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This F-15 Aerial Dogfighting Video Was Shot Entirely By Pilots
Business Insider ^

Posted on 09/10/2012 1:02:41 PM PDT by dead

We don't post a whole lot of videos in their entirety as they're rarely as good as a series of stills lined up with titles and descriptions, but this one is an exception.

Filmed over 12 months by fighter crews themselves with a Sony Handycam, the piece highlights what it's like to fly in the cockpit of one of the best air-to-air fighter planes ever built, during all kinds of maneuvers...

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-f-15-aerial-dogfighting-video-was-shot-entirely-by-pilots-2012-9#ixzz266BxpAsC

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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Awesome stuff.
1 posted on 09/10/2012 1:02:52 PM PDT by dead
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To: dead

Agreed. Thanks for posting this.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 1:15:27 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: dead

Very nice, thanks for posting.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 1:18:51 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: dead

Fighting Cocks look good but I’m partial to the Black Widows - 421 Fighter Squadron.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 1:21:46 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: dead

Cool!


5 posted on 09/10/2012 1:22:10 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: mike_9958

very cool video though


6 posted on 09/10/2012 1:22:41 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: dead
Back in my drinking days, one of the guys I hung out with had been an F-4 fighter jock from Viet Nam and into the late 70's. He told me the story about how they thought they were the hottest stuff going until one day they were taking off and were just lifting off the runway when they noticed that an F-15 that had taken off just in front of them had executed a tight diameter loop and was on their tail. He said on that day, he knew the world had changed.
7 posted on 09/10/2012 1:24:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: mike_9958

Hey, ‘fighting cocks’ is homophobic and ‘black widows’ is racist.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 1:31:44 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: dead
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=245_1347123155

Awesome video. First song is a cover of Bad Company's "Bad Company" by Five Finger Death Punch.

9 posted on 09/10/2012 1:32:04 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: dead

Bump


10 posted on 09/10/2012 1:34:30 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I’ve flown the F-4 (briefly), F-16 (extensively), and the F-15 (briefly).

The F-4 has never been known for agility, but remains a fine ground attack aircraft.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 1:35:36 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dead

Bookmarking for post cubicle enjoyment!


12 posted on 09/10/2012 1:36:54 PM PDT by RedWing9 (Zero sucks... Jesus Rocks...)
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To: dead

Home viewing bookmark.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 1:38:31 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: dead

Bump for when I’m not behind an idiotic firewall...


14 posted on 09/10/2012 1:40:10 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Jewbacca

For clarity of my own post, I flew the Kurnas version.

Different engines and electronics.


15 posted on 09/10/2012 1:41:00 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dead

I’d rather listen to what the pilots are saying than that crappy overly loud soundtrack.

Does every military aviation video still think they have to play some rock track like “Top Gun”?


16 posted on 09/10/2012 1:45:26 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Jewbacca
I've never flown any, but have always been an aviation enthusiast. Based on my eyesisght, the only aircraft I was qualified to fly were the T-10B and MC1-1 :-)

It always intrigued me that the Thunderbirds had, for at least a short time, gone with the Phantom as their performance aircraft. I would have figured (in that era, anyways) the F-5 would have been a much more suitable choice for their acts.

17 posted on 09/10/2012 1:59:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I think it had to do with fuel and cost of spare parts.

We produced a really cool variant of the airframe for Turkey and the last version (the 2000) was so hot it competed with the F-18 at a much, much lower price point.

Ergo, certain defense companies ceased support of our product. :-(


18 posted on 09/10/2012 2:21:36 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dead
OUTstanding !   thanks :-)
19 posted on 09/10/2012 2:25:44 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: dead

Well that makes me feel very very old. Another Ground Control Intercept (GCI) controller and I did all of the tactical radar control for the eagle as it came into the AF inventory as part of the Follow-On Test and Evaluation (FOT&E). We were Air National Guard (ANG) controllers in Phoenix, AZ and the eagles were at Luke AFB. We did most of our air-to-air fighting between I-10 and the Mexican border. We fought Dissimilar Air Combat Tactics (DACT) against AF F-4s, USMC F4s, F-100s, other F-15s, Top Gun and even T-38 with the 64th Aggressors Sq fromn Nellis AFB, NV. Some of the greatest close control I ever did. Even as we were doing it we both knew it was something we would remember for the rest of our lives. One not familar with the radio calls may not know that it is very closely scripted. Because the radio can be difficult to understand it helps a great deal to know what call is expected. This was before AWACS and all if our controlling was with a manual radar scope so you had to use a rag and a grease pencil and try to keep the different birds straight. You would never believe how many people would come into the dark room to watch and listen as the fights developed. Sorry for carrying on.


