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Why Men Will Never Fully Recover From The Great Recession
TBI ^ | 9-9-2012 | Ashley Lutz

Posted on 09/09/2012 6:17:29 AM PDT by blam

Why Men Will Never Fully Recover From The Great Recession

Ashley Lutz
Sep. 8, 2012, 9:46 PM

The recession affected men's careers the most, and the workplace will never be the same.

But men will never fully recover because the bad economy simply expedited something that had been happening for years, according to Hanna Rosin's new book The End of Men: And the Rise of Women.

Rosin explains in her book:

In the Great Recession, three-quarters of the 7.5 million jobs were lost by men. The worst-hit industries were overwhelmingly male and deeply identified with macho: contruction, manufacturing, high finance. Some of these jobs have come back, but the dislocation is neither random nor temporary. The recession merely revealed--and accelerated--a profound economic shift that has been going on for at least 30 years, and in some respects even longer."

The movement from a manufacturing economy to a knowledge-based one is what's really at work, Rosin said.

"The manufacturing economy will never operate how it used to, and men are accustomed to operating in a very narrow space," Rosin said in an interview. "The quality the workplace most values right now, flexibility, is something that women have, and men need to catch up to succeed."

The August jobs report revealed men's participation in the workforce to be at the lowest level since 1948, the Atlantic reported. The number of men in the workplace began declining in the 1950s, when women entered the workforce in droves.

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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KEYWORDS: employment; jobs; recession; recovery
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To: Last Dakotan

It seems like elites and politicians intentionally did away with manufacturing, if one stands back and looks at the whole picture, all the details, they have been systematically dismantling this nation for awhile, but why? I am not a conspiracy buff, but the evidence suggests they are doing it on purpose so as to attain a world made in their own image, I fear evil their intent!


41 posted on 09/09/2012 10:01:43 AM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: IslamE

The best way to de-fang a super power is to delete it’s manufacturing base.


42 posted on 09/09/2012 10:06:20 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JW1949
Notice how a big part of video games have females as the hero(ine)???? One insurance company’s TV commercials has the woman as the “tough” guy and the male as the useless side-kick....More and more fiction books are being written with female as the bad-*ss detective or the street smart attorney....

Have you noticed in commercials when there are whites and black both, its the white male who is always depicted as the loser dufus that doesn't know what he's doing and its the black male or female who is smart and has it all together and makes the right decision. Because to show it the other way around would be "raaaaacist".
43 posted on 09/09/2012 10:23:57 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: IslamE
True, that’s why affirmative action was put into place, it wasn’t to help minorities, it was in effect meant to hurt white males, affirmative action forced the hand of employers, now, minorities are entrenched in human resources where they are free to discriminate against white males.

Yep. The company I work for is a publicly traded company on the NYSE, and the majority of employees in HR are black females (with an attitude). Good luck filing a grievance if you're a white male.
44 posted on 09/09/2012 10:26:39 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Thank you, that was fascinating, it’s amazing how many single mothers there are now, it’s as if they are attracted to these matrilineal types of males, or they become bored with the patrilineal males. TV reflects it. Marriage is being destroyed as an institution, divide and conquer, it’s the liberal plan.


45 posted on 09/09/2012 10:33:05 AM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: PapaBear3625
"This is also why Obama is at war against small businesses, and the white males who (mostly) run them: they are too small to have their hiring and promotion decisions controlled by PC HR depts."

I read an article a couple years ago about this situation. It said that many White males that were discriminated against to accomodate less qualified AA types were forced into starting their own businesses just to have a job. The article went on to point out that many were quietly getting rich.

How sweet, eh?

46 posted on 09/09/2012 10:33:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: crosshairs

Thanks, I thought I was the only one who noticed that, I don’t watch TV for this reason and others, as a white male, they assault one’s confidence day in day out, it’s not conspiracy, they want whites to feel inferior. You see the Democrats are the party of the KKK, they are still racist, only now they want to enslave everyone on their plantation, even whites, then, the elites, the crop masters, can reap the rewards of total human servitude.


47 posted on 09/09/2012 10:41:59 AM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: crosshairs; JW1949; DarthVader; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; NFHale
I've been saying this for years: The garbage men and doormen are now the authority figures in TV and in movies.

Throw in the token queer as the moral ‘voice’, the female (more and more also a minority) that's in charge of it all and “PRESTO” the straight, white male is relegated to dunce status, although the honky’s confiscated taxes are welcome; someones gotta pay for social engineering after all.

November 2008 proved that life is stranger than fiction. I wonder if a recalibration is in store when the AA POTUS is shown the door in a couple months?

Like I've posted on FR many times, the majority of my TV viewing consists of NatGeoWild, MyTV and the Military Channel. PC hasn't infiltrated them...yet. And MyTV shows a vision of America..you know, the one when the evil, doofus white men were in charge.

48 posted on 09/09/2012 11:03:02 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Okay, a few issues. In my case, I was talking about organizational structure, not societal structure, which are two different things.

As far as an example of a matriarchal society goes, I would cite the Navajo (Dine) Nation. Its real authority lies with “the grandmothers”, who are the most respected elderly women within each of the extended families, usually around 300 people.

