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Operation Demoralize Is Working Just as Planned
PJMedia ^ | September 9, 2012 | Ed Driscoll

Posted on 09/09/2012 11:17:24 PM PDT by 867V309

...So if you’re feeling nervy, irritable, depressed and/or tired of life by the polls this weekend, well, that’s just how the MSM wants you to feel right now.

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KEYWORDS: drivebymedia; fooledagain; pollslie
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1 posted on 09/09/2012 11:17:28 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: 867V309

I know my concern and panic is exactly what the MSN wants. Not so concerned about the Gallup and Reuters numbers. It’s the fact Rasmussen has 0bama up 5 and at a 52% approval rating that has me panicked.


2 posted on 09/09/2012 11:25:39 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: 867V309

They also have their lib poser, “concern trolls”, ABR opportunists, and other woe is me type on FR trying to get something going.


3 posted on 09/09/2012 11:25:54 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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My tag:

Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don’t get it, don’t spread it!


4 posted on 09/09/2012 11:28:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: GR_Jr.

Will you give it up.

You must have been on FR for the past 10 hours running this
concern troll act.

If you are really so “panicked” then you wouldn’t need to be here.


5 posted on 09/09/2012 11:29:00 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 867V309

I also just now saw the overnight re-run of the Meet the Press Interview wherein it has been pounded upon that Romney said he was going to keep Obamacare. He said nothing even remotely similar to what so many have been spreading around here. In response to a question from David Gregory about repealing Obamacare, Gregory said “So you are telling people with pre-existing conditions and parents keeping their children on their plans they will lose their health insurance?” to which Romney said that was incorrect - he said he would replace it with his own plan and expand free market opportunities for people to have the choice of purchasing outside of their employee plans with the same tax advantages. Completely different from what so many here have been saying all day.


6 posted on 09/09/2012 11:31:27 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: GR_Jr.

Rasmussen has the Dems holding the Senate right now as well.


7 posted on 09/09/2012 11:31:30 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Kick Obama out of the White House in 2012.)
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To: GR_Jr.
I know my concern and panic is exactly what the MSN wants

If you know you are in pig shit....you should probably get out.

Just stating the obvious...to me.

8 posted on 09/09/2012 11:31:49 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: VanDeKoik; tsowellfan; RIghtwardHo
They also have their lib poser, “concern trolls”, ABR opportunists, and other woe is me type on FR trying to get something going.

Ain't that the truth.

See:

tsowellfan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2928820/posts

and

RIghtwardHo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2928774/posts
9 posted on 09/09/2012 11:43:22 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: 867V309

Polls don’t depress me.

The Dems knocking on my Nevadan door once per week depress me.

Wake me when the ground war starts... I’ll bring popcorn...


10 posted on 09/09/2012 11:43:42 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: 867V309

The Republicans de-moralized themselves when they nominated Romney.


11 posted on 09/09/2012 11:46:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The opposite of compromise is character." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: GR_Jr.

I question the motives of anyone who claims to be a Romney supporter yet implies Romney’s really ahead, not to worry. Heck, he’s so far ahead he does not even need your vote so just don’t believe those polls showing Obama ahead. He’s losing BIG TIME.

Okay, so I guess their message is “no need to work harder”.

Better to play it safe and believe all polls that have Obama ahead. The worst that could happen is Romney will win in a 49 state landslide.

I would hate to think of what the results would be for those claiming that all polls showing Romney behind are lies. Move on, nothing to see here. Maybe an Obama landslide?

Play it safe. Use the data to benefit our side. Does that make sense to you?

I’m not taking any vacations anytime soon from this election. But it’s time those telling us Romney’s got it in the bag go and take one. They disturb me.

We did not win in 2004 or 2010 using that “nothing to see here” philosophy. We took all bad news seriously.


12 posted on 09/09/2012 11:49:25 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I think some Dem Underground plants have sneaked in. Posting misleading threads like “Romney says he’ll keep Obamacare” is just a weak attempt to demoralize conservatives. Like you said, when you actually look into these dumb claims, they don’t hold water. Dukakis got a mammoth convention bounce and still got his ass kicked. We still have two jobs reports, and if the last few years are anything to go by, the “recovery” stops dead at this point.


13 posted on 09/09/2012 11:51:00 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GR_Jr.

