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Auto workers threaten triple strike (Canada)
The Globe and Mail ^ | Sep. 06 2012 | GREG KEENAN - AUTO INDUSTRY REPORTER

Posted on 09/09/2012 4:43:06 AM PDT by Salman

The Canadian Auto Workers union is turning up the pressure in contract talks with the Detroit Three auto makers, saying it is prepared to go on strike against all of them at the same time if no deal is reached by the Sept. 17 deadline.

“The corporations are refusing to add any costs whatsoever – instead they insist on cutting costs from our existing agreements,” the CAW said in a leaflet distributed Wednesday at Canadian plants operated by Chrysler Group LLC, Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. “None of the three companies have demonstrated that they are serious about reaching an agreement.”

The common message from the companies is that anything that increases wages or costs – such as signing bonuses – must be offset by cost reductions in other parts of the agreement, the leaflet said, adding that the positions taken by the companies show a “co-ordinated effort” to hold the line.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: chrysler; ford; gm; unions
My my. I wonder how their UAW "brothers" will show solidarity?
1 posted on 09/09/2012 4:43:13 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

fire them and hire new


2 posted on 09/09/2012 4:44:31 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Salman

Commie union leaders...they’re *everywhere*.Kinda like syphilis.


3 posted on 09/09/2012 4:53:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Voter ID Equals "No Representation Without Respiration")
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To: Salman

on another note, the rumor around here is that the East Coast dock workers are set to strike the end of this month and export trade jobs will be radically affected as goods back up on the loading docks and the ports.


4 posted on 09/09/2012 4:58:47 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Salman

Since GM is own by the union and government, I wonder how this will play out?


5 posted on 09/09/2012 5:02:40 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Salman
“The corporations are refusing to add any costs whatsoever – instead they insist on cutting costs from our existing agreements,” the CAW said

“None of the three companies have demonstrated that they are serious about reaching an agreement.”

They are serious about reaching an agreement that allows them to remain competitive in a Global Market.

The no longer Big Three are competing on global market with companies that have far lower labor cost and very comparable quality products.

The American car companies may have reached the point that they either lower labor cost or go out of business.

I think the GM and Chrysler bailouts of 2009 show that

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:.
the gutting of the UAW,
the slaying of SEIU
and the gelding of the NFT.

6 posted on 09/09/2012 5:10:37 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: bert

on another note, the rumor around here is that the East Coast dock workers are set to strike the end of this month and export trade jobs will be radically affected as goods back up on the loading docks and the ports.

So much for Christmas inventories....


7 posted on 09/09/2012 5:18:18 AM PDT by Average Al (The Democrat party is a free range zoo.)
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To: Pontiac

Too bad GM didn’t take a good long strike back in the 1980s when their cars were junk and not selling well.


8 posted on 09/09/2012 5:26:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Salman

They can either keep their employers competitive, follow their jobs to China, and be a “Union” man there, or serve as an unpaid agitator for a losing tariff war.


9 posted on 09/09/2012 5:54:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Unfortunately for huge companies like GM having your union go on strike is often a bad political move.

The big unions have political clout. Strikers do not pay taxes so the local governments get pissed. If the strike goes on long enough strikers don’t pay bills so banks get pissed.

CEOs all think of these effects before they push negotiations to the point of a strike. They have to because they get phone calls from politicians trying to pressure them to fold.

I am sure the CEO of GM back in the 80s got such calls we all know that the GM CEO to day will be getting an Obama call about this.

10 posted on 09/09/2012 5:54:46 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

The flip side is, GM knew its competitor (Ford and Chrysler, for the most part) would get the same UAW bump every two or three years so there was little incentive to fight back. The UAW knew this, too.
Pity they ignored Honda, Toyota, etc that moved in and cleaned their clocks.


11 posted on 09/09/2012 5:59:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Salman

The automakers would love for a strike to happen, I’ guessing. They’ve channel-stuffed their inventory into dealerships to the point where there is such a large supply of cars that a 30, 60, even 90 day strike would be welcome. They can reduce inventories, and blame someone else for stopping production.


12 posted on 09/09/2012 6:02:52 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Salman

Hey, come on, Uncle Sam will come through again. These guys are idiots. I suppose they don’t recognize that there is serious glut of automobile production capacity in the world right now. All the cars not made in Canada will be replaced by ones made in Alabama or Detroit or Stuttgart.


13 posted on 09/09/2012 6:07:11 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Pontiac

very comparable quality products?

The quality of Chevy, Dodge, (Ford is getting better but still), is far inferior to that of most imports, and has been that way for some time. These unions don’t care about the products. They only want money in their pockets.

