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PPP: Obama leads by 5 in Ohio (50-45)
PPP ^ | 09/09/2012

Posted on 09/09/2012 8:40:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

PPP's first post-conventions poll in Ohio finds Barack Obama with a 5 point lead over Mitt Romney, 50-45. This is the largest lead PPP has found for Obama in an Ohio poll since early May. Last month Obama led 48-45.

Both candidates have seen their images improve with Ohio voters in the wake of the conventions. Obama now breaks even in his approval rating at 48%, after being under water with 46% of voters approving and 51% disapproving of him a month ago. Romney's numbers are up from a 41/52 favorability rating a month ago as well, but he still remains unpopular. Only 44% see him favorably to 49% with a negative opinion.

Romney actually leads 46-44 with independents but Obama has the overall advantage thanks to a more unified party base. He leads 86/11 with Democrats, compared to Romney's 83/13 advantage with Republicans. Obama's 75 point lead within his own party is up from 70 points a month ago, suggesting that his party has coalesced around him a little bit more in the wake of a successful convention. By a 47/35 margin Ohio voters say they think the Democrats had a better convention than the Republicans.

Obama's leading in Ohio because he's not as weak there with some large voter blocs as he is in other states. He trails only 48-46 with men and 50-46 with whites, and actually leads 49-47 with seniors. His performance with those groups is far better than it is nationally- Romney would need much wider leads with them if he was going to take Ohio.

Despite chatter that Obama's convention speech was not up to his normal standards Ohio voters still say by a 60-31 margin that Obama gives better speeches than Romney. His position in the state may also be helped by the fact that the folks who gave the major convention speeches Tuesday night are more popular than he is: Bill Clinton has a 57/34 favorability rating and Michelle Obama's is 57/35. Romney's wife is an asset for him too- 54% of voters see Ann Romney favorably with 28% holding an unfavorable opinion. But Mrs. Obama wins out in the more popular wife category by a 49/41 margin. Out of the other Democrats who gave primetime speeches last week Julian Castro made the most positive impression and has a 28/17 favorability rating. Voters are split on Elizabeth Warren at 23/23 and Martin O'Malley doesn't seem to have attracted much attention with 86% of Ohioans saying they have no opinion about him one way or the other.

It's hard to see a path to victory for Mitt Romney without Ohio, and Obama continues to be in a strong position there with eight weeks to go.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; obama; oh2012; ohip; poll; ppp
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If Romney loses Ohio, the race is OVER.
1 posted on 09/09/2012 8:41:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

FULL RESULTS OF THE POLL INCLUDING METHODOLOGY, CAN BE FOUND HERE:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_9912.pdf


2 posted on 09/09/2012 8:41:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Internals please...


3 posted on 09/09/2012 8:42:15 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve been told to avoid social issues...that it was all “about the economy,Stupid”...

Now after a democrat convention featuring abortion,gay”marriage”,and birth control,we find ourselves losing??????


4 posted on 09/09/2012 8:44:49 PM PDT by massmike (The choice is clear in November: Romney or Caligula!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama’s blitzkrieg of ads in May/June/July did not give him a large
lead

but it made Romney make his convention an Oprah-fest

This wasted time that should have been to highlight Romney’s strength:
business, economics, taxes, growth, policies.

Not to make Romney “likeable”

Oh well.

Now Romney is “likeable” but he does not have competence
or freedom loving as his calling card

NO HERM CAIN, NO MICHELE BACHMANN, NO LOUIS GOHMERT

no Tea Party activists at the convention

They even shut out Ron Paul

Why you shut out Ron Paul activists, your own base I will never know
but Planned Parenthood, NARAL, were given speaking slots.


5 posted on 09/09/2012 8:45:08 PM PDT by preamble
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, that’s great news!

Hopefully the people of Ohio, not to mention America, are utterly stupid enough to re-elect The Destroyer and seal their fate, because they most certainly deserve it.

This election shouldn’t be even remotely close, and the fact that it is makes me disgusted at my country.

Utterly dizgusted.

*spits*


6 posted on 09/09/2012 8:45:48 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MNlurker

Another BS democrat-dominated poll. Move along. Nothing to see here.

If you are a Democrat, press 1. If a Republican,
press 2. If you are an independent or identify
with another party, press 3.
Democrat ........................................................ 41%
Republican...................................................... 37%
Independent/Other.......................................... 22%


7 posted on 09/09/2012 8:46:29 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: SeekAndFind

This should motivate the R/R team to work harder, put Romney’s name in the news more often.


