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Few Getting Free State ID Cards (FREE Voter IDs in PA !)
The Daily Item ^ | 08 Sep 2012 | Ashley Wislock

Posted on 09/08/2012 8:43:07 AM PDT by tomkat

SUNBURY — Although state officials estimate that thousands of residents of the Central Susquehanna Valley lack valid identification under the new state Voter ID law, fewer than 60 in three Valley counties have been issued secure identification cards, according to state Department of Transportation spokeswoman Jan McKnight . . .

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As of Tuesday, according to McKnight, the IDs and counties are as follows: Northumberland, 42; Montour, 5; and Union, 10 . . .

The free IDs are part of the state’s push to make sure registered voters are able to cast ballots on the heels of the March voter ID law, McKnight said . . .

Valid identification for voting includes not only valid driver’s licenses, but also driver’s licenses that have expired within the past 12 months, McKnight said. “People with (those) will not qualify for a free ID,” she said . . .

While PennDOT estimated that more than 3,700 voters in Northumberland County — and more than 700,000 people statewide — did not have a PennDOT identification card, the discrepancy in the numbers may be because those individuals had other acceptable forms of identification, or simply chose not to get a valid identification, McKnight said.

(more at link)

1 posted on 09/08/2012 8:43:10 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: FReepers
In other words, even when IDs are FREE, thousands and thousands won't go to the trouble of getting one !

We may yet disappoint everyone, but this is one of the factors that may bring PA back into the sanity column on 06 November.

/.02

2 posted on 09/08/2012 8:45:18 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: tomkat
On a related note:

Requiring photo ID is “racist,” except when it’s done by the NAACP, Eric Holder’s Justice Department, unions, Obama’s campaign events, and other liberal organizations

3 posted on 09/08/2012 8:48:57 AM PDT by grundle
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To: tomkat

My guess is there are a lot of 0bama voters that don’t want to apply for an officially issued state ID card because it might be discovered that they have some outstanding warrants, haven’t made their child support payments, etc., etc.


4 posted on 09/08/2012 8:49:17 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: FReepers; admin
Sorry y'all, I'm not clear on the myriad excerpting rules these days.

All the stuff in my #1 above is from the linked article.

5 posted on 09/08/2012 8:49:36 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: tomkat

The people who can legally vote have a photo Id. The laws for photo Id are put in place to stop the vote early vote often organized left.


6 posted on 09/08/2012 8:50:36 AM PDT by barmag25
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To: tomkat

Turnout in Philly will be the usual 120 percent of registered voters.


7 posted on 09/08/2012 8:51:41 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: grundle
However, at that very same event, the NAACP required photo ID in order to get into the event in the first place.

Thanks for the link              



8 posted on 09/08/2012 8:55:26 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: smokingfrog

Excellent point ! !


9 posted on 09/08/2012 8:55:48 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: Farmer Dean

I’d like to see Gov.Corbett mobilize the PA National Guard to ride shotgun on polling places in Philthy and Da’burgh.


10 posted on 09/08/2012 8:59:52 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: tomkat

It is obvious that these inflated estimates of people who lack a photo ID are wrong. The same held true in Kansas after it passed its tough voter ID bill. This is just more nonsense from the Left. Very few people in this country lack a photo ID.


11 posted on 09/08/2012 9:04:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: smokingfrog
My guess is there are a lot of 0bama voters that don’t want to apply for an officially issued state ID card because it might be discovered that they have some outstanding warrants, haven’t made their child support payments, etc., etc.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

12 posted on 09/08/2012 9:05:56 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: smokingfrog
My guess is there are a lot of 0bama voters that don’t want to apply for an officially issued state ID card because it might be discovered that they have some outstanding warrants, haven’t made their child support payments, etc., etc.

Hadn't thought of that. And of course the felon vote is an important Obama voting bloc.

13 posted on 09/08/2012 9:06:02 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: tomkat

“In other words, even when IDs are FREE, thousands and thousands won’t go to the trouble of getting one “

“Free” doesn’t mean a thing unless the issuer is willing to come directly to the lazy-ass whiners and pay them to take it. Otherwise they can keep complaining that the “inconvenience” somehow infringes on their rights.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 9:15:18 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: tomkat
Corbett? Do something?

What color is the sky in your world?

15 posted on 09/08/2012 9:19:55 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: freeangel
That does seem to be the way, don't it ? !

