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Sonyís 84-inch LED TV with 4K resolution costs $24,999, ships in November
BGR ^ | 9/06/12 | Raymond Wong

Posted on 09/08/2012 2:13:50 AM PDT by Libloather

Sony’s 84-inch LED TV with 4K resolution costs $24,999, ships in November
By: Raymond Wong | Sep 6th, 2012 at 11:35PM

As if there was any doubt Sony’s (SNE) giant 84-inch 4K resolution LED TV would be expensive, Sony has finally priced its upcoming XBR-84X900 TV. The flat screen with a whopping 3840 x 2160-pixel resolution and integrated speakers will sell for $24,999. While Sony will start taking preorders for the TV beginning Thursday, September 6th, it won’t actually be available until November.

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In other TV news - TV With 16 Times Resolution of HDTV Passed by UN Standards Body

UHDTV, or Ultra High Definition Television, allows for programming and broadcasts at resolutions of up to 7680 by 4320, along with frame refresh rates of up to 120Hz, double that of most current HDTV broadcasts. The format also calls for a broader palette of colors that can be displayed on screen.

1 posted on 09/08/2012 2:13:59 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Give it a few years, that price will likely drop very very steeply


2 posted on 09/08/2012 2:20:26 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Libloather

Who exactly broadcasts at that resolution?


3 posted on 09/08/2012 2:21:01 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

I don’t care, I just want something significantly higher than 1920x1080 to become standard so that it will help drive down the price of higher-res large computer monitors, say in the 27” and up range. Apple Thunderbolt displays (at 2560x1440) and the similar Dell models still run pretty expensive.


4 posted on 09/08/2012 2:26:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GeronL
"Give it a few years, that price will likely drop very very steeply"

As in $2,349+tax at Sam's Club, circa 2016 - 2017.


5 posted on 09/08/2012 3:09:26 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Libloather

Res nice, wider color gamut great.


6 posted on 09/08/2012 3:13:21 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: Libloather

Linky no worky...


7 posted on 09/08/2012 3:17:56 AM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: Libloather
Here is the problem for these new tvs: how good of a tv do you really need? I've read various reports that 3-D tvs are not selling well. Why not? Isn't 3-D the next new great thing? It's not selling that well because people most people are quite satisfied with what they have at a much cheaper price.

I relate it to ice cream. There are various expensive ice creams that their backers tout as being the best-tasting ice cream in the world. And maybe they are. But so what? If you're satisfied (as I am) with a much cheaper brand that tastes almost as good, why buy the very expensive brand? That goes for all products. I don't have to eat at the most expensive steak house in town to be satisfied with a good steak dinner.

As with these other examples, I don't need the latest, greatest gadget (in this case ultra-huge tv) to be satisfied. My wife and I are more than happy with out 46" Toshiba hdtv that was a vast improvement over our old 37" analog. The price will surely go down with this latest galactic-sized innovation, and maybe I'll buy one when it gets down to something affordable. But it won't because I absolutely have to have one because it's superior to the one I have now. It might be (and probably is) superior, but ....so what?

8 posted on 09/08/2012 3:21:45 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: this_ol_patriot

Just think our dear leader on an 84 inch tv, sends shivers up my leg


9 posted on 09/08/2012 4:32:16 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Libloather

$24,000 + 500 channels still = not a bit worth watching in high resolution.....


10 posted on 09/08/2012 4:42:14 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: driftless2
Our consumer society often makes illogical choices.

In science fiction stories, sometimes a wall or a window will turnout to be a TV screen. Imagine sitting at home in Oklahoma and looking out the window and enjoying the pounding Atlantic surf on the rocky coast below. Blue sky, puffy clouds stretching off to the horizon. A perfect day. Or, for a change, the pristine, snow-capped mountains of Colorado -- right before your eyes. Best view in town.

Are these super-fancy TVs destined to become nothing more than a window offering an illusion that we live in a nice place? Quite possibly.

11 posted on 09/08/2012 4:42:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Libloather

I think a couple of the women on The View look wide enough already.


