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Flashback: Dukakis Led Bush By 17 Points After 1988 DNC
Newsbuster ^ | September 09, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 09/09/2012 9:13:44 PM PDT by barmag25

The media are gushing and fawning over new poll numbers showing Barack Obama getting a bounce from the just ended Democratic National Convention putting him four points ahead of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

Before they get too cocky, they might want to recall that after his convention ended in 1988, Democratic presidential nominee Michael Dukakis led George H.W. Bush by seventeen points.

The New York Times reported July 26, 1988:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; alteredsource; bush; bush43; dukakis

1 posted on 09/09/2012 9:13:45 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: barmag25
Guess that explains why Jon Lovitz said on SNL

"How am I losing to this guy?"

2 posted on 09/09/2012 9:16:11 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator

I am praying that Obama goes for a ride in a tank!


3 posted on 09/09/2012 9:17:19 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids will pay for it!)
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To: dfwgator

4 posted on 09/09/2012 9:22:06 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: volunbeer

Bush came back in that election because his advisor Lee Atwater had stones the size of watermelons. He knew if they could expose Dukakis’ far leftism, they would win easily. As Atwater said, “We are going to strip the bark of the little bastard.” It worked.

Problem this time is people know 0bama and his leftism. The demographics and political ideology in this country have shifted to the left a great deal. Being a liberal is not poison anymore.


5 posted on 09/09/2012 9:23:18 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: GR_Jr.
Lee Atwater

I loved that guy. They really don't make them like that anymore.

6 posted on 09/09/2012 9:27:38 PM PDT by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: barmag25

Dukakis jokes...

Q: What does “Dukakis” mean in Greek?
A: Mondale

If Dukakis gets elected, then his home state will be renamed to Machusetts. The “ass” will be in Washington.


7 posted on 09/09/2012 9:28:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: barmag25

I wonder how history would’ve turned out if Dukakis had won in 1988 instead. He probably would’ve been a disaster and we might have gotten a better GOP candidate than Bush in 1992 who might’ve won and later gotten re-elected. We also may never have had Clinton or Obama.


8 posted on 09/09/2012 9:28:46 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: barmag25

Heck, that’s nothing. Tomorrow’s Gallup Poll has Barky leading Romney by 92 points.


9 posted on 09/09/2012 9:28:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: GR_Jr.

I don’t think bush came back. I don’t think Dukakis ever had a lead.

Much like we are seeing today. I don’t think Obama has a lead either. I thinks polls are skewed and manipulated by dems.


10 posted on 09/09/2012 9:29:23 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: GR_Jr.

Valid points. However, Dukakis still looked like a dork and the image stuck. Obama has had numerous images like that and nothing seems to penetrate the teflon shell the media gave him in 2008.


11 posted on 09/09/2012 9:31:00 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids will pay for it!)
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To: dfwgator

Well, one pollster, Gallup, tried to report a real result a few weeks ago - with Romney 10 points ahead.

They got a couple calls - now they’re back in line with the rest of the pollsters.

http://patdollard.com/2012/09/justice-department-sues-gallup-after-axelrod-complains/


12 posted on 09/09/2012 9:37:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: barmag25

After voting Mc/Palin, I was exit polled by the AP. As soon as I started answering questions ‘conservatively’ the pollster stopped marking down the answers.

I poop you negative.

I think there’s some of that at work in the current polling. Pollsters simply inputting their own preferred data or moving on to the next ‘correct’ point of view.


13 posted on 09/09/2012 9:42:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: barmag25

Wasn’t the RNC convention ‘after’ the DNC one back in 1988? And, Bush bounced back quite well after his convention? If so, then this isn’t necessarily a good analogy to point to.


14 posted on 09/09/2012 9:45:06 PM PDT by greene66
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To: greene66

Exactly. The GNC was held after the DNC. Bush bounced over the little Greek dude after his convention and never looked back.


15 posted on 09/09/2012 9:53:16 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: barmag25

Hope Romney does not follow the example of McCain and his nice/soft campaign.

