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State of the race: Advantage, Obama (Politico propaganda piece)
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Posted on 09/08/2012 6:20:33 PM PDT by Perdogg

President Barack Obama heads out of the national political conventions with a much clearer path to winning, top advisers to Mitt Romney privately concede.

The Romney campaign, while pleasantly surprised by Obama’s lackluster prime-time performance, said the post-convention bounce they hoped for fell well short of expectations and privately lament that state-by-state polling numbers — most glaringly in Ohio — are working in the president’s favor.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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1 posted on 09/08/2012 6:20:36 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: LS; AuH2ORepublican; randita; Impy; GOPJ; TheBigB; DarthVader; Norman Bates

ping


2 posted on 09/08/2012 6:22:32 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I read this (link from Drudge). I’m stunned. But it’s very believable.

I cannot fathom that these guys went this risky and now are stuck with a hope and prayer. God help us. I have never been more down today. I need to give it a rest and watch some football.


3 posted on 09/08/2012 6:23:58 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Perdogg

Why would the Romney campaign be giving inside information to Politico?


4 posted on 09/08/2012 6:24:56 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: nhwingut

Me too its very depressing. If people want Communism I dont know what can be said. I never thought in my lifetime instead of a Capitalist society we would end up living in a Communist one


5 posted on 09/08/2012 6:25:51 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Perdogg

It’s tough to run against a nanny state in a nation full of foreigners and illegal aliens. America has become the Great Pinata. Bash away and the goodies fall out.


6 posted on 09/08/2012 6:26:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DNC convention is proof that Americans still love a good freak show.)
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To: Perdogg

I’m inclined to believe it, unfortunately. I also believe Romney can pull it out.


7 posted on 09/08/2012 6:26:25 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Obama, a ship sailing on yesterday's wind)
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To: Perdogg

I don’t believe it. If Romney aids are pleased with the lackluster Obama speech, they would not be concerned about state polls right now. They have not even began to campaign aggressively. . They chose specifically to play nice in the convention just a week ago. They didn’t even try to go after Obama nor begin laying out the specific agenda. If they were concerned about polls, they would not have chosen the strategy they did. They were doing what they did for the long view....to counter he democratic narratives and present a better view of Mitt. It was building a base for the next two months. A losing campaign would have gone a whole different direction.


8 posted on 09/08/2012 6:27:02 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: KansasGirl

Sabotage... or disinformation.


9 posted on 09/08/2012 6:27:38 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: ilgipper; TonyInOhio; LS

If this were true why was Biden in Ohio today?


10 posted on 09/08/2012 6:28:47 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: ilgipper

I agree. The risky part in my post (was getting defined all summer and then waiting too long to reply). The only thing I can think of is they didn’t get the bounce they were hoping for from Ryan/convention and are now stuck playing catch up from much further behind than anticipated. Unreal.


11 posted on 09/08/2012 6:31:32 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Perdogg

“privately lament that state-by-state polling numbers — most glaringly in Ohio — are working in the president’s favor.”


that’s funny because according to RCP the Ohio numbers are trending towards Romney is recent polling:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html

and the Quinn/See BS poll from 8/1 oversampled rats by 8%:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/103619714/Quinn-FL-OH-WI-8-23?secret_password=hemgtlli0hz43auizbq


12 posted on 09/08/2012 6:31:45 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ilgipper

Also notice that they are focusing on VA, WI, OH, IA, NV. These are two must win swing saws and some ‘nice to wins’ Obama is back to IA for the third time in a three week period, NH, and FL. He’s trying to sew up his core states that he should have in the bag . FL is not on Romney’s radar this week,,,Obama is making an effort to save it as he is down. Obama is working from behind.


13 posted on 09/08/2012 6:32:34 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Perdogg

I think it’s wrong to say that people are choosing a Communist system. What they’re choosing is freebies—lots of them—and a “live for today” mindset that is reflected in both the fiscal policies and the social policies of the Democratic party. Notice what the Dems highlighted at their convention? They LOVE abortion and gay sex, and they hate God. That pretty much sums up where we are as a country.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 6:32:41 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Perdogg

Why is Drudge pushing this story?


