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Obama's Certificate of Live Birth, another look
9/12/12

Posted on 09/09/2012 10:31:57 PM PDT by Impala64ssa



TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0scolb; afreakinaction; barackrupt; naturalborncitizen; vanity
I know that the whole birther thing is gettin old, but I just realized something. Has anyone noticed line 21, the signature of the local registrar, U K Le(?)Lee? What's up with that?
1 posted on 09/09/2012 10:32:02 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa
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2 posted on 09/09/2012 10:36:21 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Impala64ssa

It’s a “V” and her name is Verna. She’s still alive.


3 posted on 09/09/2012 10:36:46 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Impala64ssa
By the way, it is HIGHLY probably that this particular birth record originally belonged to Virginia Sunahara who was born on this day and died a few hours later. Note that the 'r' in 'Barack' is probably the same 'r' in 'Virginia' and only the rest of her name was changed to 'Ba_ack'.

It's doubtful that Aug. 4, 1961 is 0bama's real birth date but it BECAME so because Virginia's entire birth record was stolen and used for baby Barack.

4 posted on 09/09/2012 10:42:18 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Impala64ssa

If this were a trek in the woods, you’d probably notice the path was so well trodden as to be almost paved.


5 posted on 09/09/2012 10:44:41 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Impala64ssa
Try clicking on the hard link titled "natural born citizen".
All your questions will be answered. In the most details anyone could imagine.
6 posted on 09/09/2012 10:45:14 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

And she gave Sheriff Joe’s posse some very good info about the coding used in the boxes which gave hard evidence that “African” could not have been what was written in the box for race. The box indicating race was originally left blank according to the code.


7 posted on 09/09/2012 10:46:41 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

I know they have audio but they need to get her on video saying it, too. Just for the record.


8 posted on 09/09/2012 11:00:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: fireman15

Kenya until recently had laws prohibiting certain inter-racial marriages between “Europeans” and “Africans.” Anyone from the region of Kenya is accustomed to thinking of Caucasians as the “Europeans” and the non-Caucasians as “Africans.” Whomever it was that filled in the blank on the Certificate of Live Birth was using past and current Kenyan terminology for race and not the official terminology mandated by the U.S. Federal and State governments in the birth statistics regulations.


9 posted on 09/09/2012 11:26:03 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Impala64ssa

yes the ukelele thing has been pointed out before, but it is in your face evidence of the fraud and how obama doesn’t give a hang about the fraud or you


10 posted on 09/09/2012 11:35:00 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Impala64ssa

“African” is the terminology used by Kenyans to describe the race of non-Caucasians in Kenya versus “Eurropeans” used for Caucasians in Kenya, including Caucasians born as natives of Kenya. Ask yourself how many people you know about who would have had access to supply the information used in the faked Certificate of Live Birth and were also taught to use the Kenyan terminology for race? It’s a pretty short list, isn’t it?


11 posted on 09/09/2012 11:38:48 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Impala64ssa
I trust in Sheriff Joe, and based on other birth certificates issues at that time, I believe this certificate is a fake. But I also believe it was purposely manufactured to look that way to misdirect people away from the tricks that the 0 is really has up his sleeves.

November can't come any sooner.
12 posted on 09/10/2012 12:37:01 AM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: Work for a successful 2012! +Throw the liberal garbage out!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Note that the 'r' in 'Barack' is probably the same 'r' in 'Virginia' and only the rest of her name was changed to 'Ba_ack'.

If you can change all those letters in three names, why would you need to keep the 'r'?

13 posted on 09/10/2012 2:57:29 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: yldstrk

See post #3.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 3:00:21 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Impala64ssa

You wrote: “U K L Lee? What’s up with that?”

Errrrrr... I think you are a little late to the game?

Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse has found that “V K L Lee” is the signature of the Registrar, Verna K. L. Lee. The lead investigator talked to her and got interesting info about the small pencilled-in numbers in some of the blocks.

Bottom line: The certificate is a forgery.


15 posted on 09/10/2012 3:48:46 AM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: WhiskeyX
“Whomever it was that filled in the blank on the Certificate of Live Birth was using past and current Kenyan terminology for race.”

Either that or politically correct American terminology. African may have sounded less “racist” than negro and more official than black.

16 posted on 09/10/2012 6:42:14 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: hawaiianninja

Please note: it is not a matter of what anyone choosees to “believe.” It’s all about the plain and obvious evidence. Obama’s purported Certificate of Live Birth is such a bad forgery, it might just as well have also been invented as a Portable Document File (PDF) using the image of a brown Kraft paper background and a child’s crayon typeface for the substituted characters.

It appears likely that Barack Hussein Obama II (aka Barry Soetoro et al)supplied the information for the blank asking for the race. The terminology, “African”, was likely reused from elsewhare, such as his Kenyan birth certificate, and plugged into the faked electronic PDF birth certificate. Obama probably didn’t realize the race entry was filled out by the attending physician in accordance with the birth statistics rules, and those rules have no “African” race description for race. Instead, “African” is the race description used in official Kenyan documents to indicate a person was not a Caucasian or “European” as described in Kenyan legal documents.