But they are not leaders, as such. Instead they form ad hoc areas of interest, in which those grandmothers who are interested attend. Decisions are by consensus, but are not mandatory. And yet tribal management is fairly effective. It is a very decentralized form of management.

They are not particularly troubled with irresponsible males any more than other Indian tribes.

However, there is a problem. Matriarchal organizations are unable to interface with hierarchical organizations, so the tribe created a hierarchical tribal council of men just to interface with other governments.

Another example of a functional matriarchal organization is the Rainbow Family. They use this inability to interface as a feature, not a bug. If they had “leaders”, the government would arrest them. But without leaders, the government just thrashes around and threatens them.

At the end of their event, they ask for a volunteer to drive their garbage truck, as a sacrifice to the government, because they know he will be declared a leader and arrested, possibly serving six months in jail.


49 posted on 09/09/2012 11:12:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Private sector unions are dead, remove that one from your list. Membership is below 7%.


50 posted on 09/09/2012 11:15:32 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Last American i dated gave me ulcers from the drama...Married a Polish one been together 20 years...


51 posted on 09/09/2012 11:19:21 AM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
I'm in my late 30’s and I've posted many times on this site I would never marry “in this country”.

You need to get out more. This country has every shape, size, color, class, political persuasion, hobby and interest, attitude that you could possibly want in a woman. You're either not looking hard enough or you're looking in the wrong places.

All these guys that go to third world countries and think they're all of a sudden Casanova because they were able to convince a woman in poverty to marry them make me laugh. Then they have the nerve to claim a higher sophistication with women over those of us who were perfectly capable of finding good home grown Americans princesses.

This whole idea that you are SO special that no American woman can possibly meet your needs is one big fat excuse for just not having any skills.

52 posted on 09/09/2012 11:19:52 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: GSP.FAN

My friend, you prove my point.

There is no need for psycho drama/trama in life.


53 posted on 09/09/2012 11:37:30 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: GunRunner

You need to get out a little more too. This is not 1985 and the era of mail order brides. I am not sure which “third world countries” you are referring but all but the poorest countries are more mobile now. Women in other countries have way more options these days and it “makes me laugh” to see those who are too provincial to realize it.


54 posted on 09/09/2012 11:44:56 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: GunRunner; GSP.FAN
I'm very happy with my current European g/f; I don't need to look. Nor is she (or any female I've been involved with) from a third world country.

And if you reread what I wrote, I did say there were quality American women, albeit they are in the minority.

Actually, it's a pretty damning indictment of just how far the liberals have succeeded in destroying our society when any segment of American men pass on American women and only look at imported ones.

55 posted on 09/09/2012 11:48:24 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: lodi90
No thanks. I'm happy in my own castle with my wife and kids. It's no skin off my back if guys want to outsource dating to China or Eastern Europe. But I'm amazed at guys who date for a while and decide that American women "just don't cut it". Yes, it makes me laugh because it's stupid.

What's more likely; that all American women are crazy bitches, or that you're just not looking in the right place or doing the things to make yourself attractive to quality American women?

The answer is easy.

And if it's "provincial" for a red blooded Texas conservative man to marry a beautiful red blooded Texas conservative Texas woman, then guilty as charged! Haha. You must be one of those "citizen of the world" types.

56 posted on 09/09/2012 12:06:10 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: GOPsterinMA
I think its great that you're happy. If you like European girls then go for it. I have a buddy who's always had great luck with Latin women. He likes them that way because that's what he's attracted too. But he doesn't dig Latin girls because of some animosity towards the entire American collective of females.

There's many tens of millions of single women in this country and to say that because you've dated a lot gives you a solid impression of what the "majority" of them are like is just statistically false and easily debunked by all the guys out there who love American women.

99% of the time, guys who've had bad luck with women, American or otherwise, are just looking in the wrong places. Have you been to any campaign events this season? Holy crap, I almost envied the younger guys just being reminded what's out there.

57 posted on 09/09/2012 12:34:58 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: SaraJohnson
Marriage and family is a driver for men to succeed

You're on to something here, Sara. Prior to my wife, I would often call off work, drink a lot on the weekends, spend more time on my computer than dating socially. Once my wife and I married, I go into work regardless of how I feel and quit a dead-end job to find a job that pays me 40% more than my last. I def. feel like I'm doing it for her more than myself.

58 posted on 09/09/2012 12:53:27 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Wait till you have kids, the motivation factor increases again.


59 posted on 09/09/2012 12:56:18 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
But they are not leaders, as such. Instead they form ad hoc areas of interest, in which those grandmothers who are interested attend. Decisions are by consensus, but are not mandatory. And yet tribal management is fairly effective. It is a very decentralized form of management.

In my work group, at one time we tried "decision-making-by-consensus". It finally devolved into a "dictatorship of the most obstinate" where the rest of us had to give in to one particular woman, but the group's decisions were labeled "consensus".

It has been my experience that it is harder to find a woman who is willing to make a decision and accept the consequences, than a man.

60 posted on 09/09/2012 1:57:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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