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Do Undecided Voters Use the Internet?
Ricochet ^ | September 9, 2012 | George Savage

Posted on 09/09/2012 11:19:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Scanning my newspaper over coffee this morning, an Associated Press story from the campaign trail leapt off the page:

>>>SEMINOLE, Fla. -- Eager to change the subject after a dismal jobs report, President Barack Obama tried to rekindle some of the enthusiasm of his 2008 campaign Saturday with a bus tour through a must-win swath of Florida, urging supporters not to "buy into the cynicism that somehow the change we fought for isn't possible." Republican candidate Mitt Romney faulted both his own party in Congress and Obama for exposing the armed forces to huge spending cuts.<<<

Obama, speaking to a crowd of 11,000 at the Seminole campus of St. Petersburg College, gave Floridians a populist plea not to "turn away now."

"If you give up the idea that your voice can make a difference," Obama said, "then other folks are going to fill the void: the lobbyists, the special interests, the people who are writing $10 million checks, the folks who are trying to keep people from voting" and more.

Now consider this story, published just yesterday in the same newspaper, which portrays a specific example of cynical special interests worming their way into the heart of the federal fisc:

>>>Solyndra disclosed in court papers filed this week that Argonaut Ventures I LLC and Madrone Partners LP could reap hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks after Solyndra emerges from bankruptcy. Those tax breaks would be based on Solyndra's net operating loss carry forwards, which are estimated at between $875 million to $975 million. If Argonaut and Madrone were to generate an equal amount of income from future business operations totally unrelated to Solyndra, they could use those operating losses to cut their federal income tax bill by up to $341 million, according to court papers.<<<

Golly, I wonder who is behind Argonaut Ventures?

>>> Argonaut, which holds a 39 percent stake in Solyndra's parent company and joined with Madrone to provide bankruptcy financing for Solyndra, is an investment vehicle of the George Kaiser Family Foundation of Tulsa, Okla. The foundation is headed by billionaire George Kaiser, a major Obama campaign contributor and a frequent visitor to the White House.

As part of a February 2011 loan restructuring by Solyndra, Argonaut and Madrone provided some $70 million in financing that stands ahead of the money owed to U.S. taxpayers in repayment priority.

Under Solyndra's reorganization plan, the federal government would recover a maximum of about $24 million, less than 5 percent of the half-billion-dollar Department of Energy loan to Solyndra.<<<

Needless to say, net operating loss carry forwards are useless to proprietors of small businesses but a boon to those, like Mr. Kaiser, who have already made it--and could use some shelter from President Obama's plans to increase taxes on "millionaires and billionaires." Since Argonaut would not dispute that, with respect to this bankruptcy windfall, the firm "didn't build that," it's a safe bet that some significant percentage of the private profit cascading from the failed demi-billion-dollar federal loan to Solyndra will find its way back into Democratic party campaign coffers.

President Obama is running for president, challenging the cronyism of the corrupt incumbent--some fellow named Barack Obama (no relation). The question is: How can Obama-the-Challenger get away with his rhetoric given the immediate availability of contrary facts devastating to his argument?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cronycapitalism; obama2012; solyndra; taxbreaks
How many times can the taxpayers be screwed by crony "capitalist" supporters of Obama?
1 posted on 09/09/2012 11:19:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"How can Obama-the-Challenger get away with his rhetoric given the immediate availability of contrary facts devastating to his argument?"

The easy answer, IMHO: Because you have a liberal, "the-ends-justifies-the means" media willing to obfuscate and perpetuate his lies. And you have the easily, emotionally, and intellectually swayed who are prone to fall into liberal reasoning.

How many times can the taxpayers be screwed by crony "capitalist" supporters of Obama?

Thus far, enough times to run a $16 Trillion debt with more to come if he's re-elected.

It'll be a sad, sad day if that happens.
2 posted on 09/09/2012 12:11:41 PM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: Work for a successful 2012! +Throw the liberal garbage out!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anybody undecided at this point had better resign his status as a higher primate.

The choices are clear


3 posted on 09/09/2012 12:13:14 PM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, the ‘undecided’ do use the internet - they go on local newspaper sites - like this author wrote about - and read the ‘cute’ stories.....if a Conservative isn’t in those comment sections to shoot down the stories and show the links for why it is in error - or at the very least *cough* ‘just a tad bit’ bias....they will go onto the next article in line. If they find a comment there written by a Progressive - they are being further told ‘everything is alright - nothing to see here’

Undecideds are everywhere - they don’t read at FR and they don’t read at DU...they are reading MSM. We need to be there. The Progressives are....


4 posted on 09/09/2012 12:56:58 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

NO.... They’re too busy watching “DANCING WITH THE STARS” and “The Kardashians”
Undecideds are card carrying morons


5 posted on 09/09/2012 2:11:27 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller
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I think that the takers simply outnumber the makers in the large electoral Blue and Purple states. Obama only needs about 20 states to get his 270. Mitt has to work twice as hard because his Red state votes simply do not have as many electoral votes. The advantage is with the Liar in Chief. It seems people are not aware of this and we keep wondering about national polls. They mean zip. As long as Bama can manipulate the large electoral states he wins. It is as simple as than. Facts, mean nada to the moron vote. Nada.


6 posted on 09/09/2012 4:39:07 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have a hard time every election that believing anyone could possibly be undecided. But that segment of people is always there to fight over.
7 posted on 09/09/2012 4:42:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: libertarian27

“Undecideds are everywhere - they don’t read at FR and they don’t read at DU...they are reading MSM. We need to be there.”

Well said.


8 posted on 09/09/2012 11:18:55 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anyone who is “undecided” now has not been paying attention.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 10:44:06 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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