15 posted on 09/08/2012 6:33:36 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: TonyInOhio

Doesn’t comport at all with Ras’s swing state poll, or ANY demographic within any of the polls, but, it must be true cause this is Politico. It never lies.


16 posted on 09/08/2012 6:34:09 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Perdogg
If this were true why was Biden in Ohio today?

I don't believe the bit in the article about Ohio, though, obviously, I'm no expert. My own guess is that if Romney were that far back, he'd be living here, or Paul Ryan would be. The last several statewide polls have shown things pretty much tied, and that seems about right.

The race sure looks like a tie at this point, but Romney has to overcome the incumbency and racial advantages that Obama enjoys.

17 posted on 09/08/2012 6:34:19 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Obama, a ship sailing on yesterday's wind)
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To: Perdogg

Well, if Mitt’s “top advisors” have already conceded, I guess I don’t need to send any money to his campaign. I’m glad they told me this. I’ll send it to somebody else.


18 posted on 09/08/2012 6:35:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DNC convention is proof that Americans still love a good freak show.)
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To: Perdogg

Maybe they needed some laughs today in Ohio...


19 posted on 09/08/2012 6:35:20 PM PDT by 103198
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To: Perdogg

We got a couple of October Surprises to go through, so things ain’t settled yet.


20 posted on 09/08/2012 6:35:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Remember this is politico. This is little more than propagada to elicit the response you just gave.


21 posted on 09/08/2012 6:37:56 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: KansasGirl
Why is Drudge pushing this story?

I have been wondering about Drudge all day. He normally suppresses bad polls for Romney, only promoting good ones.

Yet today, he headlined the Gallup number all day. Never has he done this before. I can only surmise that, like many of us, he is getting annoyed with the weak tea campaign being run by Team Romney and maybe trying to light a fire under them.
22 posted on 09/08/2012 6:38:53 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: madprof98

So it’s actually worse than communism. A party congress in the USSR devoted to abortion, condoms and sodomy would have been unthinkable. This country is down the toilet no matter who wins.


23 posted on 09/08/2012 6:39:12 PM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: Perdogg

Then I suggest that Mitt march his “top advisors” out there to deny this and then slap a lawsuit on Politico’s ass.


24 posted on 09/08/2012 6:41:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DNC convention is proof that Americans still love a good freak show.)
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To: Perdogg
You know, it is down right embarrassing watching FReepers fall for this crap.

1) Obama had to move his speech from 70K venue to a 20K venue (And lets remember, the weather was great!)

2) Obama didn't bring up his two signature issues in his convention speech: ObamaCare & Stimulus! Hmm, wonder why?

3) Obama has blown through a good chunk of his war chest trying to hammer Romney with negative ads on Romneys association ith Bain, and the War on Women. Doesn't look like that worked out to well, now did it?

4) The jobs figures from last week are horrendous!

5) David Axelrod threatens Gallup with a law suite.

6) They also massage these polls to give them the results they desire.

Sorry, but if you guys want to sit here and wring your hands you go right ahead, but I'm not buying this B.S. for one moment. These polls and reality simply do not jive. I swear, the Left must laugh their A$$es off at us. We make their work so much easier.

What a bunch of Debbie Downers.

25 posted on 09/08/2012 6:41:10 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: all the best

Washington post is running a story by woodwad that has Obama worrying more about his re-election than dealing with debt crisis last year


26 posted on 09/08/2012 6:41:43 PM PDT by scbison
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To: nhwingut
Romney can still win the presidency if he loses Ohio, but it’s extremely difficult.

Not really. He needs Wisconsin and Virginia instead. Both states are winnable. 2008 aside, the Democrats have been winning Wisconsin by smaller and smaller margins recently - less than half a percentage point on 2004 and 2000. Ryan on the ticket could very well swing the state into Romney's column. Obama's win in Virginia was an aberration. If you look at the other toss-up states, Obama should take Michigan, New Hampshire, Nevada, Pennsylvania. Romney should take Florida, North Carolina, Colorado, and Iowa. That makes the electoral vote 250 for Romney and 247 for Obama. Add Wisconsin and Virginia to Romney and that brings it up to 273 and the win. Ohio is irrelevant.

