Skip to comments.Iran Planning To Attack U.S. Warships In The Persian Gulf
Posted on 09/08/2012 9:46:04 AM PDT by Fennie
A senior commander of the Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) said the US navy is deeply fearful of Iran's naval power in the Persian Gulf, and added that Iran will not leave the US warships undamaged in case of a military move against the country.
"I assure you that if the US warships do a foolish action, they won't leave the area (regional waters) unhurt," Commander of the IRGC Navy Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi said in a gathering in Iran's Northeastern holy city of Mashhad on Wednesday.
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Don't bet on it.
don’t you remember the Obama quote - if things get tough he’d side with the Muslims.
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to nations that actually had a somewhat comparable naval force.....Iran has two row boats and several kayaks. The attack on the ship in Yeman should have NEVER happened. When our ships are deployed anywhere, there should be an inviolable perimeter around them....that should be enforced either by on board firepower or our own small craft. It's time to stop fooling around with the idiots of the world...I think Romney will do that and I don't think Obama will (hasn't yet)
You should be thinking "Battle of Salamis." This is what the Iranians are attempting to do, IMO. Lure the large US blue water fleet close to the coast so that they can whack them with all manner of asymmetrical threats - everything from anti-ship missles, mines and agile speedboats.
The USN wargamed this a few years ago by putting a Marine general in charge of the Green Force (Iran). The USN lost by its own assessment of the wargame. Not saying that this will happen in real life. One of the reasons that you wargame is to expose holes in you own warplan. Evidently the Marine, thinking unconventionally, did just that.
An aircraft carrier would be incredibly difficult to actually sink. They could manage a “mission kill”, inflicting lots of casualties while knocking a major ship out of action for many years.
If the Argentines had properly fused their bombs several of those RN ships on the damaged list would have been sunk. One of those vagaries of war.
if we have ships in the persian gulf, not outside but within air strike range, and if the iranians are willing to take severe losses just in the attack. it’s easy to sink a us naval vessel.
1. put a submarine in the area. doesn’t have to be close but a diesel boat in gulf waters is hard to detect so 1D has to be covered.
2. put some planes in the AO, just outside shipboard SAM range and carrying ASMs. 2D has to be covered.
3. attack from a 3rd, 4th, and 5th axis with multiple surface missile boats and suicide boghammers. 3D has to be covered.
4. wake up one morning and do it. no advanced warning, no threats.
5. go for the outriders and not the main target. sinking any us navy ship is a major coup.
6. screw any geopolitical consequences or loss of iranian civilians.
one ship or even a couple of ships without air cover cannot cover all 3 sectors adequately if attacked on multiple axis simultaneously. even a 90% success rate will have leakers.
this is basically how the PLAN (chinese navy) pland to attack our carrier battle groups. even eliminating a couple of escorts seriously weakens the overal defense plan.
It's possible my analysis might be wrong. We recently expended the USS Armerica in a major SinkEx. The old carrier was subjected to several attackes before it went down. But the results are classified, so we're all pretty much guessing.
The USN does push CVA's and LHA/LHD's into the Gulf. If we were looking for an attack we might pull the flattops out. But my guess is that the Iranian's would be allowed the first shot.
If American ships are attacked by Iran Obama will have no choice but to counter-attack or be besieged in his own White House.
The American people would not put up with that BS even if Obama is Muslim and Black.
The mission to deny the Argentinians access to additional Exocets is one of the greatest intelligence victories of that era. The British government convinced the French to provide them with data on the missiles' codes and homing radar (which allowed the Brits to decoy a number of them away from their targets) and they established dummy international arms dealerships to lure the Argentinians away from real dealers who might have access to Exocets. The French also came through by "delaying" a shipment of Exocets to Peru after learning that the missiles were to be resold to Argentina.
Remember the Argentinians sunk a five billion dollar British destroyer with a $250,000 dollar Exocet missile.
To my way of thinking the only real threat to a large deck CVA (actually sinking it) would be from a large, heavy-weight torpedo designed to snap a keel. A mine could do the same thing, but a carrier isn’t likely to be steaming over a minefield — except perhaps in the Gulf. Hammering away at aircraft carriers with bombs, kamikazes and so forth may kill a lot of crewmen and take the carrier out of battle. But the vessel itself is a very compartmentalized and the crews are (supposed to be) well versed in damage control.
USS Franklin, USS Forestall, USS Enterprise, USS Oriskany... all these ships suffered devastating attacks and fires and all survived.
Several US carriers lost in WW2 were actually sunk by our own cruisers & destroyers because they were dead in the water. But they were still afloat. Given the lengths the US went to to repair that destroyer hit in Aden, I’d say we aren’t going to finish off one of our own carriers. Very bad for morale.
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