Skip to comments.Queens man dies after attacking kickboxing gas-station clerk
Posted on 09/08/2012 6:27:01 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
He picked the wrong guy to mess with.
A drunken Queens man went berserk after he couldnt get an ATM to work at a gas station early yesterday and was killed when he turned his rage to the attendant a former competitive kickboxer.
I feel bad. I didnt mean for the guy to die. He called me a Taliban, said Jasjeet Walia, who was released from custody last night after being grilled by cops all day.
I feel like throwing up. Im having a bad headache, said Walia, an amateur kickboxer for seven years in his native Mumbai.
Arzeno had just collected a bundle of cash from a police-brutality suit against the NYPD.
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Only to die in a gas station parking lot for being an idiot.
We live in troubled times. The Bombey boxer was trained to defend himself. The drunk made his appointment
Jasjeet Walia is a name Sikhs use. The wrong type of people to choose to mess with.
Why would they want to do that with a nice calm, gentle guy like Oscar? /s
Sikhs are good people. Clean, honest hard working.
Man was killed by his own stupidity.
That has been my impression.
Martial arts skill is one weapon the feds can’t confiscate.
,,,, sometimes crime doesn’t pay ,,, find another occupation .
You can fill-in the rest of this guy's bio.
In some states, having proven martial arts ability qualifies your body as a deadly weapon.
If you injure someone, even if they hit you first, you can be charged with “assault with a deadly weapon”. The risk increases if your assailant is part of a certain protected class of “people”.
The rationale is that a professional fighter can subdue someone without injury and any injury caused is unnecessary and on purpose.
Never register your martial arts ability and never publicly boast about your belts, trophies, etc.
The use of martial arts may bring into question how much force was used on the drunk. This guy was a competitive kick boxer and knew what he was doing and the drunk died. I don’t know if he could go to jail for that or just open himself to a law suit from the family. I’ve heard of this happening even if someone ‘s defending himself.
Come on, nobody knows who you are behind the anonymity of your freep name...be brave, tell us exactly what you mean...or be a punk and smirk.
I’m not sure how I feel about this one. A skilled fighter killing a drunk doesn’t really impress.
My classmates back in HS were Sikhs too so I recognized the name pattern.
Great business-minded culture and warm people as I got invited to lunches all the time. The one thing I couldn’t stand was the strong smell of curry. it’s like they bathe in it..
He’d make a good cop. Good for the gene pool.
Yeah. Sikhs are only one step less deadly than Ghurkas.
All those fell into the lake this summer during the same terrible incident where I lost my guns.
Just add this.
What this guy was doing is a style of kickboxing called Muay Thai that is most definitely the real deal. Loads of conditioning (meaning that not only can he give a strong blow but he can also take it), hitting endlessly until the shins and elbows are calloused and desensitised (meaning he can hit you harder without feeling pain himself), and an aggressive mindset. I have a close friend who also killed a man using his Muay Thai skills when he was robbed at an ATM in Nairobi. He was jumped by two men, and although he had a license for a gun (one needs to have a license to carry in Kenya, which is quite the laborious process) he simply didn't have time to reach for it. With both guys attacking nonstop all he could do is hit back and he fortunately got one guy with a lucky kick (who ran away since a lot of thugs aren't necessarily that brave and expect their victims to play the role) and he chocked the other one (killing him by mistake). He wasn't charges.
You are 100% right on the need to be careful of you know martial arts - especially reality-based martial arts systems. It is all too easy for a jury to say you acted unreasonably, and if it is revealed that you practice Kali or Silat (Filipino and Indonesia arts, respectively, that are the best for using knives), and you used your knife to mess up some guy - you may go to jail. Google Leo Gaje JR to see what Petiki Kirsia Kali teaches for knife attacks - crazy stuff that I can get away with in Africa but will throw you in jail in New York. Or say you know Krav Maga and you kill a pickpocket! Very easy for a jury to say you could have controlled the situation better. The system I do always recommends that I VERY LOUDLY shout that 'I don't want to fight' and 'please don't hurt me' or 'you are scaring me now' so that any witnesses can know whatever happens next is not my fault. It makes no sense to win a fight and then go to jail.
One less illegal invader? Got his lamp blowed out,, tragic tragic./
Secondly, one less riotous moron who thinks other people and their possessions are theirs to destroy/harm whenever the mood strikes 'em .. drunken or otherwise.
