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Poll: Obama widens lead over Romney despite jobs data
Reuters ^ | 9/8/2012 | Alina Selyukh

Posted on 09/08/2012 4:33:59 PM PDT by libh8er

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To: nhwingut

Romney is down within the margin of error and their packing it in.. shessh.


51 posted on 09/08/2012 5:35:23 PM PDT by scbison
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To: utahagen

“My plan is to vote for Romney, and let the chips fall where they may. I am at peace. If Obama should win, it’s over.”

_Exactly_. FR never liked MR, but that was during the primary season and it’s time to get over it. People on here who continue to run him into the ground and claim that Newt Gingrich was electable are falling for the DNC Kool Aid, which is to demoralize you so you don’t go out and vote.

You don’t want to see Barry reelected. You really don’t. There is no telling what he has planned for his second term. Abolish term limits and rule as an emperor for the next 30 years? Make another push at single payer HC? Who knows. I would rather not find out.


52 posted on 09/08/2012 5:36:50 PM PDT by Strk321
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To: profit_guy

And too many people on this site are falling for it..


53 posted on 09/08/2012 5:37:12 PM PDT by scbison
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To: libh8er
Obama increased his lead over Romney in certain favorable characteristics. Asked who was more "eloquent," 50 percent of the 1,720 registered voters questioned in the poll favored Obama, compared to 25 percent for Romney. Asked about being "smart enough for the job," 46 percent sided with Obama compared to 37 percent for Romney.

In fact, Obama led Romney in a dozen such favorable characteristics, such as "represents America" or "has the right values." The only such category in which Romney had an advantage was being "a man of faith," as 44 percent picked Romney, who is Mormon, compared to 31 percent for Obama, who is Christian.

I want to see the internals on this poll but I'll take it from these comments above that this poll was very heavily sampled toward Democrats......

54 posted on 09/08/2012 5:38:23 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: libh8er

These “polls’ are nothing but camouflage so that when the Ratz and commie pigs steal the election, they can use this BS for cover.


55 posted on 09/08/2012 5:39:37 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: thingumbob; All

i went to the Ipsos main site- they don’t even have this poll on their main page...last poll they have is from yesterday

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/us/2012-election/

oh, and btw- if you click on to their poll from Friday there’s no polling data but the following claimer:

“The data were weighted to the U.S. current population data by gender, age, education, and ethnicity. Statistical margins of error are not applicable to online polls. All sample surveys and polls may be subject to other sources of error, including, but not limited to coverage error and measurement error. Figures marked by an asterisk (*) indicate a percentage value of greater than zero but less than one half of a per cent. Where figures do not sum to 100, this is due to =the effects of rounding.”

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=5758


56 posted on 09/08/2012 5:45:36 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America

This sounds like one of those You.gov “polls.”


57 posted on 09/08/2012 5:46:43 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: God luvs America
there’s no link in the story to the polling data...

Of course not. You think they want you to see the +20 point Democrat oversample???!?

Good old Reuters... the MSNBC of the news feed world.

58 posted on 09/08/2012 5:47:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Strk321
I agree 100%, and I believe Newt Gingrich would, too. The stakes never have been this high. If Obama wins, it's over.
59 posted on 09/08/2012 5:47:30 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: ilovesarah2012

I see lib friends on Facebook posting like mad with every cartoon, link, and story they can find that bashes Mitt while they swoon over Barry’s every move. They seem scared out of their minds.


60 posted on 09/08/2012 5:47:30 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: libh8er; CMailBag; melancholy; butterdezillion; TexasVoter; SunkenCiv; Impy; InterceptPoint; ...
Forty-seven percent of 1,457 likely voters surveyed online over the previous four days said they would vote for Obama>

Now how the heck can you survey "likely voters" on line and claim that they are a random national sample? First of all, the participants would all have to have Internet access. Secondly, those who participated with Internet access would have to have self-selected themselves by making their e-mail addresses available to the pollsters. And thirdly, even the people who were e-mailed by the pollster would have to have self-sected themselves further by choosing to answer in order to participate in the poll.

Knowing that the pollsters lean to the left, you would presume that the subjects participating in the poll who gave their e-mail addresses to them skew to the left as well, as compared to the general "likely voter" population.

In short, garbage in, garbage out, since the pool of respondents is far from a random sample of the "likely voter" electorate. The pollster's methodology is very questionable, in fact unacceptable, if the true purpose was to predict the outcome in November.

61 posted on 09/08/2012 5:49:34 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: hillarys cankles

It is sad and disheartening...

BUT WE MUST HAVE COURAGE AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN!!!

I am taking two personal days off just before the election so I can help out..man the phones, drive people to the polls, whatever! I will start to volunteer even earlier.
I want to wake up the next morning and feel like I really tried...no matter the outcome.


62 posted on 09/08/2012 5:50:30 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: libh8er

The polls are bullshit by the media to promote obama. I.e., the media manipulates them to favor obama.