(preferably with a pizza and a 6pk   ;-)

16 posted on 09/08/2012 9:21:18 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: LoveUSA

You preferred Rendell in yours ?


17 posted on 09/08/2012 9:24:26 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: grundle

Still pimpin’ eh?


18 posted on 09/08/2012 9:34:54 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: tomkat

Can’t the volunteers bring the machines and whatever is necessary to make the ID cards to events so that people who don’t have an id can get one. Both Republicans and Democrats are in the same boat with regards to elderly especially who lose their driver’s licenses when they can no longer driver. This seems to me to be the best option for everyone.


19 posted on 09/08/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: tomkat
There is one - and only one - reason for objecting to requiring an ID for voting. YOU PLAN TO CHEAT.
20 posted on 09/08/2012 9:37:07 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: grundle

Why not post the FR link to that article that you posted?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2926411/posts


21 posted on 09/08/2012 9:37:48 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: tomkat

700,000 statewide? Ain’t no way.

There’s a WHOLE lotta smoke being blown...


22 posted on 09/08/2012 9:41:25 AM PDT by moovova (Hope-ium...Time to kick the habit.)
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To: tomkat

Here in South Carolina, not only are the IDs free, but our Governor Nikki Haley even set up a toll free 800 number to be called if you don’t have transportation to the DMV. I don’t remember the exact number, but it got very few calls.

Our law is modeled after Indiana’s which has already withstood a Supreme Court case.

And, guess what, Holder and His People still found our law to be lacking.


23 posted on 09/08/2012 9:42:30 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: upchuck; napscoordinator
Most importantly, McKnight said prospective ID seekers should call PennDOT’s voter ID hotline at 1-800-932-4600 or visit dmv.state.pa.us to make sure they either don’t have a valid form of ID and that they bring the necessary documents to the photo licensing center for identity verification.

“There is information available,” she said. “Please find out if you need to come to the center before you make the trip. You may already have what you need to vote.”

24 posted on 09/08/2012 9:48:10 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: tomkat

Hardly surprising, this, seeing that in rural counties one pretty much needs a car, and thus a driver’s license — add to that needing photo ID to cash checks or buy really functional decongestants, and pretty much no one needs an ID specially issued to vote.


25 posted on 09/08/2012 10:25:00 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: tomkat

The new congress and administration should pass a national “social Security” card issue in which Americans have until 2014 to get a new (and free) updated social security card, with a security strip, and a photo. It would take the same info to get one as it takes to get, or renew, drivers licenses in most states, I.e. birth certificate, proof of address, etc.

Those not meeting age requirements to receive SS, would lose benefits for non-compliance.

Then, in order to vote, you would have to present these cards.

All eligible would comply to keep their benefits coming, those that are not, don’t vote.

It smacks of a “nationali.d. Card”, but would be a viable workaround for voter I.d. And we might catch some illegals in the process. We already have to present drivers licenses or two forms if ID to do most everything else anyway.

Those who are eligible, and honest, shouldn’t have any problem with such.

With the mass invasion of illegals we have, it may be the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.


26 posted on 09/08/2012 10:35:00 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: moovova

Maybe that reflects some knowledgeable guy’s info about how many fraudulent votes there we’re in the last election.

HF


27 posted on 09/08/2012 10:40:35 AM PDT by holden
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To: upchuck

People in Indian who do not have Identification can votes with a probitionary ballot. Personally took an individual the day after the election to get her ID. Then we grocery shopped at a larger store then she normally goes to (better prices) and stopped by the court house to trigger her votes.

AND she was a liberal democrat.

There are many who will help if it is truly needed.


28 posted on 09/08/2012 10:54:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: upchuck

UH Indiana


29 posted on 09/08/2012 10:55:22 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: holden

BINGO

People are not going to get multiple identifications.


30 posted on 09/08/2012 10:58:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: tomkat

If Bambi is behind prior to the election, we will need the Guard.


31 posted on 09/08/2012 11:11:22 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: tomkat

The rest are waiting for the beer and smokes filled limo filled to drive them there.


32 posted on 09/08/2012 11:17:44 AM PDT by bgill
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To: tomkat
In other words, even when IDs are FREE, thousands and thousands won't go to the trouble of getting one !

When dems do voter fraud they vote the people who don't show up to vote. The dead accidentally get caught up in that vote because they NEVER show up to vote.