Attack, attack and attack... that is ithe only thing that works in politics.

If Romney is having the same McLoser advisors around him, he needs to wisen up and fire those idiots, a private sector guy like Romney should recognise such Mclame losers straight away.


16 posted on 09/09/2012 10:15:23 PM PDT by GregH
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To: barmag25
In other news, Dukakis trailed Bush by 20 points the day after this photo was released:


17 posted on 09/09/2012 10:20:41 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Romney was right about the Olympics, but neither the Brits or the Dems will admit it.)
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To: barmag25

Yeah, but Dukakis is down by 4 now.


18 posted on 09/09/2012 11:17:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: GR_Jr.

He came back because of Ronald Reagan. He realized he needed to pretend he agreed with Reagan in time to save himself.


19 posted on 09/09/2012 11:19:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: smoothsailing

no, he’ll lead by 234230482398402934832098402398432 points!!! Let’s curl up and die! /s


20 posted on 09/09/2012 11:21:07 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Those were great! Bumper stickers showed a man laughing his butt off with the caption: DUKAKIS for WHAT?!?!? (as in,
“You want it WHEN?”). Also “Dump The Duke”. A caller to the Jerry Williams show on WRKO Boston sang “Unelectable...” to the tune of “Unforgettable...”*

A joke from, of all people, Barney Frank:

“They want to depress the Central Artery? They should just have Mike Dukakis talk to it.” (Frank also quipped: “Depressing the Central Artery? Wouldn’t it be cheaper to raise the city?”)


*—also Howie Carr gave him the nickname Pee Wee as in Pee Wee Herman...piece that used to run on Jerry Wiliams show:

PEE WEE HERMAN: What’s the secret word for today?
DUKAKIS: Taxes...
(Sound effect: Woman screaming)
PEE WEE HERMAN: So when you hear the secret word...SCREAM REAL LOUD!


21 posted on 09/09/2012 11:24:17 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I thought Dukakis was Greek for Romney?


22 posted on 09/09/2012 11:24:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: GregH
If Romney is having the same McLoser advisors around him, he needs to wisen up and fire those idiots, a private sector guy like Romney should recognise such Mclame losers straight away.

As a private sectory guy, Romney doesn't know anything about politics. Politics is so complex with so many experts and masterminds running the show now, there's no way anyone can just step in and master it overnight. That's why we're better off with career politicians who live, eat and breathe this stuff as candidates, as long as they agree with our values. A private sector guy who's a newbie to politics is going to lose every time against a career politician who's paid attention to how to run campaigns all their life.

23 posted on 09/09/2012 11:34:36 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: JediJones

Yes that could be correct.

This could be a weak point, Romney does not really give the impression that he understands how the brutal world of politics operate and how the MSM will be making it harder for him.

One would think that he has the right advisors to guide him through, or he should able to see where McCain campaign failed.


24 posted on 09/10/2012 2:05:02 AM PDT by GregH
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To: JediJones; GregH

Romney is not a newbie in politics. He’s been a governor of MA and then running for a president ever since. Not to mention his attempt at senate race in 1994. This guy has been in politics for almost two decade. Whatever Romney may be, a political novice he is not.


25 posted on 09/10/2012 2:19:04 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: barmag25

Look at gallup’s history going back to 1948. Elections with no incumbent are very volatile. Only 1952 saw the eventual winner maintain a solid and consistent lead. In 1960, JFK and Nixon traded the lead weekly. In 1968, Nixon lead the entire election by as much as 15 points only to nearly lose it. In 2000, both Gore and Bush had 10 point leads at one point. I recall at one point Gore and Bush were even tied 44-44 in Illinois.

Using elections with no incumbent to try and predict this ekection won’t work.


26 posted on 09/10/2012 3:02:15 AM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: JediJones

LOL. I read some dumb things here on FR, but that there isn’t politics in business or that business isn’t cutthroat?

Are you George Stephanopolous?


27 posted on 09/10/2012 3:57:19 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: barmag25

28 posted on 09/10/2012 10:10:50 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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