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Romney: 'I will not take God out of our platform'
The Hill ^ | September 8, 2012 | Jeremy Herb

Posted on 09/08/2012 2:23:49 PM PDT by Kaslin

Mitt Romney weighed in for the first time on the Democratic platform initially removing the word “God," saying that was something he would never do.

Romney began a campaign appearance in Virginia Beach, Va. on Saturday by reciting the Pledge of Allegiance before turning to the platform controversy.

“That pledge says “under God,” and I will not take God out of our platform,” Romney said to cheers. “I will not take God off our coins, and I will not take God out of my heart.”

During their convention in Charlotte, the Democrats' platform was changed from 2008 to remove references to God. But after criticism, party leaders decided Wednesday to put God back into their platform — but not before one of the most awkward moments of their convention.

The Democrats proposed an amendment both to reinsert God and a clause stating Jerusalem was the capital of Israel — which also was criticized after it was removed — but it took the Democrats three voice votes to actually approve the change, as the “yay” votes were met with near equal opposition with loud “nos” and some boos. The president's campaign said Obama called for “God” and “Jerusalem” to be re-inserted into the platform when he learned they had been removed.

On Saturday the Obama campaign called Romney's comments divisive and untrue.

“It’s disappointing to see Mitt Romney try to throw a Hail Mary by launching extreme and untrue attacks against the President and associating with some of the most strident and divisive voices in the Republican Party, including Rep. Steve King and Pat Robertson," Obama campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith said in a statement. In his campaign speech in Virginia, a military-heavy state that’s a big battleground, Romney also focused on defense issues and the impending sequestration cuts.

Romney touted his plan to boost shipbuilding and to roll back the reduction of 100,000 service members that are included in the Pentagon’s 2013 budget, which starts a 10-year $487 billion reduction.

“I will not cut our military. I will maintain our military commitment,” Romney said.

The GOP nominee also declared that he would not allow the sequestration cuts to occur, although they are currently law and would take effect Jan. 2, three weeks before Romney would be sworn into office.

Romney criticized President Obama for sequestration, touting a detail from Bob Woodward’s new book on the debt-limit negotiations that says the White House came up with the idea.

Romney cited industry studies that say the sequestration cuts, which would reduce the defense budget by $492 billion over the next decade, would cost Virginia between 100,000 and 200,000 jobs.

Both Republicans and Democrats, including Obama, do not want the sequestration cuts to occur, but the two parties are deadlocked over how to replace the sequestration cuts.

Sequestration, which was included in the 2011 Budget Control Act approved by Congress and signed by the president, became law when the supercommittee failed last November to agree on a deficit-reduction plan.

The issue has spilled into the campaign — particularly in states like Virginia — with Romney and Republicans blaming Obama for the potential cuts. Obama has responded by accusing Republicans of allowing the military cuts to occur in order to protect tax cuts for the wealthy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: romney; romneyandgod; va2012; virginiabeach

1 posted on 09/08/2012 2:23:52 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

We need an Act Of God to get rid of the current regime.
God are you listening—Hello


2 posted on 09/08/2012 2:27:33 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Kaslin
In all fairness to the DemocRATS, they had to remove God from their platform to make room for Barry and Allah.
3 posted on 09/08/2012 2:28:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (On 5 September 2012 A.D., the communist Democrats tried to kill God and failed.)
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To: Kaslin

Romney is running a soft, mccain like capaign which is why were down 3 instead of up 10....


4 posted on 09/08/2012 2:32:55 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: Kaslin

Romney is running a soft, mccain like capaign which is why were down 3 instead of up 10....


5 posted on 09/08/2012 2:32:55 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: Kaslin

“That pledge says “under God,” and I will not take any of our Gods out of our platform,” Romney said to cheers. “I will not take any of our Gods off our coins, and I will not take any Gods out of my heart. Heck, I’m going to be a God.”

And so it goes...


6 posted on 09/08/2012 2:35:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: teg_76

Yep


7 posted on 09/08/2012 2:36:01 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: teg_76

You are FOS as usual.


8 posted on 09/08/2012 2:37:31 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A bit off topic...but is Bubba bowing and mocking Ubama?


9 posted on 09/08/2012 2:38:19 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: newfreep

Or it could be that, now that Red China owns most of America, shaking hands has been replaced with bowing. A “fundament transformation” thing.


10 posted on 09/08/2012 2:41:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (On 5 September 2012 A.D., the communist Democrats tried to kill God and failed.)
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To: teg_76

You absolutely want that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave get reelected. Don’t you?


11 posted on 09/08/2012 2:42:50 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Given what Romney believes about God, I don’t want him talking about God, either.


12 posted on 09/08/2012 2:43:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Perdogg

You said it


13 posted on 09/08/2012 2:43:48 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: teg_76

No Romney is not not running a soft campaign at all, if he was, Obama wouldn’t hate him the way Obama does. When Obama critized Romney for insulting our Alies during the Olympics, and said he would hate to see Romney negotiating with China because of his lack of tact, Romney said that he was very successful dealing with the Olympics, and he was right to speak up and Romney also added that it is good to show some back-bone, especially with China on their unfair trade practices. How about that? Or is someone just making things up because they have already made their mind up and the truth no longer matters. Romney is successful in business FOR A REASON!