When the FBI chooses to stop voter fraud they can add fake names to the roles - in inner cities in swing states - and other radom polling places. All they have to do then is check how many of the fake 'voters' voted.

Maybe O'Keefe could set up surveillance cameras outside likly polling fraud centers and count the number of people who vote compared to official tallies.

33 posted on 09/08/2012 11:55:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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To: tomkat

34 posted on 09/08/2012 12:03:48 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
About 300 people statewide have been issued special Department of State voter ID cards, which can be used only for voting, McKnight said.

County totals for those cards were not available.

A veritable stampede of the 'disenfranchised' for those free cards, huh ? !

35 posted on 09/08/2012 12:11:53 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: hoosiermama

Did you mean provisional ballot?

Typically provisional ballots only come into play during an extremely close race. And they can usually be challenged.


36 posted on 09/08/2012 12:11:59 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: FrankR
In this electronic age when there might be a few thousand people managing to live 'off the grid' in terms of leaving an identity footprint, the old "National ID" bogeyman might've outlived its scaremongering potential and become essentially moot.

My major reservations with your suggestion are that, given the gooberment we're saddled with, the bill would come in at 5x projections and be a massive national CF.

You think the faux uproar from the vote fraudsters (aka Dhimms) is bad now, float the idea to revamp the entire thing, making it completely waterproof !

37 posted on 09/08/2012 12:18:58 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: The_Reader_David

I hear a monthly ad on the radio from a rural county that is saying the commodity give away is upcoming and a photo ID will be required to recieve the cheese and stuff. I guess those ‘poor’ folk don’t have a problem. The same county will NOT provide translaters if one is needed.
I think it has been like that for years now.


38 posted on 09/08/2012 12:19:23 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: upchuck
Yes, spell check rolled again.

Maybe we do ours differently. Granted they do come in play in an extremely close race, but so that no vote is eliminated the vote is counted if proper documentation is presented within ten days. Maybe that's why the SCOTUS smiled on Indiana.
They are kept in the clerk's office. Each in its own separate envelope. When the voter returns with proper identification, it is opened, counted and added to the final tally.

39 posted on 09/08/2012 12:36:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: tomkat

Its a fake issue to start with


40 posted on 09/08/2012 12:46:53 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: barmag25

Similar to my first thought. No one is applying because no one NEEDS one - anyone reasonably functioning in society already has one.


41 posted on 09/08/2012 1:31:06 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: upchuck

We are allowed to cite one link if it’s relevant.


42 posted on 09/08/2012 2:16:01 PM PDT by grundle
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To: tomkat
There is no real way for even the Philly Dems to convince the dead to crawl from the grave and get an ID to vote.

2,000 ID cards going to the same address, (some Union office), will nudge even the Penn DOT that something might be fishy.

In Chicago, tho, that would be SOP...

43 posted on 09/08/2012 4:26:13 PM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: jonascord
I honestly think (hope) the ID law is going to make a difference this time.

Won't cure it, but it might be juuuust enough.

44 posted on 09/08/2012 4:32:19 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: tomkat

funny how the elft said that there were so many without photo ID’s and like my wife said.”if they cannot be bothered getting an ID then why would the left think they could be bothered voting”


45 posted on 09/08/2012 4:37:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: smokingfrog

LOL


46 posted on 09/08/2012 4:37:37 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Farmer Dean

did the GOP ever look into that and of so what happened please?


47 posted on 09/08/2012 4:38:22 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: tomkat
The Democrats will sue, claiming that because they did not get as many votes as in years past, it therefore constitutes proof that the requirement for IDs inhibited voter participation. They should ask the judge for a specific number of votes as compensation, just to make things "fair."

Think of as equivalent to affirmative action among political parties.

48 posted on 09/08/2012 11:22:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
The courts have already, repeatedly, upheld the PA Voter ID law.

To my knowledge, no other challenges are either in process or forthcoming.

49 posted on 09/09/2012 4:15:53 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat
To my knowledge, no other challenges are either in process or forthcoming.

I did a cursory search for voter ID lawsuits in 2012 and found cases in TX, NC, SC, WI, TN, OK, MN, OH, AZ, KS, & VA without even trying. It doesn't mean they're all active, but it does mean that it isn't over.

50 posted on 09/09/2012 7:45:04 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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