27 posted on 09/08/2012 6:42:41 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Perdogg
...top advisers to Mitt Romney privately concede.

No names, eh?

Sounds like agitprop.

Don't let the ass-kissers of Obamugabe demoralize you; that is their sole job between now and election day.

28 posted on 09/08/2012 6:43:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: nhwingut

It’s post-convention. Not time to freak. Obama got only a modest bounce, and that’s because he is an orator. That will fade.


29 posted on 09/08/2012 6:43:48 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: nhwingut
I’m stunned. But it’s very believable.

I cannot fathom that these guys went this risky and now are stuck with a hope and prayer. God help us. I have never been more down today. I need to give it a rest and watch some football.

You have just been propagandized.

Politico is an Obama cheerleader.

Their "sources" have quoted polls which aren't known to exist -- and are contrary to every reputable poll that has been published.

And you bought it...???

30 posted on 09/08/2012 6:45:10 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: TonyInOhio

The first part of the article is exaggerated and ginned up, after that it makes sense but is run of the mill info. Seems to me Obama has a bounce which will fade. I think they got a worry wart to feed them some selective quotes.

Obviously the debates will be crucial.


31 posted on 09/08/2012 6:46:12 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: KansasGirl
Why would the Romney campaign be giving inside information to Politico?

My thoughts exactly! Of course it would not do to be over confident at this stage, but I think the Freepers who are comparing Mitt to McCain are making a big mistake. I agree that McCain did not really want to be POTUS. His attempt to control Sarah Palin is evidence of that very thing. He is very comfortable in his role of criticizing America from his safe Senate seat and all he really wanted was to have "his turn" at being the Republican nominee. He also had, comparatively speaking, very little money to spend in the last couple of months leading up to the election. You also have to remember that you cannot believe ANYTHING that the MSM says!

On the other hand, I think that Mitt VERY much wants to be POTUS and really believes that he will be better able to turn the economy around than Obama. He has MILLIONS of dollars to spend and the ads that will show the American people what a disaster the DNC was are probably not even ready yet! You can not believe the polls that are showing a big bump for Obama following the DNC because, according to the ratings, even fewer people watched the DNC than did the RNC. I do not think that the debates are going to help Obama and they will absolutely destroy Biden. Also, it does not matter what people tell a pollster, especially over the week-end. What matters is who cares enough to get themselves out of their easy chairs and go to the polls to vote for their candidate. Even though the people at the DNC were very enthusiastic about Obama, I really believe that for many Obama voters this is not the case and they will not go out of their way to vote. Those like me that believe this election is the last chance we have to save the American way of life will move heaven and earth to vote against one whose mission has always been to destroy it. Just my two cents.

32 posted on 09/08/2012 6:48:32 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I don’t need to get past the byline to question the validity of this article. Jim Vandehei?


33 posted on 09/08/2012 6:50:25 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: okie01
The same people that are buying this Politco crap are the same folks who eagerly ate up all of their hit-pieces about Bachmann, Cain , and Perry.

The fact that some people believe Politico says more about them than it does Politico. And some have the onions to criticize Romney? Pfft!

34 posted on 09/08/2012 6:50:52 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Perdogg

Reading the article it sounds like everything is the same as it was a couple months ago.

Considering how little Romney has advertised in that period, and how much Obama has, that’s at least not bad.


35 posted on 09/08/2012 6:51:03 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: thecodont
"... or disinformation."

Romney was marginally behind Zero going into the Republican convention, and came out a few points ahead, based on the Rasmussen tracking poll. He did indeed bounce.

So now, the day after Romney begins his advertising campaign, and at the peak of the 'rat's predictable post convention bonce, they're conceding the election??? Something does not smell right here. (The Romney campaign has snookered the Obama campaign with poll numbers before, so it's possible that's what is happening here. This is not McCain's 2008 campaign.)