14 posted on 09/08/2012 2:44:33 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: newfreep

It's a bow off between the Dem-i gods!

15 posted on 09/08/2012 2:46:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: rodeo-mamma

Romney says a lot of things. He’s known as a flip-flopper FOR A REASON too!


16 posted on 09/08/2012 2:48:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A “fundaMENTAL transformation” thing.

I hate it when that happens.

17 posted on 09/08/2012 2:48:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (On 5 September 2012 A.D., the communist Democrats tried to kill God and failed.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Romney won’t take God out of his platform.

Ain’t Romney so special.

Wait, wait.

He comes the flip-flop.


18 posted on 09/08/2012 3:04:22 PM PDT by Truth101A
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; little jeremiah
Is the following all true? I don't know, but it will be an interesting study...and a difficult one in efforts to find clear, objective and honestly written documents.

Mormons and the State of Israel (Wikipedia)
The LDS Church is officially neutral when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Mormons, as well as many Jews, are also in favor of peaceful coexistence between Jewish and non-Jewish (Muslim and/or Christian) Arabs in the Holy Land. The LDS Church considers non-Jewish Arabs to be children of Abraham. The LDS Church does not take sides in the Arab-Palestinian conflict, and BYU's Middle Eastern Studies and Arabic majors are known for avid pro-Palestinian activism.[citation needed]


19 posted on 09/08/2012 3:07:40 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; little jeremiah

More direct link to the excerpted part. And no, I am certainly not anti-Mormonism. This is the USA (re. First Amendment and religious freedom). Only curious about the religion’s position on the matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Judaism#Mormons_and_the_State_of_Israel


20 posted on 09/08/2012 3:10:44 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: teg_76

21 posted on 09/08/2012 3:14:30 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU hussein)
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To: familyop

The LDS is officially a lot of things that scads of Mormons don’t actually follow along with.

Mitt, he’s anybody’s huckleberry if that gets him a political boost. Mitt is silly putty, not backbone. It probably will come to pass that the dogmatic Marxist will lose to the silly putty, but everybody needs to be ready to deal with the silly putty.


22 posted on 09/08/2012 4:29:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Good reasoning in your comment and well said. Some of my aunts, uncles and cousins were in and out of RLDS, but I don’t know much about it. As for politics, agreed also on that.

I see too many regulations against production from every level of government, from NGOs and individuals behind government, and have doubts that any likely political changes will stop the default process caused by favored constituencies getting what they demand (big spending on regulations, social pushes and debt flows). So I see a rare opportunity to see the political/regulator class fall from leadership for lack of revenues.

Maybe several presidents have unwittingly (and some maybe wittingly) helped us on the way to small government: bond collapse, default, repudiation and currency adjustment. Without valuable revenues from manufacturing, regulations and social efforts against small manufacturing operations and families will be unenforced and maybe, eventually abolished.

I don’t see any political solution to economic problems or social diseases. Our country is too mobbed-up by the unproductive and counterproductive, IMO, and many members of the mob are well paid from debt to prevent production.


23 posted on 09/08/2012 4:54:22 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: Perdogg

I must be slow today. I didnt know what FOS meant so I looked it up....”father over shoulder”...”from outer space”...”figure of speech”...”funky old soul”...”fit or split”...Oh, now I get it.


24 posted on 09/08/2012 5:28:18 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: Truth101A; TigersEye

I think we can all agree that Romney wasnt our 1st choice. So we can either sit here and bash Romney or we can do everything in our power to make sure the Kenyan doesnt get a second term.


25 posted on 09/08/2012 5:33:05 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Mitt is a true and dedicated Mormon, and you need to quit lying about that.

Mitt did not earn his position and power with the religion, and the approval of the Qurom of 70, and the personal, in person approval of his Pope, for this presidential run, by not being a good and faithful Mormon, in fact, a Temple Mormon.


26 posted on 09/08/2012 5:45:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: rodeo-mamma

He has grown as a person, he has convictions otherwise he wouldn’t have been successful, that Flip flopper comment is planted by the DNC who has been trying to destroy Romney for the last 4 years. Romney has evolved, he stuck to his guns and was a good Governor, he had a very good record, and was successful as a Governor, and he didn’t take a paycheck for his service either. That doesn’t sound like a flip flopper, that sounds like someone with very strong beliefs and character. But don’t let that stop you with your Anti-Romney-DNC propoganda. ````


27 posted on 09/08/2012 5:46:34 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: mouse1

That’s all they can do is whine. They never say for whom they want win only for whom they are against. They do this every election cycle, in fact most of them rarely post, and only during the election and complain about the GOP nominee.


28 posted on 09/08/2012 6:11:20 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: mouse1

Or we can face the fact that we’re headed towards subjugation and/or CWII no matter what and start thinking about how we’re going to handle that.


