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More Dems Jump Ship to Join Brown (any Republicans for Warren?)
GoLocalWorc ^ | 9/10/12 | Adam Drici

Posted on 09/10/2012 9:52:20 AM PDT by raccoonradio

The recently rolled out "Democrats for Brown" coalition has racked up nearly 500 Democratic politicians and grassroots supporters statewide.

Representative Chris Fallon was the first Democrat currently serving in the State Legislature to cross over when he gave his public endorsement to Republican Senator Scott Brown late last week. Fallon joined the likes of Springfield's former Democratic Mayor Charlie Ryan and Boston's Ray Flynn, as well as Worcester's own former Mayor and current City Councilor Konnie Lukes, who appeared in one of Brown's campaign ads earlier this election cycle.

The three former mayors will serve as co-chairs of the newly-formed coalition.

"I'm truly honored to receive the support of so many Democratic leaders across our state," Brown said in a press release.

"During these challenging economic times, we need to be working with - not against - each other to get things done for the people we represent. We need more bridge-builders and fewer rock throwers. I'm extremely grateful for the support of these Democrats, and pledge to continue working across party lines with any person of good will to find common ground and move our country forward."

Aiming to Cross the Aisle

The creation of the "Democrats for Brown" coalition is the latest in a series of moves by the Brown campaign to emphasize the Republican Senator's work with, and support from, Democrats in the Bay State.

While the message has been all about Democrats crossing the aisle, its real target is likely the independent and undecided voters straddling the middle.

In Massachusetts, registered Democrats, with 1,486,648 voters on the rolls, outnumber their 471,829 Republican counterparts by more than a 3 to 1 margin.

The 500 Democrats who have come out in support of Brown make only a negligible dent in their party's numbers advantage.

With this year's Massachusetts Senate race coinciding with the presidential election, Democratic hopeful Elizabeth Warren is positioned to benefit from President Barack Obama's name at the top of the ballot.

Courting the Middle

However, the Commonwealth's nearly 2.2 million unenrolled voters dwarf the numbers of both major parties, and how they vote is widely predicted to be the deciding factor in the Brown-Warren race.

By appearing equally at home working with Republicans as well as Democrats, said Morgan Marietta, a professor of Political Science at UMass-Lowell, Brown is improving his chances among voters who may feel allegiance to neither party.

"Brown is the everyman who simply wants good government and will work with everyone to make it happen," he said.

"The Brown campaign is consistently communicating to both his base and independents, while Warren has been concentrating more on her base of support among traditional liberals."

Brown's efforts seem to be paying off as recent polling has shown the Senator with a several point lead over his opponent Warren.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: crossovervote; democrats; elizabethwarren; ma2012; scottbrown
Any Republicans for Lieawatha?

>>working across party lines

True, and accusations of being a RINO. Question: Will Liz say she'll work across party lines or will she vote solid moonbat?

>>its real target is likely the independent and undecided voters straddling the middle.

>>However, the Commonwealth's nearly 2.2 million unenrolled voters dwarf the numbers of both major parties,

UNENROLLED: nearly 2.2 mil DEMS: 1.5 mil GOP: 471 thousand

1 posted on 09/10/2012 9:52:26 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio; Andonius_99; Andy'smom; Antique Gal; Big Guy and Rusty 99; bitt; Barset; ...

Howie Carr list ping


2 posted on 09/10/2012 9:54:56 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Brown is a pro “choice” republican who says we need to be more tolerant of “good” abortion supporters.

I guarantee, he’ll be a democrat inside of a decade.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 9:58:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: raccoonradio

Warren is going to lose. Even the Democrats know this. She was given a prime spot on national TV and bored the crap out of everyone.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 9:58:19 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: raccoonradio

You ask if there are any Republicans for Warren. Just wait and you will see them show up on this thread — conservatives who can’t get over the fact that Brown is not a 100% “conservative” and thus, he does not deserve support. Brown is as good as it gets for a Republican in MA. The alternative to Brown is not a more conservative Republican senator, its a raging liberal Democrat.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 9:59:07 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: cripplecreek

If Warren wins, she will be a Senator until she joins Ted.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: raccoonradio
any Republicans for Warren?

Does it count if they're 1/32 Republican?
7 posted on 09/10/2012 10:02:51 AM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: Perdogg

Fortunately it isn’t my problem which democrat they choose since that’s the only choice they have.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 10:03:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: raccoonradio

Warren’s got the Native American vote sewed up doesn’t she? And big campaign bucks from the N-A casinos must be flowing in to her HQ too.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 10:08:31 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s unlikely he’d switch parties. You’d have to fight through the rodent party zoo to get the nomination and he’s not moonbat enough.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 10:11:59 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: raccoonradio

The MSM does not have the mental capacity in their worldview to see anything but the pro democrat party lens.

for the MSM the abnormal is normal.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 10:20:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cripplecreek
I guarantee that if Brown were more conservative, the MA GOP would have recruited someone to run against him in the primary!