All this polling crap is just noise.

It is too far out to mean much of anything.

If Romney makes a fool of himself in the coming debates then worry. Its just wasted effort now.


14 posted on 09/09/2012 11:57:01 PM PDT by DB
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To: EternalVigilance

Hey, ev, man-up and quit whining.


15 posted on 09/09/2012 11:57:26 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: GR_Jr.

1. Polls can change over night.
2. Conventions distort polls - the candidates of each party get loads of praise and tons of face time which carry over to the polls. I suggest that the polls starting next week will carry far more information.


16 posted on 09/10/2012 12:06:13 AM PDT by monocle
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To: 867V309

I knew we were in for a big swing against us in the polls as soon as I saw the Michelle Obama speech, and then doubly so after Bill Clinton’s. They were highly effective speeches that did exactly what they needed to do to both energize the Democrat base and convince people who don’t pay attention that Obama is a better alternative to not just Romney, but any and all Republicans. The Democrats seem to have highly skilled, ruthlessly deceptive, media masterminds running their campaign. We have a fat, bald dope named Karl Rove who’s gearing up to lose his 4th straight election (2 to the Democrats, 1 to the Tea Party) and has never once made an effort to change his strategy despite his consistent losses. Rove needs to be thrown under the bus once and for all.


17 posted on 09/10/2012 12:06:50 AM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: 867V309

Just stating the obvious truth.


18 posted on 09/10/2012 12:12:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The opposite of compromise is character." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: JediJones

You missed the whole point of this post.


19 posted on 09/10/2012 12:13:12 AM PDT by 867V309
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To: EternalVigilance

Only weak-minded people de-moralize themselves...


20 posted on 09/10/2012 12:15:38 AM PDT by 867V309
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To: 867V309

Okey dokey.

Good night.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 12:17:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The opposite of compromise is character." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: 867V309

This is what the media wants..remember we have been hearing for a while how the Dems are NOT enthusiastic about Obama, that he has to drag out Clinton in order to have any chance. Now they are doing the same thing to us, bring out some fake polls showing Obama leading to make US less enthusiastic about voting. Just go out and vote, enough with the BS polls. I remember this same nonsense working for the Dems in 2008. I remember hearing on the radio Republican after Republican telling Mark Levin and Rush “I wont go vote, there is no point, Obama’s already won” maybe if enough people had come to the polls than we would have won. Let’s not make the same mistake twice, just forget about the polls and vote and whatever happens happens


22 posted on 09/10/2012 12:19:07 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: EternalVigilance

Night, and God bless.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 12:19:51 AM PDT by 867V309
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To: Osage Orange

Your #8 is a paragon of wisdom.


24 posted on 09/10/2012 12:21:09 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Completely different from what so many here have been saying all day.

Makes one wonder, doesn't it?

Who are the agents provocateur?

And who are the easily misled?


25 posted on 09/10/2012 12:23:19 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Right you are. Remember how Walker was going to lose the recall in Wis. right up until he won by 7 points?

It's the same thing, over and over, and they are so predictable.
26 posted on 09/10/2012 12:24:45 AM PDT by 867V309
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To: GR_Jr.
I didn't see the internals on how many democrats,republicans or independents they included in their latest poll do you have the breakdown?
27 posted on 09/10/2012 12:37:31 AM PDT by funfan
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Of course that’s what they want but will it work? Is there a single person here who really won’t go to the polls? I think not.

That might work for the libtards that would rather stay in bed all day after hitting the crack pipe most of the night, but us? True patriots, no way.

In 2010 all I heard was how we would lose, how did that work out? Then Scott Walker recall election? Even the exit polls showed they were tied. If the American people were not happy with Obama and his cabal in 2010, they sure as hell are not happy with him now.

Nobody who voted for McCain will cast a vote for Obama, he can’t carry all the states he had in 08 and no way does he have the support he had in 08.


28 posted on 09/10/2012 12:39:18 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: GR_Jr.; tsowellfan; RIghtwardHo
I know two individuals who seem to be members of the demoralizisation cabal.

One of them refuses to back up a specious claim, and also refuses to retract, making them a baldfaced liar.

We may have seminar posters on board.

29 posted on 09/10/2012 12:40:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: funfan; GR_Jr.