8 posted on 09/09/2012 8:46:46 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: preamble

shutting out Rom Paul fans was a total shot. In the foot by mittens.


9 posted on 09/09/2012 8:47:15 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does it say if it’s likely or registered voters? This smells of registered voters. Anytime that Obama has had 50% in any poll, it’s registered voters.


10 posted on 09/09/2012 8:48:36 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: SeekAndFind

PPP...
Progressive Poop Proliferates!


11 posted on 09/09/2012 8:48:41 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: SeekAndFind

Likely voters - but no breakdown as to ‘rats vs ‘pubs - ask about favorability of Martin O’Malley and Julian Castro - but nothing about Republicans such as Marco Rubio or Mia Love - biased indeed.....


12 posted on 09/09/2012 8:48:55 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: SeekAndFind

The Dem +4 thing is not unreasonable. The split in the moderate contingent is really bizarre. 3-1 in favor of the Democratic positions on issues, that just does not fit what one would expect from the moderate segment of the electorate (unless numerous liberals are just so ashamed of the label that they delcare themselves “moderates”).

But the most astounding thing in this poll was “who is more responsible for bin Laden’s death - Obama or Romney?” If it was “Obama or Bush”, that would be a legit question. Nobody is claiming that Romney had a role in bin Laden’s death. It’s almost like a push poll question to make Obama look better than Romney in the eyes of the people being polled.


13 posted on 09/09/2012 8:48:55 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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No Palin at the convention either.


14 posted on 09/09/2012 8:49:19 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: SeekAndFind
Everyone has been saying it was going to show a 9 point lead all day in a panic. He makes it to 50 post convention bounce, which will not last - 5 is probably not even outside the margin of error.

Poll: Advantage Kerry in Ohio Race (Kerry 50%, Bush 47%)

15 posted on 09/09/2012 8:50:32 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney’s internals have Obama up 8. Romney has given up on PA. VA and FL are still leaning O’Idiot (barely). This one is toast. Hang in there til 2016 and never, ever, ever listen again to those GOP elite morons.


16 posted on 09/09/2012 8:50:45 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeekAndFind

If PPP has it 50-45, then you can bet the actual numbers are 47-48 or near that.

PPP is a outfit for daily kos and it has been to taken with a grain of salt.


17 posted on 09/09/2012 8:51:40 PM PDT by GregH
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To: preamble

Ron Paul activists are no more our base than Code Pink.


18 posted on 09/09/2012 8:52:11 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

I looked and I can’t find the voter break down. Given tat it is a PPP, they probably over sampled dems by several points.


19 posted on 09/09/2012 8:52:41 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: SeekAndFind

Agreed. Time to bring in Kascish and Santorum for a full-throttle campaign. The RNC and The Romney camp are asleep at the switch. Kerry would have been President (and John Edwards VP) had he garnered an extra couple of thousand votes in OH. OH is is MUST win or game over.


20 posted on 09/09/2012 8:52:44 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: SeekAndFind
C'mon, PPP, at least try to find some good data. Romney with a 2 point lead among independents, when every other pollster on the planet shows him leading by 15-20 points? And then, there is this:

Obama's leading in Ohio because he's not as weak there with some large voter blocs as he is in other states. He trails only 48-46 with men and 50-46 with whites

Absolute, unadulterated, bullcrap. There is no way Obama has anywhere close to those numbers with men and white voters.

I think it's entirely possible that Obama has a slight lead here, but nothing like 5 points. I would note, BTW, that PPP's final call of the Wisconsin recall showed Walker winning by 3 points, and his margin was closer to 7 points; the PPP pollsters are not known for being accurate.

21 posted on 09/09/2012 8:52:46 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Obama, a ship sailing on yesterday's wind)
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To: RIghtwardHo

It would actually be best for everyone to stop listening to you - you are miserable and just trying to make everyone else miserable for the heck of it. I remember your type running around here in 2000 and 2004 as well.


22 posted on 09/09/2012 8:53:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind
C'mon, PPP, at least try to find some good data. Romney with a 2 point lead among independents, when every other pollster on the planet shows him leading by 15-20 points? And then, there is this:

Obama's leading in Ohio because he's not as weak there with some large voter blocs as he is in other states. He trails only 48-46 with men and 50-46 with whites

Absolute, unadulterated, bullcrap. There is no way Obama has anywhere close to those numbers with men and white voters.