Everyone says a conservative can't win in MA; as far as I can see, the main reason is that a conservative can't get nominated -- by either party!

The MA GOP (IMO) has much to answer for in foisting Mitt on the nation . . . gave him his political start.

12 posted on 09/10/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by maryz
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To: raccoonradio; All

So far Boston mayor Tom Menino aka Mumbles (who spoke of “Martha Lutha King Joonya” and how he feels the Dems would “bing (sic) jobs to the people” or something, has yet to endorse either Warren or Brown.

Warren’s people are bullbleep about it.

If a true conservative would run in MA for gov, senator, congress etc. then great. Hopefully they would not lose 90-10. I would think there are some smaaaaht folks here, but we have had to grasp for straws. In recent years the likes of Bill Weld, Joe Malone, Mitt Romney, and Scott Brown have managed to win...in a very blue state. It was like pulling teeth to get them elected in some ways but they did it.

Imagine how tough it would be to get a conservative elected.

Remember: this is Massachusetts, where Ted K got re-elected time after time. Had he not gotten brain cancer and died, he would have been up again in 2012. Care to guess how Ted would have done?


13 posted on 09/10/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

>>”Brown is the everyman who simply wants good government and will work with everyone to make it happen,” he said.

Good government? Naah, we want hacks, overspending, inefficiency, and nanny state here, right?

>>”The Brown campaign is consistently communicating to both his base and independents, while Warren has been concentrating more on her base of support among traditional liberals.”

This makes Warren look very ineffective and you’d think she’d be far behind him. But the race is still fairly tight (5 point lead for Scott). Again...this is Mass. we are
talking about. That D after your name on the ballot means SO much :P


14 posted on 09/10/2012 10:36:42 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: maryz

Bill Weld: A GOP (RINO) gov after Dukakis. His running mate was Paul Cellucci.

When Cellucci left to become amb. to Canada his lt gov Jane Swift took over.

She was a disaster. Her positives were around 12 per cent. Some folks suggested getting Romney in. Things were so bad for Swift she decided not to run. Mitt beats Shannon O’Brien IIRC to become governor. One term (and yes he did spend time at end running for prez). Declined salary (or at least donated it to charity).

Had it not been for the brief run of GOP governors MA would have had the following governors, all Dems:

John Silber
Luther Scott Harshbarger
Shannon O’Brien
maybe others, can’t recall.

When Romney left, Muffy Healey ran and lost to Deval Patrick. Huzzah, the first black governor! Huzzah, a Dem back in office! Patrick won re-election against Charlie Baker (whose running mate Rich Tisei is running vs.
John Pockets Tierney in the 6th)

That’s how Romney came about.

But hey, let’s forget about voting for him for prez. I’m
looking forward to four more years of the Messiah,
aren’t you? (/ sarcasm)


15 posted on 09/10/2012 10:42:15 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: cripplecreek

Please give a source of when Brown said to be “
more tolerant of “good” abortion supporters.”

Also, he’s never used the term “pro-choice”.

He was the only vote against Kagan north of Kentucky. So when you are done getting rid of the Senate LIBS in the Northeast, let us know.

-Pete
pro-life
pro-Brown
anti-Tisei


16 posted on 09/10/2012 10:42:31 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: Steely Tom

I’m a Native American too...born in Lynn MA, a part of America. Thus...

So Lieawatha is awarded a job based on her “Native American” minority status. And she’s a person of color, too. THEY SAID THIS!

No casinos in MA yet but there are two N-A ones in Conn. and they’re trying to start some in MA. Don’t know if N-As are involved though...


17 posted on 09/10/2012 10:46:17 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: verum ago

Heard a joke: Warren had a nosebleed. She lost all of her Native American blood :)


18 posted on 09/10/2012 10:47:24 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Perdogg

If Warren wins she will resign in two years so that Deval can appoint Joke3 to the “Kennedy’s Seat”. Benjamin A. Smith did it for Ted Kennedy.


19 posted on 09/10/2012 10:51:51 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: raccoonradio

I would like to think that those who shout rino this and rino that, are paid agitators.

Sadly I doubt that to be the case.
I work with a gaggle of them and wonder of wonders they seldom have the ‘I voted today’ stickers handed out at the polls?

They do make a bit of noise.
“That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”


20 posted on 09/10/2012 10:55:13 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

>>Brown is as good as it gets for a Republican in MA. The alternative to Brown is not a more conservative Republican senator, its a raging liberal Democrat.

