Posted on 09/09/2012 6:28:50 AM PDT by blam
This Is What A US Strike On Iran's Nuclear Facilities Could Look Like
Robert Johnson
Sep. 7, 2012, 10:50 AM
Washington D.C. foreign policy think tank the Center For Strategic & International Studies took a long hard look at what it really means to thwart Iran's nuclear ambitions, what it would take, and what it could lead to in a report released yesterday.
The speculation that Israel can go it alone against Tehran remains, but the specifics of what's required by a US attack to put the nuclear program in the dust is outlined in detail. At least 16 F-18s, and 10 B-2 bombers carrying 30,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs, would initially be required by US forces.
Iran's retaliation would be another story entirely with a massive incoming missile salvo directed about the entire region. When that happens a full Ballistic Missile War could ensue with untold US space, air, sea, and land elements coming into play.
Some illustrations of the possible outcomes are below.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Nothing about Russia in any of these scenarios. Or China. Or the NorKs. To discount any of them is foolish. Obama would be a complete moron to try to pull this off after diminishing our military budgets.
Their assumption misses one ace in the hole. One EMP over somewhere south and east of Isfahan. I am sure most of our naval assets are in some fashion capable of withstanding or quickly recovering from a low to medium grade EMP but I can guarantee you the Iranian civilian assets will not be. Utter chaos would ensue in Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz and Meshad and it would soon be all over.
bkmk
To answer your question, Russia is only in it for the oil. As they now have plenty of their own, Iran would be nothing more than collateral damage. Same goes for the Chinese and who really gives a flip, other than a flyswatter about the Norks? I mean really now. The reality is that an EMP could be used against the Norks and nobody would know the difference, except maybe at the palace.
Little or no chance now, with Hussein siding with Iran and all the rest of his Moslem buddies.
Meanwhile, the future is looking rather bleak for Israel - which continues, as always, to be our only RELIABLE ally in the Middle East.
Or, at least, it WAS our ally - until Obama shafted the Israelis.
Oh, I think that -- in the end -- things will work out OK for Israel.
Science fiction. Obama would never authorize anything that would help Israel. Just the opposite.
All this talk about EMP’s reminds me of the dreaded FAE, or Fuel-Air-Explosive. The device looked good in theory, and showed some promise in testing, but was never deployed because expected results were never guaranteed.
Trust me, I would love to see an EMP device used for the intended effect, but I wouldn’t put too much stock in it...
IMHO the first warning would be the shift of our naval forces out of the Persian Gulf into less restricted waters.
No matter how good we think our anti-missile weapons systems are, no sane naval strategist would want important assets stationed in there.
This is madness. No US Prsident would do this.
O will, on the other hand, authorize an action that will save his presidency and insure his reelection. A preemptive strike on Iran will solidify support for this madman, proving his willingness to oppose Muslims in their stronghold. A strike would turn the election upside down and guarantee his reelection. O knows this and will do so if the manufactured polls turn against him.
I would posit that they already have worked out - we just aren't aware of it yet...
The part that's missing is the untold asymmetrical warfare that would ensue on our own soil as a result of this.
” Obama would be a complete moron to try to pull this off after diminishing our military budgets.” OR a genius for moving his plan to destroy America ahead at a rapid pace!! Hope & change you never even thought possible with a “president.” I don’t trust this kenyan commie one iota.
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I am not so sure of that. Owebama is desperate. And what would boost him more right now than to ride in like the hero in support of Israel. There’s going to be a shoe dropped before November, and I wouldn’t put anything past Owebama. NOTHING! The man is desperate and he still owes too many people for these four years of fake glory and fame.
I might agree with that if Obama got to where he was alone, on his own merits. But the forces that got him there are thinking more long term. They don't want to harm Islam or empower Israel. They would rather sacrifice Obama and have Romney take the reins for a while.
Why does everyone assume there is going to be a war? Israel learned some very valuable lessons in 2009.
1. There are enough people in Iran who hate the mullahs.
2. Obama supports the mullahs. “It’s an internal matter”
3. Kill the mullahs and the Iranian people will rise up against the regime and probably win. “Remember, it’s an internal matter.”