63 posted on 09/08/2012 5:53:19 PM PDT by sport
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To: Strk321

And don’t forget the supreme court!

At least with MR and Ryan we have a chance. Nothing that they do that is awful could be worse than Obozo. We need the TIME —the next four years—to shore up the true conservatives, keep getting them elected and move the needle more and more to the right.


64 posted on 09/08/2012 5:53:36 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: justiceseeker93

since the poll is online only it sounds bogus. Anyone can create a fake IP address and vote. I remember during Dancing With The Stars, I would vote for Bristol Palin maybe 20-30 times, created fake email addresses and voted for her. Its not reliable, people can download this IP blocker that changes your IP address every single time so since its only surveyed online it can be easily messed with


65 posted on 09/08/2012 5:54:54 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Strk321

I am convinced that if Obama is re-elected(Since he will have nothing to lose) he will come out, congratulate himself for winning the election and say “Capitalism is dead, long live Communism” and the media will swoon for him


66 posted on 09/08/2012 5:58:29 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: libh8er

Actually, the worse things get the better it is for Obama. If we could just get to 100% unemployment, he would be unbeatable.


67 posted on 09/08/2012 5:58:57 PM PDT by stevem
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To: dfwgator

exactly..unemployed wont like losing freebees. not all but alot.


68 posted on 09/08/2012 6:00:05 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: LS
This poll is 1,457 likely voters surveyed online
69 posted on 09/08/2012 6:01:27 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: nhwingut

horse crap.


70 posted on 09/08/2012 6:03:46 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: LS

BTW, I agree with everything you said. Even the polls that try to show Obama leading also show he is losing support in every demographic. Both can’t be true so they just fudge the numbers so the lamestream media can report it.


71 posted on 09/08/2012 6:06:18 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I watched as much of the DNC convention as I could stomach. I wondered how many people would realize that what they were being fed was completely empty rhetoric. I live in an extremely liberal part of the country and work with a bunch of union members. People around here bought completely into the crap. Unfortunately both sides of the aisle expect that Western Washington is most likely going to Obama and dragging the rest of the state's electoral votes down with them.

It is depressing but the Democrats have taken every presidential election since 1984. Unfortunately, Romney is no Reagan. So I expect that this year will most likely be no exception. Fortunately, it is the battle ground states that matter and this liberal hot-spot will not determine the outcome of the election.

72 posted on 09/08/2012 6:08:34 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: utahagen

Amen - me too...


73 posted on 09/08/2012 6:08:34 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: libh8er

NOWHERE can I see the poll internals. PARTICULARLY the breakdown of Dim/Rep/Ind.

This is now becoming COMMON. The lame-stream polls have been exposed as over-sampling DIMS, and so now the bastards don’t give the poll internals!

DON’T BELIEVE THESE FAKE POLLS! THEY ARE TRYING TO DEPRESS US SO WE STAY HOME ON ELECTION DAY.


74 posted on 09/08/2012 6:11:27 PM PDT by ShovelThemOut
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To: libh8er; Perdogg

With the caveat that I don’t lend much credence to intrade, it is interesting to note that Obama has steadily declined on intrade since his speed. He was nearly 60 before his speech, and is now below 57. I guess the gamblers think the jobs data is bigger than the momentary bounce.


75 posted on 09/08/2012 6:16:58 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I think the future looks bright for the Republicans because they have all these rising young guys like Ryan, Rubio, Jindal, Scott Walker, etc. Who do the Democrats have? Almost all the guys speaking at the convention were old has-beens like Frank, Kerry, Clinton, Ted Strickland, and Biden.

Sometimes I ponder whether the GOP will in time be dominated by young libertarian types who were influenced by Ron Paul. In any case, the MSM was way off when they said in 2009 the Republican Party was a dying group of old white Christian racists. It seems to me that the Democrats are the guys stuck in the past, ie the big government socialism of the mid-20th century. 1965 called and it wants Obama back.


76 posted on 09/08/2012 6:20:15 PM PDT by Strk321
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To: LS

Thanks. 10:1 likes vs. dislikes. On YouTube. Not bad. The polls mean little right now. Follow the money. Romney did $100 million in August. Preezy’s camp has yet to release his. Wonder why. Not.


77 posted on 09/08/2012 6:21:07 PM PDT by eureka! (Bless Our Troops. D*mn the Left.)
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To: hillarys cankles
It makes me sad how politically ignorant my parents are.

My parents were democrats in the 40's but by the 60's were both Republicans.OTOH,my aunt...who just died a few years ago at the age of 95,was a democrat 'till the day she died.She was a *devout* Catholic...Mass *every* day,opposed to abortion,"gay" marriage,etc.But she still voted Rat.One day,during one of our discussions,I asked her why she voted Rat despite their positions on numerous issues...she replied "because they give me my Social Security".

Amazing!

78 posted on 09/08/2012 6:21:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Voter ID Equals "No Representation Without Respiration")
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To: libh8er

McCain did that better and still lost.


