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General Election: Romney vs. Obama (Rasmussen: Obama 49 Romney 45)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 9/9/2012 | Rasmussen reports

Posted on 09/09/2012 6:17:22 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote

1500 LV - not good.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/09/2012 6:17:23 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

Mods sorry for the mistake can you put 49 - 45?


2 posted on 09/09/2012 6:18:08 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Romney couldn’t even get past 48% in Rasmussen with his convention bounce. This is the convention bounce but HOPEFULLY the jobs report will sink in soon and turn the numbers around.


3 posted on 09/09/2012 6:20:35 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GlockThe Vote
Rasmussen: Obama 49 Romney 44

As king of the U.S. that he is, Obama should issue another presidential edict to hold elections this week, before things change.
4 posted on 09/09/2012 6:20:35 AM PDT by adorno
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To: GlockThe Vote
Photobucket I call it...
5 posted on 09/09/2012 6:22:46 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: GlockThe Vote

Oh look, another post convention panic thread.

Cue the drama queens, Romney bashers, suicide candidates, conspiracy theorists, and DU trolls!


6 posted on 09/09/2012 6:23:54 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: GlockThe Vote

They got it before the Rasmussenreports site; that still shows saturday’s 46-44. Must be premium members.


7 posted on 09/09/2012 6:24:10 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: GlockThe Vote

Convention bounce, likely fleeting, but what’s not good is that Romney didn’t get one.


8 posted on 09/09/2012 6:24:50 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: GlockThe Vote

seriously, there is something wrong with this country.

but on second thought the gullible voters elected FDR 3 times no matter how much he screwed things up.


9 posted on 09/09/2012 6:25:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: snarkytart
...but HOPEFULLY the jobs report will sink in soon and turn the numbers around.

Unfortunately, most people aren't paying attention to the jobs reports, and most of those who do pay attention, don't understand them. Unemployment, to most people, is a problem only to those who are not employed. The people who are dependent on government for most or a lot of their support, won't budge from their support for democrats and Obama.

IOW, the country is doomed, until people are made to suffer the consequences of their stupidity, like in Greece.
10 posted on 09/09/2012 6:25:54 AM PDT by adorno
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To: GlockThe Vote
It is as Rush feared—the Left has significally increased the moron vote and they are just now starting to pay attention.

Like during the Revolution, a third were patriots, a third were traitors and a third were morons...we may have to go back to the tactics that made us ALL Americans.

11 posted on 09/09/2012 6:26:00 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: VanDeKoik

I am voting for r and R but I am pissedoff at his campaign so far.


12 posted on 09/09/2012 6:26:36 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

WWII had lots to do with that.


13 posted on 09/09/2012 6:27:06 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Is this today? I thought he releases at 9:30?


14 posted on 09/09/2012 6:27:19 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yup. You should see peoplei know what they post on FB.

It’s a disaster all around.


15 posted on 09/09/2012 6:28:01 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: nhwingut

Don’t know was reported at RCP


16 posted on 09/09/2012 6:28:47 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: nhwingut

Also shows 52 percent job approval.


17 posted on 09/09/2012 6:29:24 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: adorno

Darlin’ that is what ROMNEY IS SUPPOSE TO DO! He’s suppose to be the one making a big deal over the jobs report Friday.
Over and over at every stop and in front of every camera.


18 posted on 09/09/2012 6:29:29 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GlockThe Vote
Not buying.

One question will win it for Obama, “are you better off under Obama”?

19 posted on 09/09/2012 6:30:13 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obamacare, the final nail in the US coffin.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

You need to ping the mod.


20 posted on 09/09/2012 6:30:32 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GlockThe Vote

For not being 10 points ahead after the other party had their convention?

When the numbers settle back to where they were, the angry people will go back to being happy.


21 posted on 09/09/2012 6:31:57 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: snarkytart

Reagan was down by 4 Points in September


22 posted on 09/09/2012 6:32:22 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I see “Rasmussen,” and I just can’t believe it anymore.


23 posted on 09/09/2012 6:33:31 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: scooby321

“Reagan was down by 4 Points in September”

That’s because Reagan was a squishy tool of the GOP-E, and ran lousy commercials during a terrible economy where he should have been doing BLAH BLAH BLAH.

That is what you would have read on Freerepublic.com in 1980.


24 posted on 09/09/2012 6:35:57 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: tobyhill

Too many people don’t feel the full results of this economy.


25 posted on 09/09/2012 6:37:35 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

The media still wields the largest stick. They bashed the RNC and it was a lovefest, rockstar, party of fun at the DNC. War needs to begin with the media.


26 posted on 09/09/2012 6:37:45 AM PDT by commonguymd (New media has not replaced the MSM. It has emboldened it. twitter @commonguymd)
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To: GlockThe Vote

The secret for D party success...

I thought that the voters would want a regime change due to the awful economy and lack of jobs (and worse trend indicators). However, it appears that the worse things get, the more the public wants Democrats in charge???
If this is correct, then the secret for D party success is obvious, just keep making things worse and worse and worse and worse...(while singing songs like “we are trying to help you” and “we care about you” and, of course, “all your suffering is the fault of others, not us and not you.. but rather...those weird bogeymen lurking behind the “Bush” or under the bed,...”)