You simply can’t compare a mid size chevy to a mid size Honda or Toyota, it doesn’t pan out. The unions have ruined what used to be good vehicles.


14 posted on 09/09/2012 6:14:00 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Pontiac; All

You missed one very important point, Obama is the CEO of GM and he is the head of the UAW operations for GM at the same time. So is that funny picture of him holding the wrong end of the phone to his ear a perfect example that he cannot even listen to himself?


15 posted on 09/09/2012 6:18:59 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The Japanese deliberately limited imports in response to U.S. political pressure in the 1980’s, but subsequently opened plants in the U.S. Automobiles in the U.S. market are at best probably only about 50% domestic content anyway. The assembly step is one of the least value added, compared to production of engines, transmissions and components. When you buy an “American” car it is likely that it was assembled in Canada or Mexico out of parts made in Japan, China and Germany.


16 posted on 09/09/2012 6:27:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

We have a 2012 Ford Fusion.
Motor is US.
Transmission from Japan.
Assembly in Mexico.


17 posted on 09/09/2012 6:44:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Salman

The Chrysler van we just bought was assembled in Ottawa.


18 posted on 09/09/2012 6:45:39 AM PDT by randita
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It’s not unlikely that the brake rotors came from another country, the water pump somewhere else, etc...


19 posted on 09/09/2012 7:05:39 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Did Saturn follow the practice of farming out their componets? I have a 2006 Vue that I absolutely love. We take it in for it’s scheduled oil changes and that’s it. Never had a problem with it. It’s got 28,000 miles, but only because my hubby had to get rid of his brand new truck when he lost his job last year.


20 posted on 09/09/2012 7:44:50 AM PDT by DancingMyRainbow
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To: bert

“on another note, the rumor around here is that the East Coast dock workers are set to strike the end of this month and export trade jobs will be radically affected as goods back up on the loading docks and the ports.”

Really, really bad time for any union to be striking before the election, especially one that could significantly impact the national economy. Not going to help The One at all. Economy goes further in the crapper, and the folks see once again how union power isn’t necessarily a good thing.

If I were the head of a large corporation being struck right now, I’d do everything possible to keep the strike going right until after election day, and I would seek as much national publicity as possible pointing out how my company was on the verge of failing and the strike might just finish it off, significantly adding to the unemployment situation.


21 posted on 09/09/2012 7:55:24 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: DancingMyRainbow

I don’t know any specifics about Saturn, but my feeling is that is was as multisourced as any car in history. The OEM (GM in this case) keeps the specifications for the components and probably has at least three suppliers for any assembly they don’t make in house.

For any relatively popular brand, there are dozens of after market suppliers. You can still buy newly manufactured Model-T parts.


22 posted on 09/09/2012 8:00:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Salman

Ah, my old hometown of Kanukistan...my money is on the Big 3 folding to these cretins. Unions in Kanada are stronger than American ones.

Then again, canada post (post office) did not get their concessions on their last strike once the public found out what a bunch of dead beats they were (just like American USPS workers).


23 posted on 09/09/2012 9:44:46 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Salman

So they are striking for more inflated worthless Obama dollars. Little do they understand money is being devalued faster then a raise will cover.


24 posted on 09/09/2012 9:52:14 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Salman

The Unions goal is to take out Harper.


25 posted on 09/09/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Salman; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

Canada Ping!

26 posted on 09/09/2012 2:44:36 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: randita

“The Chrysler van we just bought was assembled in Ottawa.”

Ummm ...you might want to double-check that. I think it might have been Windsor ON.

Having said that, the unions here are really being unbelievable. They say that they gave up SO much when the companies were hurting, and now that the companies (GM) are doing SO well, they want payback. Incredible. They will be watching their jobs go south, or abroad.


27 posted on 09/09/2012 4:43:17 PM PDT by Dartman
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Go ahead and strike. Nothing but a bunch of grossly overpaid lazy slobs doing repetetive monkey skills.

Cheers...Chris


28 posted on 09/09/2012 5:11:46 PM PDT by Moose47 (Cooper's photo)
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To: Dartman

Yes, it was Windsor.


29 posted on 09/09/2012 5:42:30 PM PDT by randita
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To: Salman

I wonder what’s cheaper... dealing with the Canadian unions or making a new plant in a business-friendly US state. Technically, the US labor board wouldn’t have a dog in the fight since it doesn’t involve a US union.

Of course, I’d only suggest this if Obama gets unelected. The man has no concept of the boundaries on his power and would rather fight for a foreign union than American workers.


30 posted on 09/10/2012 8:57:22 AM PDT by WileyC
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