I think it's entirely possible that Obama has a slight lead here, but nothing like 5 points. I would note, BTW, that PPP's final call of the Wisconsin recall showed Walker winning by 3 points, and his margin was closer to 7 points; the PPP pollsters are not known for being accurate.

23 posted on 09/09/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Obama, a ship sailing on yesterday's wind)
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To: SeekAndFind
The party % breakdown from the Democrat polling company PPP:

"Q18 If you are a Democrat, press 1. If a Republican, press2.
If you're an independent or identify with another party, press 3.

Demrat ......................41%
Republican.................37%
Independent/Other.....22% "

Will this be the percentages for Ohio who vote on November 6th?

I doubt it.

24 posted on 09/09/2012 8:55:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: NKP_Vet
Another BS democrat-dominated poll. Move along. Nothing to see here.

If Rasmussen is correct with his numbers on party identification Romney is probable up a couple points in Ohio.

25 posted on 09/09/2012 8:56:07 PM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Romney and Ryan are practically camped out in Virginia. In fact, they are working out top three swing states and blue states that they are close or even You are full of it.


26 posted on 09/09/2012 8:56:07 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: GregH
Romney’s internals have Obama up 8. Romney has given up on PA. VA and FL are still leaning O’Idiot (barely). This one is toast. Hang in there til 2016 and never, ever, ever listen again to those GOP elite morons.

I know for a fact true internals have Romney up by 4 in Florida.

North Carolina is not a swing state over for Obama.

Remember Carter was up by 4 Points versus Reagan and I know Romney is no Reagan but as Rasumeen said its Romney's to lose

27 posted on 09/09/2012 8:56:13 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: RIghtwardHo; kingattax; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; onyx; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; ..

IBTZ!

We have someone here starting to get the ozone smell.


28 posted on 09/09/2012 8:56:43 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Steelfish
Kerry would have been President (and John Edwards VP) had he garnered an extra couple of thousand votes in OH.

Hardly...he lost it by about 118,000 votes.

29 posted on 09/09/2012 8:57:13 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Hard to see Romney winning in Ohio. I understand the Kasich is hated there and Republicans are highly unpopular. Where Scott Walker succeeded, Kasich failed.


30 posted on 09/09/2012 8:57:17 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: RIghtwardHo

Source?

RightwardHo, the election is 8 weeks away. R&R haven’t given up on anything.


31 posted on 09/09/2012 8:58:35 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: RIghtwardHo

What a buffoon you are.


32 posted on 09/09/2012 8:58:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: TonyInOhio

Even though this poll is pure BS of the first degree, because if skews towards democrats, it will be the talk of the news shows in the morning, even Fox News. This, coupled with Gallup’s latest numbers, will be all the talk you hear tomorrow. Romney might as well slit his wrists, the race is over for all intends and purposes. Listen to the media, and you will be drove crazy tomorrow about the Kenyan’s BOUNCE, versus no bounce for Romney. As for me I’ll watch Gunsmoke reruns for the next few days.


33 posted on 09/09/2012 8:59:29 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: RIghtwardHo

How do you know what Romney’s internals say?


34 posted on 09/09/2012 8:59:49 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: GR_Jr.
Hard to see Romney winning in Ohio. I understand the Kasich is hated there and Republicans are highly unpopular. Where Scott Walker succeeded, Kasich failed.

You're a frickin' troll.

35 posted on 09/09/2012 9:00:01 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL...One of the questions. Is this insane?

Q15 Who do you think deserves more credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden: Barack Obama or Mitt Romney?
Barack Obama................................................63%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 6%
Not sure .......................................................... 31%


36 posted on 09/09/2012 9:00:05 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: RIghtwardHo

I agree Obama will most likely win this one.

I disagree about 2016. By then there will be so many receiving government help that they would be too afraid risk jumping ships to a candidate who focus more on the private sector.

The only other option would be for the 2016 republican candidate to try to run TO THE LEFT of the democrat candidate. We do NOT want that.

We either win this one or lose at least the next few. We could be out for more than a decade. And by the time they do decide to vote for a conservative it will be a very ugly place to live in this nation of ours. Most likely by that time Americans will have found other places to live outside this country. It will NOT be a pretty picture.

Obama’s not the only one winning. The liberals are winning BIG TIME too. The fruits of their labor will begin showing in Congress by 2014 and 2016.