29 posted on 09/08/2012 6:19:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: rodeo-mamma
...that Flip flopper comment is planted by the DNC who has been trying to destroy Romney for the last 4 years.

I'm sure you think that about this post and poster too.

30 posted on 09/08/2012 6:23:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ansel12

True and dedicated to something that is a wad of self contradictions.


31 posted on 09/08/2012 7:00:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: teg_76

“Romney is running a soft, mccain like capaign which is why were down 3 instead of up 10....”

Wrong. They are doing fine so far.


32 posted on 09/08/2012 7:01:57 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: mouse1

fulla shinola


33 posted on 09/08/2012 7:07:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

They are a cult, and they are fluid and legalistic at the same time, difficult to pin down because their goal is not purity with God, or true understanding of his words, their goal is to win numbers and income, and power through gaining members.

Romney is a true and devoted Mormon, a stellar Mormon.

Here he tells a more simple person that they are mistaken about the church’s position on abortion, and Mitt is correct in this exchange, this is a good cult member in action.

“Governor Mitt Romney: I’m not distancing myself from my faith.
Governor Mitt Romney: I’m proud of my faith. There is nothing I distance myself from. There are Mormons in the leadership of my Church who are pro-choice, and they do not violate that. Your not a lawyer, but you have to read that a little bit more carefully.”


34 posted on 09/08/2012 7:15:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: rodeo-mamma
He has grown as a person, he has convictions otherwise he wouldn’t have been successful, that Flip flopper comment is planted by the DNC who has been trying to destroy Romney for the last 4 years. Romney has evolved

Call it flip flopping or "evolving", but 2 weeks ago he went back to being pro-abortion.

35 posted on 09/08/2012 7:18:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

And so, this means that Mitt could take many a tack and still call himself “Mormon.” Being a people pleasing mush is not at all in logical discord with that.


36 posted on 09/08/2012 7:19:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: ansel12

That’s the waffle of two weeks ago. What was the waffle of last week? Of this week?


37 posted on 09/08/2012 7:19:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, I keep trying to explain to you that Bishop Romney, son of a Bishop, and the patriarch of 170 years of Mormon royalty, is a very devout, devoted, and respected Mormon, absolutely true to his cult and it’s teachings.

Mitt is following Mormon teachings on abortion, he always has.


38 posted on 09/08/2012 7:36:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

Can you find a coherent teaching to present as globally representative of Mormon policy? I say you cannot. To further flummox the situation, the LDS in Salt Lake City always seem to get officially updates from their “god” when convenient to get them out of embarrassing situations.


39 posted on 09/09/2012 6:55:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: ansel12

And my point is, Mitt could do jolly well whatever he wished about abortion and find something in LDS policy, or wangle a divine update, to cover for it.

This is a far cry from any proof or demonstration that the LDS is the tail that wags his dog in a definite direction.

This leaves the situation the same as I said. Mitt can be publicly pressured into doing just about anything, and he’d never ever say it was being un-Mormon.


40 posted on 09/09/2012 7:09:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m not sure what you are saying there, but Romney never goes against his religion, and he can’t wrangle a divine update, his Prophet does that.

Mitt has the full support of the leadership of his religion and will never betray his faith.


41 posted on 09/09/2012 8:31:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

His faith to us mere earthlings looks a lot like a nod and wink wild card.

Mormons, like Mitt, can waffle with impunity.

And so if the church looks like it’s going to get embarrassed by a change in popular mores? That’s when the “Prophet” kicks in and wangles a new dispensation or whatever. Of COURSE it’s all phony. I’m just saying there also seems to be even less substantive content to it than most would believe.


42 posted on 09/09/2012 8:35:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I see it as a typical cult built to produce income, a business wearing the veneer of a religion that creates and shapes good worker bees for it.


43 posted on 09/09/2012 8:45:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

And that may be the size of it. It doesn’t really have the power or motive to force even a high profile member to take a certain social policy stance, as long as it gets its share of the lettuce. If anything that is disappointing, because almost always the charm offensive of the LDS is that they are for clean living. If all Mormon politicians were expected to take that line on pain of being kicked out, America would be a somewhat more civilized place to live. But it also doesn’t make the LDS into a menace that will, say, force Mitt to go easy on abortion for doctrine’s sake.


44 posted on 09/09/2012 8:51:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: ansel12

And hey, does the LDS, if a selfish racket that wants as many worker bees as it can get, really want more abortion in America? Wouldn’t that mean fewer people from which to recruit?


45 posted on 09/09/2012 8:53:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You just don’t get it, Mormonism is not pro-life, and Mormonism does not tolerate any Mormon straying from church teachings that is why Mitt Romney had to excommunicate people.

Bishop Romney is a super Mormon,he is spiritually elite, he is a member of the most devout and obedient 15% of Mormons, he is not a weak or indifferent Mormon he is the opposite, he is a fanatical Mormon.


46 posted on 09/09/2012 9:10:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

And that faith is in exactly what then. If teachings can vary at the toss of dice.


47 posted on 09/11/2012 6:07:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m not clear on what you mean, what teachings vary at the toss of dice?


48 posted on 09/11/2012 6:45:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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