12 posted on 09/08/2012 5:03:36 AM PDT by moovova (Hope-ium...Time to kick the habit.)
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To: GeronL
Give it a few years, that price will likely drop very very steeply

I'm ordering mine from Amazon.com. You get free delivery for anything over $25.
13 posted on 09/08/2012 5:17:44 AM PDT by Krankor (Green-eyed lady, lovely lady Strolling slowly towards the sun)
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To: driftless2

I agree.... Though I have two tvs one is 20 years old and the other 15 and neither is larger than 26”. But guess what Santa’s bringing me this year? The actual drive is to open up space in the house and eliminate the cabinet the current TV sets in.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 5:18:11 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: driftless2

I agree.... Though I have two tvs one is 20 years old and the other 15 and neither is larger than 26”. But guess what Santa’s bringing me this year? The actual drive is to open up space in the house and eliminate the cabinet the current TV sets in by putting a flat screen on the wall.


15 posted on 09/08/2012 5:19:59 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Libloather

I guess i’ll take 3 of them at that cheap price , Living Rm. , Family Rm. and Bed Rm . What the hell is $75k now days ?? (sarc).


16 posted on 09/08/2012 5:21:13 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: driftless2

I will buy one when the price comes down. It would be a great way to display family photos and our phones will likely be taking 4k video by then.


17 posted on 09/08/2012 5:24:11 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Libloather

I would love to get either a new Sony or Samsung 40” LED LCD, 1080p, 120hz, TV, but I have a 20 year old 22” Sony Trinitron that still works pretty well and with the scrambler devices for pulling in digital broadcasts, I can’t justify junking it for a new set. Fiscal discipline I guess.


18 posted on 09/08/2012 5:28:51 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Libloather

Wt not yet shown.

These large screen HDTVs generally weigh over 300lbs and with a mount installed crest the 400lb above 4ft over finish floor height mandating seismic design for their installation.

Also their mounting height can be tricky inside a single story 8ft ceiling room, to allow full viewing with other furnishings.

I just installed 5 similar systems in a Data Center made by Samsung and Panasonic. Panasonic was Plasma, but twice the power requirement, but less than 250lb. Samsung required 60% more power than this Sony, and LCD, but weighed over 350 lbs.


19 posted on 09/08/2012 5:29:01 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Libloather

I don’t “do” TV but I sure know what to do with 25 grand...


20 posted on 09/08/2012 5:44:03 AM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: Las Vegas Dave

HDTV Ping


21 posted on 09/08/2012 5:45:11 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: MachIV
I would love to get either a new Sony or Samsung 40” LED LCD, 1080p, 120hz, TV, but I have a 20 year old 22” Sony Trinitron that still works pretty well and with the scrambler devices for pulling in digital broadcasts, I can’t justify junking it for a new set. Fiscal discipline I guess.

It depends on what you're into. I'm a huge fan of classic films. I can't see enjoying Ben-Hur or Lawrence of Arabia on a square 22" standard def TV.

22 posted on 09/08/2012 6:14:20 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Tuanedge

$25k would buy me a brand new replacement car. Or I could sit at home letting my body and brain rot. My last TV was pretty crummy and landed on the curb 13+ years ago, never to be replaced.


23 posted on 09/08/2012 6:18:31 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: driftless2

Plus, most people are still using the TV to watch reruns of Gilligan’s Island or some similar drivel.

Who needs to see that the newsreaders roots need to be touched up or that the quarterback missed a spot when he shaved this morning?

And who has space in the house for an 84” TV? For the average home, a TV that big would be uncomfortable to watch because the viewer would be sitting way too close.


24 posted on 09/08/2012 6:19:04 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: driftless2

Same here. We shopped for our first HDTV about a year and a half ago. I wanted a LED back lit screen with a decent refresh rate, about 42 inches. The 3D sets were being pushed but I just couldn’t see it. I looked at a number of the 3D’s and thought it was mostly a distraction. We watch movies mainly for the story. Those with great special effects but lousy stories are always avoided. As for sports (the wife and I watch a lot of baseball and football)the LG 47” we bought on sale will suffice for a very long time. The funny part was that it took me about a year of steady browsing before I made a purchase. Since then I have had no desire whatsoever to go into an electronics store (much to my wife’s relief!)