Or...????


27 posted on 09/09/2012 6:39:08 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: babble-on
Sorry, but Romney did get a post convention bounce, (or a bounce of some sort) according to the Rasmussen tracking poll. Look at Rasmussen's graph! Zero was about 4 or 5 points ahead of Romney during the last week of August, and Romney was about 4 or 5 points ahead of Zero last Sunday.

Obama's convention bounce should fade next week. Then we have a weekend, and weekend polls are biased against Republicans, conservatives and libertarians. So look to the polls towards the end of the third week in September to get an idea of how this is going. IMO, Romney is in at least as good shape as Reagan was at this point in 1980.

28 posted on 09/09/2012 6:41:00 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Hmm. You watch. All of a sudden Rasmussen will become newsworthy. Despite the media never mentioning his polls all summer. You will see all the Sunday shows with a Rasmussen graphic.


29 posted on 09/09/2012 6:41:26 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Sooth2222

Romney is not reason and this country is vastly different than 1980


30 posted on 09/09/2012 6:42:32 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: VanDeKoik
Have you ever heard a Freeper condemning Ronald Reagan? All I hear is what a great Hero he was.

“Reagan couldn't survive in today's GOP” was a mendacious premise put forth by the Left and echoed by RINO pols and pundits...pols and pundits Free Republic curse and scorn on a daily basis.

Perhaps you should reconsider your assumption.

31 posted on 09/09/2012 6:44:26 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: GlockThe Vote

I don’t think that is it, look how food prices have gone up. and everything else. I don’t know what it is.
Only I can think of is it part of a bigger plan. End days, why else would Obamaloney not be losing with his attacks on Israel (Jews), birth control (Catholics) and anti christianity attitude.
People can’t be that excited about getting $200 food stamps what kind of life is that?


32 posted on 09/09/2012 6:46:28 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: Thorliveshere

Weekend effect.

I believe this happened the past two weekends; wait for Monday or Tuesday for a reversal.

Only worry about the battleground states. Rasmussen premium site has Romney up or tied that last few snapshots.

Rasmussen’s national poll does have Obama ahead right now (within Margin of Error), but this shows the effect of the POPULAR VOTE, not the ELECTORAL COLLEGE vote. Obama’s huge majority in California, New York, and Illinois is affecting this Rasmussen poll. DON’T BE SURPRISED if Obama wins the popular vote—and the Dems will be screaming later for a Presidential Popular Vote; however, there will never be 38 states to ratify such an Amendment.

Rasmussen’s generally accurate, though — it’s gonna be a nail-biter, I have it 272 EV for Romney.


33 posted on 09/09/2012 6:49:45 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: Happy Rain

Have you ever heard a Freeper condemning Ronald Reagan? All I hear is what a great Hero he was.

Turn around. See that? It’s called “Hindsight”.

Just because this is a conservative website does not mean everyone here operates on some higher level of emotional maturity than the average DU dupe.

The most certainly WOULD have been trotting out the same overly-dramatic claptrap if this site was around back during the 1980 election.


34 posted on 09/09/2012 6:50:33 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: commonguymd
The media still wields the largest stick.

Yep. The media is the enemy. The Democrats (without the subsidized bias) are a joke of a party (pro abort, high taxes, massive spending, etc).

The media is still far more powerful than we all think. The coverage of the two conventions was like night and day. Obama was running a challenger convention and got away with it.

He was allowed to disown the economy. If that were a GOPer after four years, every talking head would be, "This is strange Wolf, I don't understand the strategy to blame the other party when you have been in charge for four years... etc."
35 posted on 09/09/2012 6:51:24 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: GlockThe Vote

If you look at history the GOP gets only one chance exactly every 32 years to defeat a Democrat incumbent. 1916, 1948, 1980 and 2012. for some reason democrat incumbents are very difficult to defeat.

To the purist conservatives here who think if Romney loses we will get a “true conservative” in 2016, I have a prediction. The GOP candidate in 2016 will be to the left of 2012 Romney even if it’s Palin or Rubio. Why? The political center of American politics will shift left in the next four years:

Obamacare will be part of the American fabric just like Medicare was in 1968 or social security in 1940. The GOP won’t be able to repeal it or run against it. In fact the Dems in 2016 will be the ones running on repealing obamacare and replacing it with single payer. The right wing position will be obamacare

Amnesty will bring in 10-12 million new democrat voters. This will ensure identity politics is set in concrete in American elections.

The SCOTUS will hand down a Roe type ruling on gay marriage. The GOP will remove their plank on marriage in their platform and be silent on gay marriage issues.

Even a Palin or Scott Walker 2016 candidacy will be to the left of Romney 2012 or Gore 2000 for that matter.

This election is it. If we lose, we lose the country. There will be no going back no repeals, no constitutional amendents to fix the damage.

There are inflection points from which winning candidates leap ahead for good. In 2004 it was the swift boat veterans who did in Kerry in August 2004. In 2008 it was Lehman collapse for obama In 1992, it was Clinton’s successful DNC. The question is was the most leftwing in your face liberal DNC convention an inflection point? If it was, it says something horrible about America and Americans.