This election is very important.


37 posted on 09/09/2012 9:00:42 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: GR_Jr.
I understand the Kasich is hated there and Republicans are highly unpopular.

You "understand" incorrectly, on both counts, and I feel confident that Romney will carry the state. BTW, Kasich failed at nothing - he came into office with an $8 billion budget shortfall and balanced it without raising taxes. Ohio is currently leading the nation in job creation, to boot.

38 posted on 09/09/2012 9:00:55 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Obama, a ship sailing on yesterday's wind)
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To: SeekAndFind
By a 47/35 margin Ohio voters say they think the Democrats had a better convention than the Republicans.

What's wrong with so many Ohioans? You have to have a lame brain to think that.

39 posted on 09/09/2012 9:01:10 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: scooby321; RIghtwardHo

“Romney’s internals have Obama up 8. Romney has given up on PA. VA and FL are still leaning O’Idiot (barely). “

“I know for a fact true internals have Romney up by 4 in Florida”

So, how does everyone have the Team Romney internals???? Aren’t the called internals because only those in the camp see them, not the public?.......Just wondering


40 posted on 09/09/2012 9:01:29 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: MNlurker

Silver linings:
“Romney actually leads 46-44 with independents”

So it has to be at least D +5 to give Obama that 5 pt edge.

What SHOULD Ohio be?


41 posted on 09/09/2012 9:02:11 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Romney’s internals have Obama up 8. Romney has given up on PA. VA and FL are still leaning O’Idiot (barely).

Do you work for Politico, or just spout their crap?

42 posted on 09/09/2012 9:02:15 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Obama, a ship sailing on yesterday's wind)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I don’t know about ‘Right wing’, but your definite ‘Ho’ material.


43 posted on 09/09/2012 9:03:19 PM PDT by heights
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To: preamble
Why you shut out Ron Paul activists, your own base I will never know

You are delusional if you think Ron Paul activists are the GOP base. They are not even the Tea Party. This is a BIG misconception. you would never catch Tea Party folks cheering on Paul as he heralded Bradley Manning as a hero and blamed American imperialism for 9/11, as he did in his Tampa "rally".

44 posted on 09/09/2012 9:05:05 PM PDT by montag813
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To: TonyInOhio

“Kasich failed at nothing “

I apologize for not being more clear. I did not mean to say Kasich had failed over all. I meant that Kasich had failed to win popular support for his union and pension reforms unlike Scott Walker. I know his approval had slipped into the mid 30% range. Has that changed? What do you see out there that make you confident Romney will win OH?


45 posted on 09/09/2012 9:05:17 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: Numbers Guy
it they are asking who is more responsibe for osama's death, then the whole poll was tilted...suggestive....

polls are polls...

lets not be discouraged...

sure, we have our own people here on FR who will vote obama back in, they like to be sly about it, but we know who they are...and they indeed are ensuring the re election of that dictator obama...

its early....Romney will pick up steam....he's a better speaker...

I am praying that he suceeds....

46 posted on 09/09/2012 9:08:31 PM PDT by cherry
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To: NKP_Vet
Listen to the media, and you will be drove crazy tomorrow about the Kenyan’s BOUNCE, versus no bounce for Romney

Just don't listen. ;)

Look, there's no doubt about the full-court press on in the media - they dare not report the truth about the jobs numbers from Friday, so they had to capitalize on a slender convention bounce for Barry by calling the election over already.

Romney needs to tighten up his message, and I believe he will. As he gets back on the campaign trail (from which he's been absent for a few days) his large ad buys kick in, and Barry's bounce erodes, he'll be in fine shape heading into the debates.

47 posted on 09/09/2012 9:08:35 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Obama, a ship sailing on yesterday's wind)
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To: DarthVader

Time for the ole “troll-away” spray.


48 posted on 09/09/2012 9:08:54 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: preamble

I agree. Should have spent at least some time at the convention reminding people of what an aboslute far left radical BO is and given examples. Should have talked about his going around congress and making up laws as he goes. There was so much. I would have loved to hear Herman Cain. He was ahead until the media made up those stories about him. Where was Newt? It was a love fest without much meat and a great loss to remind people how dangerous BO is to our country.


49 posted on 09/09/2012 9:10:58 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: montag813

The Ron Paul activists worked for Code Pink.


50 posted on 09/09/2012 9:11:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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