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HP adds to layoff tally, now plans 29,000 job cuts
http://money.msn.com ^ | 09/10/2012 | n/a

Posted on 09/10/2012 1:40:48 PM PDT by massmike

Hewlett Packard now plans to layoff 29,000 employees, increasing the total number of job cuts by 2,000 over the next two years as it tries to kickstart growth.

HP, which will cut jobs through a combination of involuntary cuts and early retirement offers, expects to take charges of about $3.3 billion through the end of HP's 2014 fiscal year for the workforce reductions, it said in a regulatory filing on Monday.

HP will likely have cut 11,500 jobs by end of fiscal 2012, the company has said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2012; bhoeconomy; democrats; economy; hp; nobama2012; obama; sourcetitlenoturl; unemployment

1 posted on 09/10/2012 1:40:56 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

But... But... the recovery...?


2 posted on 09/10/2012 1:41:58 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: massmike

Kodak announced 1000 layoffs today also.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 1:44:02 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: verum ago

Racist!


4 posted on 09/10/2012 1:45:07 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: massmike
Samsung got a $1.05 Billion fine for copying Apple.
Then, HP comes out with this:

This looks like a pretty flagerant copy - perhaps HP would have been better off just abandoning the PC market when they made that announcement several months ago. HP can't afford a $1 Billion dollar judgement.

5 posted on 09/10/2012 1:45:48 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: massmike
Unexpected ©
6 posted on 09/10/2012 1:46:10 PM PDT by tomkat ( my king of indifference trumps your race card EVERY time)
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To: massmike

And yet the GOP thought it was a good idea to put Meg Whitman up against Moonbeam for governor.


7 posted on 09/10/2012 1:48:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: ransomnote
Racist!

Damn, you can see right through me!
8 posted on 09/10/2012 1:52:10 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: dfwgator

GREAT point!


9 posted on 09/10/2012 1:54:04 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: ez

“Kodak announced 1000 layoffs today also.”

Was that their last 1000 employees, or is there still someone left to turn out the lights?


10 posted on 09/10/2012 2:29:26 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: massmike

My libtard brother has been with HP for 35 years. My dad tells me that my brother is about to take an early retirement package as a part of this down-sizing.

Thing is, he’s black, so isn’t that racist? I’m confused.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 2:29:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dfwgator

Meg’s cleaning up the mess left by the last two CEOs.


12 posted on 09/10/2012 2:31:15 PM PDT by Purrcival (Herman Cain 2012 (*sigh*))
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To: All

There are some tech-savvy folks here. I could use some advice.
I had experience with a couple good HP professional/business black and white (fast, reliable) printers over the years and went shopping for one for myself.
But the clerk told me HP quality isn’t what it used to be, based on printers coming in for repairs, and recommended the Brother brand. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 2:46:30 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tumblindice

I’ve seen HP printers go downhill over the past few years.

Their PC/laptops have been poor for several years and I don’t recommend them to anyone.

I have heard good things about Brother laser printers and am probably going to go with one fairly soon.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 3:10:32 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: wally_bert

Thanks! Me too.


15 posted on 09/10/2012 3:21:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: wally_bert
If you are not printing tons and tons (the reason someone would buy a laser), check out Epson’s Workforce 645. Often goes on sale for around $100, slightly more than the cost of the cartridges. Great output quality and extremely fast (you will be surprised). A bit noisy but so quick it compensates for having something else clattering on for 3 times as long. Get the #127 cartridges for extended capacity. I believe they are cheaper but haven't measured it.
16 posted on 09/10/2012 3:28:24 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: massmike

HP has offices in Texas. Bush’s/Perry’s fault!


17 posted on 09/10/2012 3:30:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The guy who was going to stop the rise of the oceans now can’t even fend off a few raindrops.)
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To: jwsea55; massmike
Great output quality and extremely fast (you will be surprised). A bit noisy but so quick it compensates for having something else clattering on for 3 times as long. Get the #127 cartridges for extended capacity. I believe they are cheaper but haven't measured it.

sorry on the underlining...screwed up my tags

Should read

Great output quality and extremely fast (you will be surprised). A bit noisy but so quick it compensates for having something else clattering on for 3 times as long. Get the #127 cartridges for extended capacity. I believe they are cheaper but haven't measured it.