36 posted on 09/09/2012 6:55:49 AM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: babble-on

The undecideds are mostly unhappy Obama voters from 2008. Romney right now is polling about what McCain got. It looks like Romney didn’t convince the unhappy Obama 2008 voters and that Obama did indeed win a back about half of them with his convention. There is an outside chance Obama could again win 53%, if so the Dems will win the House as well, but more likely the election will be closer than 2008.


37 posted on 09/09/2012 6:56:01 AM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: GlockThe Vote
And yet . . .

Dems are mysteriously worried, and consistently so:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2928532/posts

Just last week Carville was concerned that there wouldn't be the turnout. I teach college kids. It is NOTHING like it was in 08. I see no buttons, pins, stickers for Zero. Nothing. Will a few vote for him? Probably, just as some voted for Kerry.

38 posted on 09/09/2012 6:57:52 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: baddog 219

Especially after the hissy fit Axelrod threw. I don’t buy this poll as being accurate for one second!


39 posted on 09/09/2012 6:59:39 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Really guys what kind of campaign did you think Romney was going to run?
Did you think righteous indignation?
Hitting obama where it hurt?
Did you really expect him to be a tough guy?
Romney is milk toast unless he is running against a conservative.


40 posted on 09/09/2012 6:59:47 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Here is the difference... I keep saying this over and over... If people want Obama out, they can’t just sit behind a keyboard this time.

They have to go out and campaign against him and *for* R/R.

This election hinges on the ground game. Not the ads, not the polls.

It is us versus the unions in the major cities of the battleground states. Every single republican, libertarian, and independent in and outside of those cities need to be dragged to the polls to vote for R/R.


41 posted on 09/09/2012 7:00:32 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: VanDeKoik
Well, there is no way to prove one way or another if FR would have been anti-Reagan back before there was an Internet much less a FR.

I have been a Freeper for 12 years and I voted for The Gipper TWICE -four times if you count the primaries and unless most on this forum are new conservatives I suspect the vast majority of us (who are old enough) did the same...

I submit this assumption has more standing than yours.

42 posted on 09/09/2012 7:02:08 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: GlockThe Vote

If these fools manage to drag Obama across the finish line, may everyone who pulled the lever he his first victims.....jobless and broke.


43 posted on 09/09/2012 7:02:44 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: GlockThe Vote

And it was all part of the Rats plan.
I think it shows a lot how much gun sales are up


44 posted on 09/09/2012 7:02:47 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: svcw

“Really guys what kind of campaign did you think Romney was going to run?
Did you think righteous indignation?
Hitting obama where it hurt?
Did you really expect him to be a tough guy?
Romney is milk toast unless he is running against a conservative.”

A bounce from the DNC convention, and guess what? Romney is a horrible candidate because he did stop that from happening!

Funny how before Romney was running a great campaign. Now it OMG!!! PANIC PANIC PANIC ROMNEY SUCKS!!!


45 posted on 09/09/2012 7:03:14 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Bobloblaw2012
There are inflection points from which winning candidates leap ahead for good. In 2004 it was the swift boat veterans who did in Kerry in August 2004. In 2008 it was Lehman collapse for obama In 1992, it was Clinton’s successful DNC. The question is was the most leftwing in your face liberal DNC convention an inflection point? If it was, it says something horrible about America and Americans.

Very well stated... The entire post. My point above yours is similar. Obama ran not only an in your face leftwing convention but a challenger one as well (attack opponent, not defend your record). And the media spun and cheered. They slapped flags on far left policies, i.e. it's patriotic to pay higher taxes, it's patriotic to have abortions, etc.

And you are correct. If Obama win, it is all over. And this is not hyperbole. Everything you mentioned (with the aid of the media) will become true. Obamacare will become the conservative position, and single payer will become the left's platform.

That is why it is troubling to see this bounce, amidst this train wreck. We can't be blind in our allegiance (and blow off every poll even Rasmussen) if we think Romney is running an ineffective campaign.
46 posted on 09/09/2012 7:04:08 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: sf4dubya

+1


47 posted on 09/09/2012 7:05:03 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Bobloblaw2012
What are you smoking? Romney could take a nap with the alarm set to Nov 1st right now and win this thing. I appreciate caution, but it is ridiculous to think Obama has a snowball's chance in Hades to win. More likely to get landsliden!

However, if Obama somehow pulls this thing off, kiss your republic goodbye!

48 posted on 09/09/2012 7:05:56 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Happy Rain

If Romney wrote this op-ed in the nytimes today, what do you think freepers would do to him:

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/29/opinion/why-i-m-for-the-brady-bill.html

But back to the OP. This poll is nothing more than a bounce, it will fade. So long as Romney does well in the debates, the economy will win it for the r/R ticket.


49 posted on 09/09/2012 7:07:07 AM PDT by jackmercer
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To: GlockThe Vote

Does anyone know what the current R/D/I is for Rasmussen polls?


50 posted on 09/09/2012 7:07:07 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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