20 posted on 09/10/2012 2:41:46 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Snickering Hound

“I’d rather listen to what the pilots are saying than that crappy overly loud soundtrack.

Does every military aviation video still think they have to play some rock track like “Top Gun”?”

Young, stupid directors who think that they are being “creative” and “cool”.

The problem is that they can’t differentiate between “stupid” and “cool”.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 2:42:41 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: tomkat

bttt


22 posted on 09/10/2012 2:46:23 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: dead

No country can touch our airmen. We rule the sky.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 2:48:52 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.)
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To: Jewbacca

Being one of the ‘geezers’ that flew the 1st generation of jets, 94’s,89’s, T-33’s I am really impressed by these 4th and 5th gen machines. Did get an hour or two in the F-16 sim once. It was a blast after I got used to the controls. My fat gut won’t take the turns anymore except in FX-10.


24 posted on 09/10/2012 2:59:57 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: dead

For later.


25 posted on 09/10/2012 3:00:47 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
Young, stupid directors who think that they are being “creative” and “cool”.

Too true. I often get calls from directors, bad ones, looking for original songs to plug into some lame movie scene in an attempt to sex it up and 9 times out of 10 what they want is entirely at odds with the action on screen - "Do you have anything that's, you know, Stray Cat Strut for this WWII funeral scene?" There's no talking sense into them.

And since the damage is already done on this one, I suggest turning down the volume on the video and putting Walton's "Spitfire Prelude and Fugue" on your stereo as a more proper accompaniment - or start this vid at the same time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDDcwuJhzZg

26 posted on 09/10/2012 3:03:23 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (You ain't holding anybody's feet to the fire ya lousy limp noodle.)
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To: Jewbacca
My Brother worked on the F-4 in the USAF.

Pigs in space he called them.

27 posted on 09/10/2012 3:10:05 PM PDT by jaz.357 ( *Luke 6:43-45* Twas Ever Thus!)
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To: jaz.357

Pigs in space referred to high altitude performance. The F-4 did much better at low altitude. With smart tactics, you could hold your own against the F-15 - but you WERE at a big handicap.

WSO/EWO with 700 hrs in the F-4E/G.


28 posted on 09/10/2012 3:18:31 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: wildbill

“No country can touch our airmen. We rule the sky.”

Depends on where the sky is located.

;-)


29 posted on 09/10/2012 3:33:56 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Both the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels flew the Phantom. The Blues moved onto the A-4 and the Birds the T-38.

I believe the T-38, which is very similar to the F-5 (pretty hard to tell the difference between the Talon and the F-5B), was chosen because it was in widespread active USAF service (the F-5 flew with aggressor squadons but was otherwise an export product) and was somewhat lighter despite being a two seater, thus having a better logistics tail and thrust to weight ratio.


30 posted on 09/10/2012 3:41:26 PM PDT by tanknetter
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bfl


31 posted on 09/10/2012 4:00:06 PM PDT by Professional Engineer
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To: jaz.357

I am a retired USAF air traffic controller and worked hundreds and hundreds of F-4’s. Calling them pigs in space doesn’t do them justice. It took me quite a while to learning their turning characteristics so that I could work them on a PAR approach. One pilot I knew said the F-4 was proof that you could make a brick fly if it went fast enough.


32 posted on 09/10/2012 6:38:42 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: dead

bfl


33 posted on 09/11/2012 7:23:19 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: dead

Awesome bump for viewing at work.


34 posted on 09/11/2012 7:25:43 PM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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