It +4 not 5 and Scott Rasmussen said a few days ago to expect a Clinton/Obama bounce that would last a week or two.


30 posted on 09/10/2012 12:42:39 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Lazamataz

>> the demoralizisation cabal.

Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don’t get it, don’t spread it!


31 posted on 09/10/2012 12:42:48 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: funfan

as much as I hate to say it, if republicans are demoralized by polls that don’t mean sh.t they need to take a political break for a month and live their lives...


32 posted on 09/10/2012 12:45:53 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly. RIghtwardHo (Leftward whore)is a drive by troll. Do not expect a reply from him/her.


33 posted on 09/10/2012 12:46:42 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
In response to a question from David Gregory about repealing Obamacare, Gregory said “So you are telling people with pre-existing conditions and parents keeping their children on their plans they will lose their health insurance?” to which Romney said that was incorrect - he said he would replace it with his own plan and expand free market opportunities for people to have the choice of purchasing outside of their employee plans with the same tax advantages. Completely different from what so many here have been saying all day.

I went ahead and watched the interview thinking that I might have been misled by the earlier posts. I was wrong. Your post was the misleading one. Romney was quoted accurately in the earlier posts while you just skipped the parts of his statement that you didn't like, the parts where he said he would cover pre-existing conditions under his plan and cover people in a family up to "whatever age they might like." You also skipped the part where he cited Romneycare as an example of a plan where he was able to cover pre-existing conditions.

Which begs the question I asked earlier. How can Romney's new plan cover pre-existing conditions without a mandate? The whole purpose of the mandate in both Romneycare and Obamacare is to provide enough funding to the insurance companies so that they can afford to cover pre-existing conditions without going bankrupt. The insurance companies said they would not agree to the pre-existing condition rule in Obamacare without the mandate in there guaranteeing funding from a wider customer base who was forced to sign up and from the penalties they would pay for not signing up.

34 posted on 09/10/2012 12:48:19 AM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: goat granny

Good advice granny.


35 posted on 09/10/2012 12:48:22 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I don’t believe that 9.5 million people were so demoralized by polls that they stayed home instead of voting for McCain/Palin.


36 posted on 09/10/2012 12:51:19 AM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: 867V309

No, I didn’t. I’m a realist and I don’t make judgments based on emotion, be it demoralizing or cheerleading for one side or the other. The MSM also wanted Obama to win in 2008 and he did. They get what they want sometimes. The polls are an obviously accurate and easily predictable result of the Democrats producing a far more effective convention when it comes to making themselves look like the better choice in November to persuadable voters.


37 posted on 09/10/2012 12:54:36 AM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: 867V309

That is so true. Remember for weeks before the primaries the polls showed that Romney was the only candidate that could beat Obama? I wonder how many votes that influenced.


38 posted on 09/10/2012 1:01:17 AM PDT by brightright
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To: tsowellfan
We did not win in 2004 or 2010 using that “nothing to see here” philosophy. We took all bad news seriously.

No we didn't.

"We" won because every day "we" were out there engaging anyone and everyone with the messages that "our" candidates were better choices, that "our" stands on the issues were the correct views to hold, and that "we" were going to win (with their additional vote, thank you).

39 posted on 09/10/2012 1:06:16 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: sf4dubya

“The Dems knocking on my Nevadan door once per week depress me.”

The solution to that is you going down to your Republican Party/Romney campaign office, getting some literature, etc. and maybe some other folks and go knock on doors for OUR SIDE.

It’s actually kind of fun.


40 posted on 09/10/2012 1:07:55 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: JediJones
I don’t believe that 9.5 million people were so demoralized by polls that they stayed home instead of voting for McCain/Palin.

Maybe not, but how many were suckered in by: "Hopey-Changey", racial guilt and media hype?

And who can forget this?


41 posted on 09/10/2012 1:11:23 AM PDT by 867V309
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To: 1035rep
How can he predict a bounce to last 2 weeks?

I just want to know the sample of Democrats vs Republicans it would be helpful if they had that information on the poll makes me think they don't want you to have that information. Doesn't really matter to me as I am a more than likely voter I am a for sure voter and I will vote for Romney right after I vote NO for Jerry Browns tax increase and a NO vote for Molly Mungers tax increase, and a NO vote for our County tax increase. Yes I will be voting no matter what :)

42 posted on 09/10/2012 1:13:31 AM PDT by funfan
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To: EternalVigilance
The Republicans de-moralized themselves when they nominated Romney.