18 posted on 09/10/2012 3:32:14 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: a fool in paradise

They destroyed what’s left of EDS.


19 posted on 09/10/2012 3:32:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: catnipman
“Kodak announced 1000 layoffs today also.”

Was that their last 1000 employees, or is there still someone left to turn out the lights?

I thought the same thing...(I wonder if Kodak's locomotive is for sale!!)

20 posted on 09/10/2012 3:35:50 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: dfwgator

I was run off when they took over Compaq.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 3:44:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The guy who was going to stop the rise of the oceans now can’t even fend off a few raindrops.)
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To: wally_bert

” Their PC/laptops have been poor for several years and I don’t recommend them to anyone. “

I can attest to this . My Touchsmart PC has been nothing but trouble from day 2 ( not even 3 years old yet ) and no matter how many tines it had to be sent in for various and sundry repairs when it was new they refused to exchange it , the bastards . Never again .


22 posted on 09/10/2012 3:45:55 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: jwsea55

I’m going to at least one laser. My wife does a ton of mostly necessary (I guess) printing. I print very little myself.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 3:58:10 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: sushiman

I did some sub-contract work for HP (never again will I deal with those rip-off artists) and it was like a bad dream for a few weeks. I stuck with it since I needed the income.

I have also done some warranty field work on HP stuff and it is always was some pain involved. HP and their proprietary ways became extremely frustrating at times. I stay away from any service work involving HP.

I’ll stick with my Dells. Few if any complaints as a consumer or field tech.


24 posted on 09/10/2012 4:01:48 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: wally_bert

I’m going to try a Dell next time . Maybe a 17” laptop .


25 posted on 09/10/2012 4:15:44 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: ez; All

Well Kodak is going away.. I’ll be surprised if they are still around..


26 posted on 09/10/2012 4:21:14 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: massmike

Just got a Gateway. Happy as a pig in slop!


27 posted on 09/10/2012 4:25:03 PM PDT by jaz.357 ( *Luke 6:43-45* Twas Ever Thus!)
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To: verum ago

More Obama unemployed former Democratic voters. How’s that “hopey, thingy” slogan going, guys? You can’t take it to the bank or the unemployment office.

You get your chance to strike back on Nov. 6th. Remember, vote Republican in November.


28 posted on 09/10/2012 4:37:03 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: sushiman

I was going to get another Dell laptop to replace my last one but Lenovo had a great sale on and I went with it. The old D810 was used when I bought it and I paid $30 for it and swapped the burner out. It gave me not quite 2 years. I gave it to a needy friend after a DBAN wipe and ubuntu linux install for him. I think it still works.

For what little I use the Lenovo (the droid does a lot) it works very well.


29 posted on 09/10/2012 4:43:14 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: dfwgator; massmike
"And yet the GOP thought it was a good idea to put Meg Whitman up against Moonbeam for governor.

FWIW, she wasn't involved with HP until 2011.

Additionally, if she had become guv of CA and cut the number of state employee's...well, that would have been a tremendous positive towards righting the s(t)inking SS CA.

30 posted on 09/10/2012 4:44:13 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: jaz.357

My first tower was a Gateway back in the later 90s. A great and reliable PIII box. It was working after I gave it away a few years later.

Gateway seemed to go through a real low for a long while.

From what I read and hear things have improved a lot.


31 posted on 09/10/2012 4:45:46 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: wally_bert

Levovo doesn’t offer a 17” laptop here in Japan . This would be my main computer , replacing the HP 20” desktop , so 17” would be the smallest screen that’d work for me .


32 posted on 09/10/2012 4:50:11 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: tumblindice

The older HP LaserJet 4000 series were nearly indestructible. I supported one that was somewhere in the 700K page rage and only normal wear and tear. Sadly, they do not like water from a fire hose.

I have a Brother HL-2070N B&W laser at home. It’s a little louder compared to similar HP’s but it has only needed regular supplies. Very rarely jams.


33 posted on 09/10/2012 5:48:24 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Hodar
This looks like a pretty flagerant copy - perhaps HP would have been better off just abandoning the PC market when they made that announcement several months ago. HP can't afford a $1 Billion dollar judgement.

I don't know about the legal/design stuff, but I know that if people want to buy an iMac, they are going to buy an iMac, not an HP trying to look like an iMac.

