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Laura Ingraham to GOP: ‘If you can’t beat Barack Obama… shut down the party’ (video at link)
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Posted on 09/10/2012 3:11:38 PM PDT by tsowellfan

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To: madison10

I remember when she was trashing Sarah. I often wonder whose side these pundits and radio hosts are really on. Laura is one I don’t trust.


51 posted on 09/10/2012 4:06:02 PM PDT by gramho12
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To: Bobloblaw2012
“No point complaining about the primaries of 6 months ago.”

Not complaining about it - just pointing out why the Republican Party may lose with their candidate. If they do the same in 2016, same problem.

Who knows - maybe the Severe Conservative Romney will win.

The financial collapse happens anyway. The Fed meets this week and may go for QE3,

52 posted on 09/10/2012 4:07:00 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: tsowellfan
His ads are too generic. He needs to stop with the "my plan is better than Obama's" and get to the meat and potatoes of his plan. That's how you educate the population that liberalism does not work and THIS is a better option.

The consultants seem to think ads should be dumbed down because all the hicks and rubes out there don't understand all that "policy." What the consultants don't get is what Clinton proved in his DNC speech. You don't need to be factual, you don't need to be logical, you just need to SOUND like you know what you're talking about when you eviscerate your opponents. And to do that, you need to cite detail that makes it SOUND like you're basing what you say on specific details and facts. People know what it sounds like when a school kid gets up to give a book review and hasn't read the book. The details have to be there. And a smart kid can fake them even if he hasn't read much of the book.

At this point though, I believe the political consultant class is every bit as liberal as the media, and is specifically throwing the election to Obama by giving Romney bad advice. This is doubly true if Romney's team actually is made up of people from Taxahomochusetts. And Romney is not smart enough to understand why it's bad advice, the way Newt Gingrich could.

53 posted on 09/10/2012 4:07:38 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: tsowellfan

But,but Laura!!! We were told ROMNEY was the ONLY one that could beat Obama, that was from all you FOX folks.


54 posted on 09/10/2012 4:09:10 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Ronin
Her statement, taken at face value, is germane. If the GOP can’t beat Obama, it’s time for a new party.

Yep. Been sayin' that since 1988.

Sadly, I'm stuck with voting for the latest in a long line of GOP milquetoasts, or risk being tossed out of the Romney sycophants club here on FR.

55 posted on 09/10/2012 4:10:26 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Principles aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. I'm voting Romney. God help me.)
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To: tsowellfan

I agree 100!

GOP fight to win, or CLEAR THE STAGE OF HISTORY, joining the Whigs.


56 posted on 09/10/2012 4:13:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tsowellfan

Amazing. I have never, ever heard her peep criticism about Willard Mitt Romney before. Uppity gentile woman.


57 posted on 09/10/2012 4:13:39 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I would have said, “Good! We need more millionaires. Millionaires create jobs. Millionaires don’t live off the government dole. Millionaires don’t break into my house. Millionaires spend their own money, not the taxpayers money.

Only small, envious people begrudge others being successful. The jobs created by the rich will empower America much more than taxing them more. Tax them until they are no longer rich, and we all suffer...taxes are fleeting, jobs are ongoing.

Putting all your eggs in one basket -the rich - never works out well. An economy where anyone can get rich by hard work, elevates us all.

Obama squanders our money like a bratty nephew who inherits - and squanders - the family fortune, and when it’s gone, he’s on skid row again.


58 posted on 09/10/2012 4:14:13 PM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: tsowellfan

History says Obama loses. I say by 5 to 7 points (that would be a blowout by modern political standards).


59 posted on 09/10/2012 4:15:15 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: gramho12; bubman

Laura Ingraham apparently has a homosexual brother. And she has apparently said she changed her views on homosexuality after he came out. I believe that this election nothing is more important to most of the elites of this country, no matter what party they’re in, than to legalize same-sex marriage. It has totally taken the place of electing the first black president. The stock market is booming and these people are well-off, so the economy is secondary to them anyway. Bad or good, they’ll do fine. But nothing is more important to them than exercising the morality they’ve been educated with in place of Judeo-Christian values for 40 years, and that is to prove they aren’t “prejudiced.” Electing the first black president was the best way to do it last time. This time it’s to help the movement to legalize same-sex marriage nationally succeed. Obama knows it which is why he made that a plank of the Democrat platform.


60 posted on 09/10/2012 4:16:08 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: tsowellfan

What ifs don’t need to be sourced. Just use logic.