25 posted on 09/08/2012 6:32:07 AM PDT by ZChief
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To: Pontiac; Las Vegas Dave

Like so many things , if you easily afford it, you don’t worry about the cost. Of couse movie addict that i am would like to see a movie on one. Wonder if Best Buy or similar retailers will have display model. Hi there to you both. Will we see each other this campaign cycle?


26 posted on 09/08/2012 6:32:57 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Walkingfeather

Americans will get into physical fights to own one of these larger mass hypnosis devices soon enough.


27 posted on 09/08/2012 6:39:02 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: generally
And who has space in the house for an 84” TV? For the average home, a TV that big would be uncomfortable to watch because the viewer would be sitting way too close.

Optimum viewing distance would be about 11 feet.


Where:

VD: Viewing distance DS: Display's diagonal size
NHR: Display's native horizontal resolution (in pixels)
NVR: Display's native vertical resolution (in pixels)
CVR: Vertical resolution of the video being displayed (in pixels)

28 posted on 09/08/2012 6:53:17 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: DollyCali

The end of October I will be taking vacation to work on the campaing.

Hope to see all of the old gange then.


29 posted on 09/08/2012 6:54:53 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Are these super-fancy TVs destined to become nothing more than a window offering an illusion............?

Essentially, that's all they are now.

30 posted on 09/08/2012 7:30:00 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: GeronL

Nobody. Best you can get right now is 1080p


31 posted on 09/08/2012 7:50:53 AM PDT by youngidiot (The name's Bond. James Bond. James Bond Jovi.)
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To: Cvengr
These large screen HDTVs generally weigh over 300lbs ...
I have no idea what you're talking about.
I've looked at well over 20 models - up to 70" screen, plasma, LED, LCD - and most weigh around 90 pounds or less.
Even the 80" screens I've found are more like 120 pounds - nowhere near the 300 you stated.

Example:
Product Weight 121.3 lbs. with stand (113.5 lbs. without)
TV Type LED Flat-Panel
Screen Size Class 80"
32 posted on 09/08/2012 8:32:00 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: GeronL; youngidiot

My brother is TV cameraman. He shoots pro NBA basketball, NFL football, etc. He says that they broadcast all games in 720 HD as 1080 takes up too much bandwidth.


33 posted on 09/08/2012 8:37:25 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Pontiac; ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; aft_lizard; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; ...
Pinging the HDTV list..
HDTV pings.

Interested in the HDTV ping list?
Please Freepmail me (freepmail works best) if you would like your name added to the HDTV ping list, ( approximately 375 freepers are currently on the HDTV ping list ).
The pinged subjects can be HDTV technology, satellite, cable, and OTA HD reception (Over The Air with roof top or indoor antennas), Broadcast specials, Sports, Blu-ray/HDDVD, and any and all subjects relating to HDTV.
Note: if you search Freerepublic using the keyword "“HDTV”, you will find most of the past HDTV postings.


34 posted on 09/08/2012 8:39:30 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (".....All 57 states (or is it 58?) must stand together and defeat O'bozo!.....")
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To: GeronL

The people who make profits and can afford those prices are the ones who make it affordable for us.


35 posted on 09/08/2012 8:43:38 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: oh8eleven

Panasonic TH-85PF12U from specs apporox. 260.2 lbs
Samsung SyncMaster 820TSn-2 1915.0 x 1230.0 x 500.0 mm / 75.4 x 48.4 x 19.7 inches (WithStand) / 140 kg / 308.6 lbs

If you don’t trust the specs, go try to lift one.

I agree, the smaller 42-55” units are featherweight.

So now you can really enjoy that red 4 being placed on the black 5! ;^)


36 posted on 09/08/2012 8:47:47 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: reed13k

Last year, after years of seeing others with the flat screens, We finally got rid of the 36” CRT TV we had.
Yeah, we too had an extra TV cabinet (now a kids closet), too small for the 52” we got.

Now its got internet, you can watch from computers, etc.
and 1080p resolution means movies look like ... movies. around $1000. The CRT TV I bought 12 years earlier cost around $600 or so.