That design reeks of either HP thinking they can fool some people into buying an HP, or not understanding what HP customers are after. If it's the first, people should be upset that HP thinks their that gullible. If it's the latter, stockholders should be upset.

HP and the other companies should take a page from Apple's design book though, not on the actual styling, but on the options and number of models. When there are a half a dozen variations of a model named "HP HP138-1365txyz" it doesn't really help customers. When you select a tower and then are presented with 12 different CPU options, most of which are like 0.10GHz or 0.20GHz apart or something, it doesn't help customers and it increases the complexity of your supply chain.
34 posted on 09/10/2012 6:22:13 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: matt04

The 4000 series HP lasers sometimes seem to run forever.


35 posted on 09/10/2012 6:34:33 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah, and those Texas offices all used to be Compaq offices. It all went to shi* on Carly’s watch.


36 posted on 09/10/2012 6:50:21 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: a fool in paradise

It was more like Compaq took over HP. With HP’s money. I lasted 30 years until the speadsheets took over.


37 posted on 09/10/2012 6:53:09 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: wally_bert
If she prints a real lot, I have a spreadsheet that can figure comparative pricing between different models. Sometimes it is long less expensive to get a more expensive printer with cheaper consumables (toner cartridges). Let me know and I can pass it along.

Brother makes some decent low end stuff. They only last a couple of years though. Print quality is acceptable for the price.

38 posted on 09/10/2012 8:05:59 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: wally_bert

The one I mentioned was about about 14 years old and only had routine maintenance done on it until it took a shower when that part of the building it was in caught fire.


39 posted on 09/10/2012 9:19:17 PM PDT by matt04
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To: tumblindice
I've had an HP color laser printer - recently. Before that, I had a Brother black and white.

Brother hands-down. Here's why: When the HP laser cartridge gets below a certain threshold, it FORCES you - through firmware - to reorder.

Case in point: You work with a vendor company that demands faxes for all formal communications. You have an angry merchant demanding a solution. Money is tight. You DON'T CARE if the the printout has no black in it (purple or red or whatever is there is JUST FINE) because you're going through a FAX MACHINE - black and white.

The printer, nonetheless, forces you to go out and spend money you may not have.

The Brother, OTOH, simply became fainter and fainter as the drum ran low on toner. It did not force me to do anything; I could buy toner at a time that was convenient for me.

Not sure why we ended up replacing it; I think my (now ex-) wife bought a color printer on a whim and we needed space for it.

I really resent this corporate "you MUST give us money, now, to use our product" philosophy, esp. for what I now understand is an inferior product. Perhaps this kind of thinking is but one bit of anecdotal rationale for why Hewlett-Packard is now facing layoffs.

Does that help?

40 posted on 09/10/2012 9:26:44 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: dfwgator
They destroyed what’s left of EDS.

They acquired a malignancy with EDS.

41 posted on 09/10/2012 9:30:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: jwsea55

Thanks for the tip. Epson Workforce 645...


42 posted on 09/10/2012 9:34:13 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Thanks for the tip. Epson Workforce 645...

Your welcome!

Officemax has them on sale for $100 right now. Price may end tomorrow??? I think they change prices on Tues??? I am not afraid to ask for the $100 price if the price changes.

Those printers work great with iPad and iPhones, too... assuming the device has the right iOS. Really easy to add a printer to those devices.

43 posted on 09/10/2012 10:48:21 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: jwsea55

I won’t be buying one anytime soon. I left low-wage business-friendly Texas, risking everything to move to New York and launch a business and all I have to live on is my last paycheck.


44 posted on 09/10/2012 10:55:34 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Thanks for the tip. Epson Workforce 645...

Your welcome!

Officemax has them on sale for $100 right now. Price may end tomorrow??? I think they change prices on Tues??? I am not afraid to ask for the $100 price if the price changes.

Those printers work great with iPad and iPhones, too... assuming the device has the right iOS. Really easy to add a printer to those devices.

45 posted on 09/10/2012 10:59:05 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: Lexinom
I won’t be buying one anytime soon. I left low-wage business-friendly Texas, risking everything to move to New York and launch a business and all I have to live on is my last paycheck.

Sorry, missed this. May God shine His blessings on your future path. I wish you all the best.

46 posted on 09/11/2012 7:54:30 AM PDT by jwsea55
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