Exactly! We have to take what we got here. Would we prefer Sen. Martha Coakley? Sen. Liz Warren? Right.

btw there actually is a “Republicans for Obama” org., complete with blog, T-shirts for sale, etc. Seriously.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 10:56:05 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Perdogg

“””If Warren wins, she will be a Senator until she joins Ted.”””

Try vp in 2016


22 posted on 09/10/2012 11:21:26 AM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: raccoonradio
Bill Weld: A GOP (RINO) gov after Dukakis. His running mate was Paul Cellucci

And how did Weld come to run? My guess is the party recruited him to defeat Steve Pierce (an actual conservative) in the primary. IIRC, Weld was fresh from his stint as US Attorney who (according to popular belief anyway) was supposed to be investigating the corrupt Kevin White (D mayor of Boston) administration but cut him a deal so he wouldn't have to go to jail; he paid a fine or something over that b'day party for his wife on public property but agreed not to run for office again. Anyway, I voted for Silber, who was far more conservative (though not ideological) than Weld -- as attested to by the fact that the local media obviously preferred Weld in spite of the "R"!

BTW, when Weld ran against Kerry for the senate, National Review actually endorsed one Susan Gallagher, an unknown from Quincy who was running on the Conservative ticket (now active in organizing the local Tea Party), because it believed Weld -- liberal and unprincipled, but personable -- if he won, would do more damage to the GOP than a loss. Of course, this was a while back and NR was still conservative then.

Some folks suggested getting Romney in. Things were so bad for Swift she decided not to run.

"Some folks"? Who are you -- Katie Couric? LOL! Seriously, It's always been my impression that the party told Swift in no uncertain terms to get lost and recruited Mitt -- though Mitt may have been sniffing around for something after his loss to Kennedy. Now that I think of it, he probably was. Probably made a hefty donation too . . . In any case, they came to a mutually satisfactory agreement -- Mitt's just their cup of tea! (Not in the Tea Party sense of course!)

So when has the MA GOP ever put up a conservative candidate?

BTW, the gov salary in MA is pocket change to Mitt -- didn't he refer to the $300,000 he got from a book advance or something as "a negligible amount"?

23 posted on 09/10/2012 11:30:46 AM PDT by maryz
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To: campaignPete R-CT
Scott Brown presses Republicans to be ‘more inclusive’ on abortion

Brown blasts back: I am a pro-choice Republican
24 posted on 09/10/2012 11:52:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

are you pointing out your differences with Brown because you think somebody else should be the junior Senator from Mass.?

What is his name?

in CT, we are going 3rd party against GOP Roraback, but we have a real candidate, not an imaginary one.
http://pistoneforcongress.com/ReligiousFaith.html

And the reason is there is reason to believe 2 years from now we can elect a conservative candidate to congress. there are more than 6 qualified conservatives in the district capable of winning.


25 posted on 09/10/2012 12:37:25 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

The choice is yours but I won’t be silenced. I’ll always be right here to make sure people know what they’re willing to accept.

Whether their conscience allows it is up to them.


26 posted on 09/10/2012 12:58:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: raccoonradio

“Had it not been for the brief run of GOP governors MA would have had the following governors, all Dems:

John Silber
Luther Scott Harshbarger
Shannon O’Brien
maybe others, can’t recall................”

You might recall Raccoon that the most conservative governor we have had in recent times was Ed King (D) - Ronald Reagan’s “favorite Democrat” - he later switched parties.


27 posted on 09/10/2012 5:08:18 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: Sparky1776

....and I don’t think Silber would have been bad, the Libs HATED him!


28 posted on 09/10/2012 5:09:56 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: campaignPete R-CT

“pro-life
pro-Brown
anti-Tisei”

Amen to that!

Had to leave Charlie Baker name blank last go around due to Tisei being his running mate, we need to draw the line.


29 posted on 09/10/2012 5:12:56 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: cripplecreek; Sparky1776

Mr. Creek:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/the-idolatrous-religion-of-conscience-41624/

people can make an idolotry of their conscience if they want to. They should remember that Prudence is not an optional virtue, and it requires sound judgment.

“In everything the prudent acts with knowledge, but a fool flaunts his folly.” Proverbs 13.
http://www.openbible.info/topics/prudence

It is true that some people like lip service. Is there a particular vote that Brown cast which permanently eliminates him from consideration? Or is it just symbolism and slogans which people find offensive?

It is clear that you won’t be silenced. What is it that you are advocating? Scott Brown’s defeat?


30 posted on 09/10/2012 5:45:44 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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