Here’s the thing: That Sony CRT TV was perfectly servicable and is now ‘junk’ because of technology. What we have now can last 15 years probably (LEDs last a long time).

I guess I know what we will buy in 12 years. It will be something like this 84 inch.

The electronics companies have to keep making something better or they wont have anything to sell.


37 posted on 09/08/2012 8:53:26 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: Cvengr
I agree, the smaller 42-55” units are featherweight.
As I stated - I looked at units with no less than 60" screens all the way up to 80".
The one or two examples you list do not support your comment - "These large screen HDTVs generally weigh over 300lbs."
Generally, they don't come close to 300.
38 posted on 09/08/2012 8:56:48 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Libloather

The finest in pictorial rendering of absolute tripe and rubbish!


39 posted on 09/08/2012 8:58:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Inyo-Mono

Broadcast HDTV comes in two flavors. 720p and 1080i.

720p sends 60 whole frames per second and looks better for video with a lot of motion. 1080i sends 60 half frames per second and looks sharper if there is little motion.

Although, they both can be artificially bit starved, 720p and 1080i should both use about the same bandwidth.

If your brother is shooting video for ABC or Fox, they broadcast everything HD in 720p not just sports.


40 posted on 09/08/2012 9:12:17 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Inyo-Mono
ABC and Fox use 720p because supposedly, it works way better for fast-moving action like sporting events. The 1080i on CBS and NBC is very sharp, but sometimes you can see the artifacts of fast motion during NFL football games.

And 1080p from a Blu-ray movie is just breathtaking. Go see Pixar's Cars or Toy Story 3 or the Diamond Edition of Disney's Beauty and the Beast--the picture quality on Blu-ray on a 40" or bigger flat screen is just breathtaking....

Anyway, they're about to agree on a standard for 3820 x 2160 super-resolution HDTV--I've read it's so sharp it's essentially like looking out a window. Problem is, it may be years before we broadcasts at such high resolution and also an upgraded Blu-ray standard for disc players.

41 posted on 09/08/2012 9:15:11 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88

We will be recording our family videos at this resolution for years before the broadcasters use it or studios sell movies to the general public using it.


42 posted on 09/08/2012 9:30:55 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: generally

>> For the average home, a TV that big [84”] would be uncomfortable to watch because the viewer would be sitting way too close.

Sorry, I have to disagree. I did a cheapie roll-your-own theater room about 10 years ago with a Panasonic projector, and really looked into the issue of screen width vs. viewing distance. My screen is about that size, and ~10’-12’ is pretty perfect. Plenty of people have dens where viewing distances are that much or further.


43 posted on 09/08/2012 9:34:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Pontiac

Cuyahoga county?


44 posted on 09/08/2012 9:34:48 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Brown Deer

Nicely done. See my previous post, made before I saw yours. We are in complete agreement.


45 posted on 09/08/2012 9:38:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: DollyCali

Most likely here in Lake county


46 posted on 09/08/2012 9:44:03 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: metesky
TV With 16 Times Resolution of HDTV Passed by UN Standards Body

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/261288/tv_with_16_times_resolution_of_hdtv_passed_by_un_standards_body.html

47 posted on 09/08/2012 9:53:42 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Cvengr; oh8eleven
Wt not yet shown.

These large screen HDTVs generally weigh over 300lbs...


Weight: 176.3 pounds
Height: 44 3/4 inches
Width: 84 1/4 inches
Depth: 3 5/8 inches

48 posted on 09/08/2012 10:31:34 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: RayChuang88

The present ATSC broadcast transmission standard yields 19.2 megabits per second on a given RF channel. I’m dubious about making a decent looking moving image of 3820x2160 pixels with that bit rate. Yes, they may come up with an advanced encoding standard (mpeg5, anyone), but it may simply not be possible to achieve acceptable quality with the given bandwidth.

Cable or satellite services may come up with a usable transmisson standard long before broadcast does.

Then again, with the internet and fiber to the house, broadcast TV may be going the way of the dodo.


49 posted on 09/08/2012 10:33:52 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Libloather

What happens if your eyes are only 2K?


50 posted on 09/08/2012 11:01:47 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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