79 posted on 09/08/2012 6:22:28 PM PDT by yield 2 the right (2012, the election year that stinks!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

That right there is the danger of too many attached to the government for something.


80 posted on 09/08/2012 6:24:31 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: scbison

Not falling for it, just seeing the end result of GOP-E’s getting their way again.


81 posted on 09/08/2012 6:26:53 PM PDT by yield 2 the right (2012, the election year that stinks!)
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To: libh8er
“Rasmussen is pretty reliable and Obama is up in Rasmussen too.”

I have noticed if a poll says Hussein is ahead, Freppers say the poll is bogus. If Romney is ahead, Freepers say the poll is an honest one.

Who knows if polls are right or not.

82 posted on 09/08/2012 6:28:20 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You should have asked her how many pieces of silver her social security check can buy.


83 posted on 09/08/2012 6:29:43 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: libh8er
Ras overpolled Dems by +2 to guess at a convention bump.
Its BS too.

His other poll is in complete conflict with that robo call poll.

All these polls are pure crap.

The real internal polls would be nice to see .

84 posted on 09/08/2012 6:38:38 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: tobyhill

How many more ways can they throw the BS at us?

We may not have seen anything yet. The only limit is their collective imagination.


85 posted on 09/08/2012 6:52:41 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Woodsman27

Correcto!


86 posted on 09/08/2012 6:55:17 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: libh8er
I volunteered to do a telephone survey for a conservative nonprofit today and was amazed at the number of women who are for Obama. Unbelievable.

This is a newly formed congressional district that was once a Republican stronghold, but now includes a gerrymandered Democratic region.

We cannot rest on our laurels. Get out the vote.

87 posted on 09/08/2012 6:57:28 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: libh8er

By 2 points with a + /- 3 percent margin of error
so it would be tie wouldnt it?


88 posted on 09/08/2012 7:06:59 PM PDT by funfan
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To: justiceseeker93

BS


89 posted on 09/08/2012 7:15:12 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Strk321

good post!


90 posted on 09/08/2012 7:32:38 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: libh8er

I think the debates will either save us or sink us... and I so wish Romney would turn into a Newt for these debates. Obama lies like a pro... Too many don’t have any more sense than to believe what comes out of obama’s mouth.
I would like to ask Fox why do they play what the dems say when they know it isn’t true.. they are propagating the lie also. They could at least add a disclaimer.


91 posted on 09/08/2012 7:35:00 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: God luvs America
Thanks for that....

Wow...if this is what they have to resort to now just to put Obozo ahead, the white house internals must be devastating....

However, that won't stop me from going out as soon as the voting booth is open on election day to vote the b@st@rd and his idiot veep out.

92 posted on 09/08/2012 7:43:06 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Marcella

I have no way of finding out what the real poll says. I do, however, believe that Romney must be doing a LOT better than any poll shows. Every poll I have seen has a 3% to 5% difference. The polls cannot be that way all the time.


93 posted on 09/08/2012 7:56:57 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: libh8er

Surveyed “online”?

ONLINE????

Yes, it’s precisely that sort of “science” that Stalin used to prove the proles loved him.

In the vernacular, it’s known as “bull sh*t.”


94 posted on 09/08/2012 9:10:15 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: justiceseeker93

Exactly. They are getting desperate.


95 posted on 09/09/2012 12:06:56 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Obama Voters need to vote Wednesday Nov 7


96 posted on 09/09/2012 12:37:35 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: hillarys cankles

Yes, there a many dumb, stupid , imbecilic Americans who would vote themselves into servitude for a promise of bread.

Consider the following; Democrats have fared badly since 2010.

Scott walker demolished the biggest pro-socilaist movements in Wisconsin despite the polls showing his defeat.

Akin has jumped ahead in Mo. once again.

is this election different from 2010 when the democrats were slaughtered?


97 posted on 09/09/2012 1:58:05 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: justiceseeker93; vette6387; freekitty; Free ThinkerNY; ConorMacNessa; bevperl; seekthetruth; ...

RAT’s have continued with their Goebbel’s style of polling and campaigning on behalf of their dictator. Welcome to the Left’s propaganda warfare.

I am not buying into their mind games or their bogus polls. Talk to anyone who just walked out of the movie 2016 and ask their opinion of the Dictator in Chief. Between now and November, there are numerous movies, books, and exposes coming out about the Liberal’s God. IMO, by late October, only the bottom feeders, mindless, and modern day Jim Jones Kool Aid drinkers will be supporting him and his goons.


98 posted on 09/09/2012 8:16:02 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Another thing I’ve noticed: the rampant viral growth of these “fact-checker” websites.

The overwhelming majority of them lean incredibly Leftist. The Obama Truth Squad is out in force!


99 posted on 09/09/2012 9:17:04 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: justiceseeker93
And thirdly, even the people who were e-mailed by the pollster would have to have self-selected themselves further by choosing to answer in order to participate in the poll.

This would be true of any poll, wouldn't it?

-PJ

100 posted on 09/09/2012 9:50:07 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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