The conservatives-wing of the party de-moralized themselves when they failed to defeat Romney. Some accepted and moved on. Others still behave like sour grape.

43 posted on 09/10/2012 1:15:15 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: JediJones
No, I didn’t. I’m a realist...

Yes, you did.

Instead of addressing the issue of 'result driven polls', the topic of this thread, you decided to embark upon a screed about how convincing the Star Wars bar scene called the "Democrat Convention" was.

That, my FRiend, is missing the point.
44 posted on 09/10/2012 1:18:42 AM PDT by 867V309
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To: 867V309
This is an echo of the psyops column that was on Townhall over the weekend. The Democrats and the MSM want to depress Romney voters into staying home by making them think that Obama has a bounce, because they know Democrats are losing the enthusiasm battle.

-PJ

45 posted on 09/10/2012 1:21:28 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: funfan

The information is there but only for “platinum members”

Rasmussen explained the coming bounce on FOX News but I only caught portions of the segment because I was doing other things.


46 posted on 09/10/2012 1:21:37 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: meadsjn

YES, we did.

We assumed the worst and worked as if the bad news was true. Of course we always suspect the polling data was manipulated. When is it not? But we still worked as hard as possible as if it were true.


47 posted on 09/10/2012 1:23:00 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: brightright

Of all the people that were actually running (so not Palin, not Christie, not Hologram Reagan) who would be doing better against Obama right now?

I thought Perry was the God-send, but he was DREADFUL. That wasn’t Romney’s fault, that was Perry’s fault.

Prior to that I liked Pawlenty, I thought he was the anti-Obama, the complete opposite, well he wouldn’t say “Obamney-care” to Mitt’s face so clearly he wouldn’t say “boo” to a ghost.

I like Santorum too, I sent Santorum money (not much) so that is true support. But....he couldn’t seal the deal.

I suppose I should mention Ron Paul, but in all the years he’s been around he’s never found a way to broaden his appeal. I think he’s basically a professional crank and happy to be one. Maybe his son (whom I love) can go further.

And I don’t know what someone was talking about (here, elsewhere, somewhere on FR) but the party didn’t give Romney any money during the primaries.

The voters chose Romney, he wasn’t selected in a smokey backroom. And Romney chose Ryan, who is great, I don’t think anyone else would have done that.

And by far the best thing about Romney - and he himself should make more hay of this - is that fixing messed up things is what he’s really good at. It’s been his entire career and he’s been very successful.

Isn’t that what we need now, someone to fix our completely financially messed up country?

I really think we should be excited about giving Romney a chance to bring his expertise to bear on things. I’ve come to the conclusion that he really is THE best man for the job, probably the best in the whole country as a matter of fact.

Further, he’s a sober, clean-living, honest, kindly guy.

As for all the social squishy-ness about him, one after the Sandra Fluke war-on-women stuff he can be as right wing as he likes and just watch them stew.

For the rest of it we’ll just have to stay vocal and active.

Don’t forget we ALL share part of the blame for where this country is right now. I know that for years even though I paid attention, I didn’t really pay attention I just read the headlines and all the while I always thought “they’ll figure it out”. But, they didn’t figure it out at all, they just kicked the can down the road as the saying goes.

It’s going to be a long, hard slog to get this nation turned around. But for sure getting rid of Obama is a big part of that.


48 posted on 09/10/2012 1:28:20 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: JediJones
I don’t believe that 9.5 million people were so demoralized by polls that they stayed home instead of voting for McCain/Palin.

They were demoralized by McCain being the nominee.

Only an idiot can be demoralized by a poll. If I saw the polls looked bad it would encourage me to vote and bring family and friends with me.

"Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls"

I suspect they did not vote for McCain because they did not like him. Me, I held my nose. That there told me he'd lose.

49 posted on 09/10/2012 1:29:36 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: VanDeKoik

All of the “My guy lost the primary so I must help defeat Romney so then I can say I was right that my guy should have been the nominee” ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF SCUM!


50 posted on 09/10/2012 1:40:03 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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