Gingrich was disgraced when he resigned commanded a 20% approval rating and has a horrible martial background.

Santorum was rejected by his own constituents by 20 points. Other than Blanche Lincoln you can’t find a senator rejected by his own constituents by that margin. Even pathetic Dewine lost by half that amount.

Perry can’t put a sentence together. Plus his approval rating in TX is 20-25 points less than GW Bush’s was.

If you think those characteristics are winning material, that’s fine. But they arent.

It is a pointless exercise to say we should have nominated someone else. We didn’t.


61 posted on 09/10/2012 4:16:39 PM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: Travis McGee

“GOP fight to win, or CLEAR THE STAGE OF HISTORY, joining the Whigs.”

Get the brooms and dustpans ready then. The ashbin of history awaits.


62 posted on 09/10/2012 4:17:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: tsowellfan

I agree with Laura.


63 posted on 09/10/2012 4:17:29 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: tsowellfan
Laura, you're making Romney cry!


64 posted on 09/10/2012 4:18:05 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Bobloblaw2012
"Perry is a moron"

Utter bullcrap.

65 posted on 09/10/2012 4:18:21 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: Psalm 144
Amazing. I have never, ever heard her peep criticism about Willard Mitt Romney before. Uppity gentile woman.

The ones who weren't fully and openly in the tank for Romney from the outset of the primary season will be jumping off his sinking ship as fast as possible to try to preserve what credibility they can for themselves.

66 posted on 09/10/2012 4:18:32 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: Eva
f the GOP cannot beat Obama, they won’t have to shut down the party. Obama will do it for them.

If Obama wins again, gird your loins. It's Hugo Chavez time.

67 posted on 09/10/2012 4:20:40 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: JediJones

I think you are right. Transnational globalism is another and actually more sinister agenda as well, and again this election is win/win for the One World types.


68 posted on 09/10/2012 4:20:51 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: LaybackLenny

“Sadly, I’m stuck with voting for the latest in a long line of GOP milquetoasts, or risk being tossed out of the Romney sycophants club here on FR.”

Surely you jest. There are many of us who were tossed (we don’t care). Great word, “sycophants”.


69 posted on 09/10/2012 4:21:43 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: tsowellfan

Romney needs to get specific about his plans


He needs to convince most of America that time is rapidly running out, that we are going to have an economic meltdown that will surely result in great hardship for us all if he’s not elected. He needs to stress the immediacy, urgency and stark reality of the situation.


70 posted on 09/10/2012 4:23:14 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Psalm 144

That means the Rats win the next election or three, until a new conservative party emerges that can win a majority.

By then, we’ll be the USSA, officially. No good way out now.


71 posted on 09/10/2012 4:23:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Christie at the beach

That exactly the way I see it. Laura Ingraham help to put him in.


72 posted on 09/10/2012 4:25:09 PM PDT by BlueJ7
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To: Bobloblaw2012

Gingrich wasn’t “disgraced.” You’re a Romneybot repeating his lies from the primary. People were surprised he resigned because there was nothing forcing him to. He in effect fell on his own sword because of the big target he had become of the media and the left, the same reason Palin resigned. Arguably the party had a better chance to get its work done with someone else in his role due to the media having done their best to make Gingrich and Palin into distractions and nitpick their every word to death. But approval ratings from the past are meaningless in the present day. You can look at how Hillary Clinton’s and G.W. Bush’s have steadily gone up from some dismal low points in the past as proof of that.


73 posted on 09/10/2012 4:25:49 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: Psalm 144

On February 23, 1997, [Laura] had an op-ed published in the Washington Post where she spoke of her maturing:

“In the ten years since I learned my brother Curtis was gay my views and rhetoric about homosexuality have been tempered, because I have seen him and his companion Richard lead their lives with dignity, fidelity and courage.”

She also has dated former New Jersey Democratic Senator Robert Torricelli.[26]


74 posted on 09/10/2012 4:31:10 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Ingraham’s always doing stuff like this, endorsing moderates and then forgetting a week later while she pretends to be conservative. I can’t stand to listen to her anymore, but my coworker insists on catching that show every day, to my great annoyance.


75 posted on 09/10/2012 4:32:32 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Travis McGee

Socialism once enacted will have a short life span in North America. It simply will not be tolerated. The Founding Fathers were traitors and criminals to the Crown. We will see those days again.

No, there is no good way out. The rot has gone too deep and too long to be avoided. IMO the GOP’s main function for years has been to offer a placebo to cure the Progressive disease. We will not recover as long as that false hope, false front organization remains intact.