Since Barack Hussein Obama II is likely to be the only person in the White House who could have had a role in preparing the forged Live Certificate of Birth and also would have been acquainted with the Kenyan terminolgy for race, he is very likely to be the person responsible for supplying Kenya’s “African” description of race inserted into the forged document.


17 posted on 09/10/2012 7:11:20 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Her name is Verna K. Lee she's still alive at 95 years old.
She talked about those pencil marks on Obama's supposed birth certificate with the # 9.
She says that when he office back in 1961 put the mark and # 9 it meant incomplete or unknown.
18 posted on 09/10/2012 7:14:27 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Believe it or not you have some guy named Mr. Conspiracy trying to debunk anything or all things birther.

He seems to be a self appointed authority to debunk birhters and anything related to any conspiracies surrounding Obama.
Most of us would take a good guess that he's probability getting paid from some sources or groups to do this.

Just like the paid lawyer hacks who go around here on FR to stir the pot here to run interference for those who don't want the truth to be known.
19 posted on 09/10/2012 7:20:54 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: cynwoody

that made me literally LOL


20 posted on 09/10/2012 7:34:48 AM PDT by LivingNet
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To: cynwoody; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; butterdezillion; All

paved? there is a lot of new things,
that weren’t discussed before.
like how the fake CT SSN relates.
and especially, about Sunahara,
as GeorgeWashingtonsGhost points out.
(Butterdezillion has done some amazing research.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/sunahara/index?tab=articles
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and why is Boehner helping Obama ?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2928780/posts
Mike Zullo says Boehner blocking Obama investigation


21 posted on 09/10/2012 8:48:56 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cynwoody

and what about this?
this still isn’t known by most people:
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http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/07/obamas-kenyan-birth-records-discovered.html
OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES


22 posted on 09/10/2012 9:05:13 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Elendur

and if all the skeptics,
think this is all old news,
and “nothing will ever come of it”,
then,
WHY do they keep reading these articles,
and taking time, to make their negative comments?
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are they simply altruistic,
and are trying to help us,
to not waste our own time?


23 posted on 09/10/2012 9:19:39 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Right Wing Assault
It's silly to retain the 'R' but for some reason this particular 'R' separates to a different layer when the pdf is analyzed. Could just be that the forger attempted to retain as much of the original information as possible or to use the 'R' as a guide for character spacing.

From what I understand, there is no microfiche/film for 0bama's birth certificate. THAT is proof of fraud and the certificate # for 0bama would be out of sequence from the Nordyke twins due to it really being for a dead baby, Virginia Sunahara. Where's HER birth certificate and why haven't we seen it???

24 posted on 09/10/2012 9:44:35 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Elendur

Boehner is helping 0bama because he ‘likes’ 0bama as someone to golf with and does not want the Republicans to appear ‘racist’ leading up to the election. Of course the Republicans WILL ALWAYS FIND A REASON NOT TO PURSUE IMPEACHMENT OF 0BAMA OR HOLDER OR ANYONE BLACK.


25 posted on 09/10/2012 9:47:08 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: fireman15
According to Instruction Manual, part 3a:
CLASSIFICATION AND CODING INSTRUCTIONS FOR BIRTH RECORDS, 1999-2001, the designation of “Black” is the “official” terminology required to be used in some recent vital statistics reporting in the most recent two or three decades.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/3amanual.pdf

Race and Ethnicity Classification Consistency Between the Census Bureau and the National Center for Health Statistics; Larry Sink; Administrative Records and Methodology Research Branch, Population Division, U.S. Bureau of the Census, Washington, D.C. 20233; February 1997; POPULATION DIVISION WORKING PAPER NO. 17.

http://www.census.gov/population/www/documentation/twps0017/index.html

In 1976 the vital statistics used Negroe as the race identifier.

The only relevant terms authorized for official use in the vital statistics of the United States between 1960 and 2000 were Negroe and Black.

One of the first things learned in the Black American Studies, African History class at a university during the social changes of the late 1960s and early 1970s is the multi-racial nature of Africa's population throughout history. You also learn how slavery in Africa was endemic and a major part of the Arab-African economy in North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa. The usage of the term “African” versus “European” to designate a non-White person was a colonial racist practice. The recent practice of using African-American as a designation for race constitutes a continuation of this historical colonial racism. A person can be designated as a Kenyan-American without denoting the race of a person, just as being an Anglo-American does not necessarily disclose the fact a person is a descendant of English and Gambian grandparents in the British Bahamas in 1712. In actual fact, the term, African-American, encompasses all human beings all of whose ancestors came from Africa. More recent generations of African-Americans include a variety of races, cultures, and nationalities. Using the African-American terminology to designate the black or negroe race to the exclusion of all other races native to Africa is historically false and racist in its effect upon all races. In the bizarro world of political correctness, such an oxymoron appears to be typical abuse of the language and the races.

26 posted on 09/10/2012 12:36:44 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

thks for the post


27 posted on 09/10/2012 5:43:03 PM PDT by bitt (These Commies are making it impossible to stick to my self-imposed moratorium on foul language)
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