4. Once you get the change in government, negotiate the nukes away for support of the new government in Iran.
5. Take out Nasrallah and other radical Islamists.”
6. Support a coup by the Egyptian and Syrian generals.
That will cause so much turmoil in the middle east that Israel would be safe for years and Hezbollah and Hamas would be neutralized.
And only 1 shot is fired.
Obama is a Marxist. As a Marxist, it is his philosophical duty to remain in power by any means possible. Not only is it his duty it is morally correct in the Marxist philosophy.
Something will happen between now and the election in November.
As I have aged I have come to believe there is little to limit madness. When we (US, Israel?) attack I suspect we will find the Iranians far farther along and much more dangerous then we ever believed.
It was successfully tested in the Pacific on a very remote island. In fact, it worked too good and they decided to never test it again because of the results.
and to think that that tiny nation has become the beacon of freedom and democracy, leaders of western man doing what America should be shouldering!
Sounds like that famous line from Aliens 2(?):
Nuke them from orbit; it's the only way to be sure.
Old school carpet bombing has worked out pretty well for us, and we have a lot of the good stuff we can drop on them. Think of it as a rodeo round-up, but with cowboys using bombers instead of horses. A few good bombing runs to scare the living sh!t out of them, and then some more to soften them up a bit. Add some Naval and Army ordinance, along with some Marines to plow the road, and it woud make for an interesting afternoon. Of course we have a spineless turd for a CIC, so all of this is just wishful thinking.
They were deployed:
During Desert Storm the Marine Corps dropped all 254 CBU-72
A real hoot would be one or two well placed EMP missiles that plunge Qom and Teheran into darkness, this is all you need in my opinion. Make Qom into an unlit zero-electric zero-electronics chaos, this will severely spook the Mullahs who run the show. These fat Mullah savages love modern comforts, modern transportation and modern communications. Take this away from Qom and you will undo the current rule by Mullahs
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Where is that from?
Just like all those fancy graphics at the top, someone probly just dreamt it all up. Found it on the web some late night and thought it looked cool.
I kinda hope that we actually do have more hi-tech/powerful weaponry than that floating around up there. And since this kinda thing is way above Obozo’s pay grade, he really doens’t need to know a thing about it.
“Obama would never authorize anything that would help Israel. Just the opposite.”
The big question is would our troops carry out orders that are ‘Just the Opposite’?
Orbiting nuclear platforms are banned by treaties but if there are any that mockup is a good representation. Too many fuel tanks though
I could certainly agree with that. But I’m afraid that Owebama is working a totally different track. He wants power here. Any way he can get it. If he can take the US down, his mullahs have free reign. He’s got to be in office to do it, though. And he’s no longer a hero. Somehow he has to become a hero again to Americans first. That’s dangerous.
The typical low yield EMP would have a 300 mile effective radius of the center-point of ignition at 20km altitude. One EMP could effectively turn out the lights on all the major population centers of the country.
Think the beauty of the plan is the US doesn’t have to launch the strike. And it gives Obama plausible deniablility in that all he has to say is it is an internal matter and the US had no involvement.
Mossad could easily do this and they have to have resources in the Iranian dissident movement.
No one wants to fire a shot. Too many lives would be destroyed and it would resonate globally. It should have been done in 2009. Could still happen in 2012/2013.
I don’t understand this “let’s not kill anyone but just scare em” stuff. I count successful strategic strikes in millions dead.
To erase Iran takes less than 50 warheads, and that’s with 100% redundancy.
Israel’s dolphins can do it on their own, with a fly time of less than 5 minutes.
LET THE GAMES BEGIN . . .
Hope you’re right. In the interim, things could get pretty hairy.
Yes, you’re absolutely right; Israel’s carrying the torch against the forces of evil - Obama’s buddies.
Thanks blam.
It is a disgrace to America that America fails to see precisely that.
What ever happens to them happens to western man. Any progress made by the west will go by the wayside,,,, after all the looting, chaos and obamaesque is done.
Zero foresight, zero forethought....zerobamathought.
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