76 posted on 09/10/2012 4:33:21 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: JediJones
I actually agree with you. I have family and friends who work for current elected officials. They all ran on a pro traditional marriage platform. As the years have gone by; each one of these officials have softened their criticism towards supporting gay rights. They must know many people will never accept the behavior to be normal so- what is the best format to change the culture for a new change by activist judges, the elites who want this and all those who have the cowardliness to rebuke a global acceptance. They want this more than anything. Romney fits right into this agenda. We all are so doomed relying on these 2 flam parties that we have at this time. I pray God steps in to where as a better direction can come.
77 posted on 09/10/2012 4:35:43 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Bobloblaw2012
conservatives tend to blame the candidate or the campaign.

Exactly as it should be. If a party and/or candidate cannot convincingly make their case to the electorate -- particularly after six full years of campaigning, in Mittens' increasingly limp case -- then the fault for that absolutely lies with them, and them alone.

Period. End of sentence. End of paragraph.

78 posted on 09/10/2012 4:37:43 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: tsowellfan
On a level playing ground with an honest press Obama would be 20 points behind Romney.

The Obama slobbering press gives millions of dollars worth of positive spin and coverage for him and negative spin and coverage for Romney.

The minute anyone makes a serious criticism of Obama the press mauls them with charges of racism and coverage that rips them apart.
When it comes time to clean this mess up, the individuals in the leftist press are some of the first who deserve a meaningful attitude adjustment.
Maybe a fair trial for treason would be in order.


79 posted on 09/10/2012 4:41:00 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: JediJones

I have news for Laura. There is no “dignity” in two men messing with each other’s filthy anal area and calling it “love” or “marriage.”


80 posted on 09/10/2012 4:42:55 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: riri

Exactly. Did you read the Drudge article:

President Barack Obama’s deputies are negotiating a $1 billion aid package with Egypt’s new Islamist government, even as Egypt’s cash-strapped military revealed that it is trying to buy $1 billion worth of German submarines that could threaten Israel’s fast-growing offshore energy projects.

The German government has pointedly declined to deny the incendiary revelation about Egypt’s request to buy the two submarines.

Instead, the German government offered vague support for Israel, which is facing renewed threats from Iran’s nuclear program and the Muslim Brotherhood’s rise to power in Egypt.

“There has been no change in the German government’s position towards Israel, in the commitment the German government feels towards Israel’s security,” a spokesman for Germany’s chancellor told Der Speigel, a major German newspaper.

State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland did not respond to an inquiry by The Daily Caller.

The submarine purchase will likely be an issue in the U.S. election, because both parties are vying for support from a relatively large concentration of swing-voting Jewish Americans in Florida.

During the Democrats’ convention in Charlotte, for example, several speakers declared that Obama is a strong supporter of Israel’s defense.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/10/obama-aids-egypt-as-it-tries-to-buy-u-boats/#ixzz2675u6IRH


81 posted on 09/10/2012 4:44:04 PM PDT by Eva
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To: tsowellfan

Laura tells it like it is. The Republican Party as a campaign operation is a pisspoor joke and totally incompetent to do the job.

Let the housecleaning, purge and Inquisition begin, starting with Boehner and McConnell, and working its way down the food chain.

If the Tea Party were a stock market corporation, I’d be buying a lot of stock in it. At least they know how to fight and have the guts to do it.

Hey Republican Party, “Shit or get off the pot”.

“Grow a backbone or get your limp Boehner out of here”.

“GOP: Grow a pair or ask Hillary to give you some from her lockbox”


82 posted on 09/10/2012 4:49:52 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Christie at the beach

I am sending extra monies to the state. local races for the strong Tea Party and constitutional conservatives. I have not given up though I have to be honest to myself the country we love is changing. Thanks to Clinton, to Obama and thanks to the people who don’t feel good about themselves so they force others (the go along group) to legislate a new law as a equal protection. Though, all along they are all equal as human beings.


83 posted on 09/10/2012 4:50:46 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Longbow1969

Agree. Laura was a Santorium fan - Ann COulter was a Chris Christie fan before she was wupported Romney.


84 posted on 09/10/2012 4:53:04 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: GeronL

IT’S NOT CLOSE. Please guys, do not fall into the trap. Remember Wisconsin? media said it was neck and neck even when the results were coming in and it wasn’t even close. Carter was ahead at this time..Dukakis was ahead. PLEASE be positive and just keep working.


