from the assumption all landlords are ultra rich and can and should pay for everything. NYC landlords have HORROR stories from deadbeat tenants who know this and know how to scam the system. They move from landlord to landlord, victimizing them.
I can tell you one of the reasons landlords become conservative is by having one of these creeps get in, pay no rent, trash the apartment (you can’t cut off utilities) and refuse to move until the day before the sheriff shows up. Months without rent. You will NEVER recover damages, and then to have the judges treat you like YOU are the creep - makes you HATE the government.
LOL! Great minds!
Pacific Heights Trailer (1990)
Didn’t people used to have to have references from previous landlords? Seems like a good idea.
64% RENT??? OMG!
The obama squatter squad, they have the right to free habitation. How dare you make a profit
The owner looks like she came for the Summer of Love and never got any.
Renting houses thru CraigsList?
This too can be laid at the feet of the libs who don’t believe in private property rights. And naturally it’s in Libland San Francico, but apparently elsewhere in CA as well.
Exactly what I was thinking as soon as I read “San Francisco”. Excellent movie too.
I loved that movie!
Heck, I would not even visit that place, nor any other part of Californica. If I could get my friends and FReepers out of there, I wouldn’t care if it fell into the ocean.
I have relatives that are landlords, and they try to be as picky as possible (asking for previous rent receipts, references, and such); somne of the stories I’ve read would tempt me to have a fire in the place.
“The obama squatter squad, they have the right to free habitation. How dare you make a profit”
Profits are hard to come by if you own in an area with rent control; tenants demanding repairs that couldn’t be covered by rents, the inability to charge higher rents for upgraded/improved apartments or higher property taxes, etc.
The landlords I know can do most of the maintenance themselves (with the exception of some of the more complcated electrical), and they own building that are in towns without rent control.
Beat me to the Pacific Heights thought! What an idiot on all accounts. Nothing in writing, didn’t collect 1st, last months rent, deposit. Craig’s list...lucky she’s still alive. And I am betting no credit check. I am so grateful I moved to Texas from there many years ago. I am also amazed people freely advertise their stupidity.
“Some people just dont know how to evict a bad tenant.”
Not all landlords have a shotgun handy.
Dear Neil, as a “journalist” you should know that one can give someone a “piece” of their mind, but in this case Janet Sluizer is seeking “peace” of mind.
This is what happens when our youths are taught to “sound out” spellings. Neil must have went to a progressive school. LOL.
“...kind of like a Roach Motel for freaks.”
Austin serves that purpose in Texas....but now, there are so many freaks that crime is getting to be a serious problem. There is a vicious rape reported on the TV news about every other day now. The merry band of cops on bikes isn’t getting the job done any more.
“...wall it off...”
Fill it with 50ft of sea water. Skim-off and burn floating debris. End of problem.
Hiring a good property management company is well worth the cost. They will run credit checks on all tenants, including any lawsuits they have filed, do property inspections and minor repairs, and if needed handle evictions. People who think “I’ll do it myself and save money” don’t usually know the headaches involved.
It would be awful if somebody broke into this lady’s house in the middle of night and beat the hell out of this guy. He might not feel secure anymore in staying there.
She’ll be lucky if he doesnt claim squatter’s rights and end up owning the house
Landlords beware in liberal states and cities
What we do around here is remove the front door.
That would be sad - an old friend got rid of a squatter by going one step short of that. His brother is an undercover cop who looks like a stereotypical Brother Speed biker (fat, hairy, greasy, tattooed, VERY strong, and a nice Harley - actually a great guy, but some people would not think so at first glace). Cousin moved out and biker moved in. Three nights in a row, biker fired multiple shots inside my friend's room during the night (blanks, I think), but in that area the police never came of course. On the fourth day, the squatter was gone forever. I guess it's hard to sleep with only two layers of drywall between you and gunshots.
That’s a great story!
I recall an incident in my youth. My dad asked me to accompany him to check out one of my grandmothers rental units for squaters. My dad stopped with his lights out above a quarter block away from the house and noted a light went on. Then he went into action....on a normal day my dad looked mean, on a bad day like this he look maniacal. He zoomed up the front steps, crashed into the place and the next thing I saw was one guy flying through a window to the ground below, about 8 feet, and the second guy getting shoe leathered down the front steps with my dad holding a 45.
True story and something I never forgot....I never messed with my dad either by the way. In fact had I fallen off a building and my dad yelled stop as I was heading to the ground, I would have...immediately.
Ahem. It should be: "Neil must have gone to a progressive school."
Pull a credit report.
If not references from a previous landlord, at least credit and background checks. I require a credit and background check on every person 18 years of age or older. It also helps if you get the money up front and have them sign a lease agreement BEFORE you turn over the keys.
I have manged property for 27 years and I am as picky as the owner of the property will allow.
I’ve never dealt with tenants; are you allowed to ask for W-2?
Ahem, no kidding. That’s why LOL ends the thought.
In Ohio you are allowed to ask for proof of income. I always require the proof. Too many people will try to say they get paid under the table. If they want me to rent to them, they better have some kind of proof to back up what they say. Years ago, we required a tenant earn 4 times the rent. We have since reduced the required income to only 3 times the rent with no bad outcome.
My Dad wasn’t quite that way but I would not have wanted to ever tangle with him.
I actually depend more on credit and complete court/criminal background check than on reference from a current landlord. I have been lied to too many times by a current landlord that is wanting to unload a bad tenant.
PACIFIC HEIGHTS is a great movie. I showed it every quarter to my real estate law students.
Yep, it’s a start
Can't have the smoking now, can we? Is this now an "actionable" offense?
“I always require the proof. Too many people will try to say they get paid under the table. If they want me to rent to them, they better have some kind of proof to back up what they say.”
That makes a lot of sense. I don’t know how people do it here in NJ with so many illegal aliens.