36 posted on 09/08/2012 6:51:10 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Artcore
You nailed it and don't forget:

7) 2010 wave changing election especially in the midwest that enables strong Republican governors and others to campaign with R&R

8) Election trend (2009 VA, Jersey, and Scott Brown, 2010 multiple locations, NC marriage amendment, WI recall, WV, AR, and KY Dim primaries, etc.) since 2008

37 posted on 09/08/2012 6:51:29 PM PDT by 103198
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To: Perdogg

Politico is the ENEMY of the GOP.
No one talks to them.

this is pure crap from a DNC front group


38 posted on 09/08/2012 6:51:47 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Perdogg

What’s most discouraging is the DNC by any objective analysis was a complete disaster. Unabashed aggressive liberalism was on display. Booing God and Israel and constant abortion. The democrats no longer feel the need to hide their leftism, unlike in past years. Yet the public isn’t revolted, they rally in no small number to the democrats. It says something very disturbing about America in 2012. It’s no longer Reagan’s America or even Clinton’s 1996 America.


39 posted on 09/08/2012 6:53:40 PM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: Perdogg
"Remember this is politico. This is little more than propagada to elicit the response you just gave."

Exactly. Politico. Leftist vermin engaged in an unholy tryst with MSDNC.(Employers of 21st century Benedict Arnold Steve Schmidt, bald headed Palin backstabber).

When they can name pub consultants rather than hiding behind anonymity, they might have some cred.

'Til then, consider anything coming from them RAT propaganda.

40 posted on 09/08/2012 6:53:45 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: USNBandit
Good old Wash Compost JImmie!

I recall Jimmie thru a girly hissy fit on Air Force One because the Bush people would not put CNN on the TV and he could not watch Fox !

He is full blown liar and Obama media whore.

41 posted on 09/08/2012 6:55:06 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Delhi Rebels

No GOP candidate has ever won while losing Ohio


42 posted on 09/08/2012 6:55:07 PM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: Bobloblaw2012

And R&R won’t this time.


43 posted on 09/08/2012 6:57:08 PM PDT by 103198
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To: Bobloblaw2012

Won’t lose that is...


44 posted on 09/08/2012 6:59:25 PM PDT by 103198
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To: Artcore

All it takes to claim the Romney insiders “concede” something is as follows. Liberal punk reporter blabs on to them with a long list of “isn’t it true... “? To which the Romney guy responds “yeah, but” or “ok, but” or “maybe but”.

And voila! Politico can start their article with Romney insiders “conceding” something.

Also I got the feeling some of the article came from a worrier not running the campaign, because then they referred to the campaign’s response to those worries.

Or else I’m wrong and the Romney campaign decided to quit 2 days after the DNC convention. Highly unlikely.

Also unlikely that the Romney campaign would speak so negatively about the fact Obama must defend some states he thought were safe.


45 posted on 09/08/2012 6:59:51 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: nhwingut
You been busy TODAY posting EVERY SINGLE NEGATIVE ARTILCE AND POLL YOU CAN DIG UP .

TRYING TO DELUSION EVERYONE here !

In fact , you got caught intentionally distorting an actual headline to make things sound worse in your last post.

Time to CALL IT A NIGHT TROLL !

46 posted on 09/08/2012 7:00:06 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Bobloblaw2012
No GOP candidate has ever won while losing Ohio

There is a first time for everything. The point is that it's doable without Ohio and Pennsylvania, and the keys are Wisconsin and Virginia. And I like Romney's chances in both.

47 posted on 09/08/2012 7:00:30 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Perdogg

Obama will lose every state he currently polls under 50% in, including Ohio. His maximum vote is 47%.


48 posted on 09/08/2012 7:00:39 PM PDT by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: Bobloblaw2012

All true but most people don’t know about the DNC shouting down God. Most people and especially squishy undecideds spend very little time on this stuff. And btw a lot of conservatives don’t know stuff because they refused to watch news during the DNC.


49 posted on 09/08/2012 7:03:55 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: ncalburt
Time to CALL IT A NIGHT TROLL !

The trick is to figure out when their 8 hr shifts start and stop.

50 posted on 09/08/2012 7:05:38 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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