Hopefully the money that the dead coward extorted from the taxpayers through his lawsuit will go to the illegitimate children he never would have bothered to support. Sad when the best thing you can do for your kids is to die while committing a felony.
The problem with a “throwing” type knife is that if you miss you’ve now armed your foe.
are you saying be careful about bringing a fist to a knife or gun fight?
this is how stupid we are today. if you fight off an assailant with a knife or gun by socking said assailant with your fist hard enough to knock said assailant through st. peter’s gate, it ought to be considered the assailant’s risk not yours. this is not talking about beating up further on a fallen assailant of course.
I only said it will be used against you in court if you scratch one of “Obama’s sons” and the Jury buys that you traumatized the kid just as he was "turning his life around".
Familiy member spent years married to one.
Problem-free guy, except maniacal driver. They parted amicably, no fuss divorce. Think he had to go back to India for family reasons.
The guy just had NYC deposit 250,000 into his bank account. And got abusive to the guy working nightshift at the gas station. And what special kind of moron thinks the CLERK at the gas station has any access to the ATM?
Freakin’ nouveau riche, always boorish.
LOL! Maybe his broker just told him he couldn’t possibly live off the interest of only $250K.
He will be sued for “using excessive force” Martial artists are always under that threat whether they are attacked or not. Even the best trained matial artist may have to use damaging force to protect themselves.
The poor guy will likely become yet more grist for the trampling mill of antisocial appeasement.
Illegal invader? I know plenty of people with names like that who are third generation Americans. How do you know he’s illegal? Nevermind - we know.
so silly. kick boxer to attacker with gun: “drop the gun or i will kick you to death.” attacker does not drop gun. kick boxer kicks attacker to death as promised. what’s the matter?
Yeah, we all know that’s what you meant.
I suspect there were also drugs up his nose which likely contributed to his death.......
As far as McDojos and pre-teen "black belts" ... SOME TKD schools are notorious for this ... I've heard schools like this called "Take Your Do" and "Partial Arts". We also call them "candy shops"
Oh,,it’s a safe bet if you are honest about it. And third generation? I’ll skip the joke about the 33 year old Abuelas ive met. Racism is funny (odd) sometimes. For example, your racism leads you to side WITH someone because of their race.
But no, im not a racist, im a culturalist. And i think he was classically representing the ethos of the homeland. Either PR or Mexico. I do not think those cultures are as good as the American one i grew up in.
No problem with me. Anyone who puts a gun (or knife) within my reach will find that it is now my gun in less than a second
But it’s not because of race as you so defiantly assume. For example, i’m very pleased with the nice guy from Mumbai. I’d welcome him as a neighbor or friend any day.
More of some cultures, less of others.
And my other small minded rule is that if you come here, you may bring your music, food, literature, and holidays. But you must leave all the old world squabbles at home. I could give a flying fornication what injustice occurred in Kosovo in 1488, or why hutus hate the tutsis. That doesnt belong in America.
Oh, and you have to agree that your women are fair game.
See?? I’m a reasonable fella.
Sikhs are also people who have honor killed their daughters in Britain and blew up Air India Flight 182 off the coast of Ireland, killing 329 people.
Not to mention assassinating the prime minister of India.
Almost all Sikhs will tell you that this was sick
It would save so much wasted time with defibrillators, sticking on the pads and analyzing rhythm.
Criminal gangs in Vancouver too. And the owners of a company where my husband used to work, who ran it as an H1-B funnel until it tanked.
Yeah, there are clean, honest, decent Sikhs, very many of them.
They just don’t qualify as a model minority in my mind.
No subgroup of Homo sapiens could fit the qualification you ask. Fallenness means no such thing exists. And so what. Sikhs as a whole rival most other minority groups of the USA for decency. Anyhow. Did this fellow misbehave by kicking his assailant to death. Even the cops concluded no.
Well the precordial thump known to Western medicine is a version of this. What would be a very interesting story is how this was ever researched by the martial artists. Did they have persons that they considered low lifes to experiment upon? Killing then reviving?
Jasjeet Walia. Oh dear, a Sikh kickboxer. And Mumbai is pretty big on kickboxing, so if he was competitive...
Something is odd here. Here is a nearly identical article, except that the kickboxer’s name is given as “Jesse Singh” (still a Sikh name).
A big THANK YOU from this Floridian to Jasjeet Walia for taking out the trash, so we in Florida would not be obligated!
My hope is Fat Al and Jesse Jester don’t show up and try to Zimmerman Jasjeet.