85 posted on 09/10/2012 4:53:57 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Hildy

I know the polls are crap. know there is no way Obama is ahead if Mitts winning the independents by 14%


86 posted on 09/10/2012 5:01:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JediJones

bump


87 posted on 09/10/2012 5:03:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bronxville

If it had been Santorium there would have been just as many if more distractions


88 posted on 09/10/2012 5:11:49 PM PDT by aheckle
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To: JediJones

“”Gingrich wasn’t “disgraced.” You’re a Romneybot “”

From now till the election I’m a romneybot yes. There are no other bots to be and still oppose the obamabots.


89 posted on 09/10/2012 5:17:43 PM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: SaraJohnson

Laura got what she wanted, and now the Romney campaign is being run stupidly, the mess over rules was divisive and ill advised, Romney’s ill advised comments re: obamacare were ill advised and again a turnoff for many people on an issue that the majority of the voters are unified against, now Romney will have to waste time and probably alineate more Conservatives explaining his “new” healthcare stand. With all obama has done and Romney can’t attack him? Romney must have expended all his venom and energy against Republicans. Obama is NOT a nice guy he is evil.


90 posted on 09/10/2012 5:19:43 PM PDT by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: TalBlack
History says Obama loses. I say by 5 to 7 points (that would be a blowout by modern political standards).

We're in uncharted territory.

In fact, our government wants us to prepare for "zombie attacks" now.

91 posted on 09/10/2012 5:24:14 PM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: Bobloblaw2012
Gingrich was not protected by the people on his side of the party because those same people who tried to take him out as the speaker; wanted him gone to save them political damage for themselves. Hello. All those who would not support him; are big-losers with no backbone. People judged Newt too harshly for his mistakes of his past marriages. Newt could handle the left wingers. He takes no crap because he's spent his life knowing what the leftists are planning. Wake up. We need that fortitude now vs being judgmental. I would vote for Newt in a heartbeat to see him put child Obama in his place.
92 posted on 09/10/2012 5:27:00 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“This election is Romney’s to lose...”

Actually it is his consultants’ election to lose. The same consultants who hate the tea party and Palin. :(


93 posted on 09/10/2012 5:30:01 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: tsowellfan

I think if Romney loses, the GOP will, at a minimum, be reorganized.

More likely, in 2016 (if there are elections), it will be a minor third party with 5% or less of the vote.


94 posted on 09/10/2012 5:33:21 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Bobloblaw2012; JediJones
From now till the election I’m a romneybot yes. There are no other bots to be and still oppose the obamabots.

Umm, excuse me, Boblobbot but this is not "you're either for my candidate or you're for Obama".

It's up to Romney to work for his support (not the other way around). Mark Levin's still waiting for his call to be returned.

It's up to Romney to win this, not those who question his truthfulness.

Newt would have been up double digits by now because he knows how to talk about his plans for America he's got thousands of videos online where he's done it.

95 posted on 09/10/2012 5:33:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: GeronL
Why did we have to end up with a squeegee guy as a candidate?

For the same reason we got one as pResident, STUPID welfare dependent voters.

96 posted on 09/10/2012 5:34:07 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Jim Noble
More likely, in 2016 (if there are elections), it will be a minor third party with 5% or less of the vote.

The GOP today is basically the democrat party of 2000/2004 (perhaps a little more to the right on economic issues)

By 2016 I could see the GOP competing with today's democratic party on who can be more left.

97 posted on 09/10/2012 5:38:21 PM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: Bobloblaw2012
Correction: Newt would have been up double digits by now because he knows how to talk about his plans for America he's got thousands of HOURS of video online where he's done it.
98 posted on 09/10/2012 5:40:28 PM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: Christie at the beach
>>>the people on his side of the party because those same people who tried to take him out as the speaker; wanted him gone to save them political damage for themselves. Hello. All those who would not support him; are big-losers with no backbone

The losers in which I was referring to was Newt's own political party members who threw him and his strong beliefs under the bus ...since they decided he was wrong to pursuit impeachment and them ask for those as Santorum to follow constitutional principles..Rick was apart of the team with Lindsey in SC to have Newt destroyed by the media sharks. That's history but it's important to have all the info before painting a broad brush on Newt.

99 posted on 09/10/2012 5:43:45 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If they lose—Dump the GOP and restore the Whigs, or Federalists, or start a new 3rd Party thyat listens to the people—A Tea Party.


100 posted on 09/10/2012 5:52:22 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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