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Calif. Law Would Permit Midwives, Other Non-Physicians to Perform Abortions
The New American ^ | 10Sep 2012 | Dave Bohon

Posted on 09/10/2012 7:06:07 PM PDT by mandaladon

The California Senate passed a bill September 6 that would make it legal for non-physician medical professionals such as midwives to perform abortions under a statewide training program. The measure now awaits Democratic Governor Jerry Brown's signature. (Gov. Brown pictured to the left of the state seal, Sen. Christine Kehoe to the right.)

According to LifeSiteNews.com, the bill (S.B. 623), introduced by Democratic State Senator Christine Kehoe, “extends a program run by the University of California at San Francisco [UCSF], in which nurse practitioners, midwives, and doctors’ assistants are trained to perform abortions without any further training in medicine. Kehoe argues the bill is necessary because there aren’t enough doctors performing abortions in California.”

The Sacramento Bee reported that the bill extends a UCSF program, begun in 2007, that “evaluates the safety and effectiveness of allowing certain non-doctor medical providers to provide abortions.... The goal is to increase access to the procedure in parts of the state where doctors are scarce.” Kehoe noted that the program is “an existing study that's been extended several times, [and] this is an additional extension. Otherwise the study would cease at the end of this month and the practitioners participating in the city would no longer be able to perform this procedure.”

The Life Legal Defense Foundation (LLDF), a California-based pro-life group that has been pressuring the UCSF for its records on the controversial program, explained that the measure was hidden in an unrelated bill at the end of the state's legislative session after previous attempts to pass it had failed. “This bill was originally created to regulate boat paint,” Dana Cody, LLDF's executive director, said of the bill carrying the abortion measure. “Now it’s regulating and destroying human lives.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; christinekehoe; healthcare; kehoe; moonbeam; obama; plannedinfanticide; plannedparenthood; prolife
The fact sheet also noted that rather than searching for nurses and other medical professionals from the general population for the program, “Planned Parenthood and UCSF recruited the non-physician trainees from existing Planned Parenthood employees or other 'women’s health specialty' businesses. Thus, for the most part, the program simply paid to train current Planned Parenthood employees to perform surgical suction abortions.”.......................Planned Parenthood is a murder enterprise interested in making money.
1 posted on 09/10/2012 7:06:13 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Circling back to a coat-hanger world?


2 posted on 09/10/2012 7:08:05 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: mandaladon

Absolutely disgusting...


3 posted on 09/10/2012 7:08:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mandaladon

Once you start killing its hard to stop.

Accepting any abortion for any reason is no different than putting just few Jews on the train.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 7:09:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: NonValueAdded

With coat hangers, no doubt.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 7:09:35 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: mandaladon

What’s next? Throw the babies into the Nile?


6 posted on 09/10/2012 7:11:26 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: mandaladon

Maybe there are midwives out there who would be interested in the job - but none that I have ever met.

They got into this line of work because they enjoy delivering babies.Alive, that is.


7 posted on 09/10/2012 7:12:01 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: mandaladon

Have coat-hanger will travel...


8 posted on 09/10/2012 7:12:57 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1330 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: NonValueAdded
Roe v. Wade allows this ~ it was written to make all the rootworkers legitimate.
9 posted on 09/10/2012 7:14:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mandaladon
The California Senate passed a bill September 6 that would make it legal for non-physician medical professionals such as midwives to perform abortions under a statewide training program.

Statewide training program? We've come a long way, baby.

10 posted on 09/10/2012 7:15:37 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: mandaladon

I see the SEIU and Planned “Parenthood” getting clobbered with lawsuits.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 7:19:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Diversity and political correctness. The real reason 09-11-01 happened.)
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To: Scotswife
They got into this line of work because they enjoy delivering babies. Alive, that is.

And I doubt they got into it for the express purpose of being thought of as filthy scumbuckets. However, I believe there are some filthy scumbuckets who would gladly go into midwifery if they could get the opportunity to perform abortions at $500 to $1,000 a crime.

12 posted on 09/10/2012 7:19:45 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: mandaladon

so much for the “medical procedure” thang


13 posted on 09/10/2012 7:23:42 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: mandaladon

It would be long before midwives are required to abort children like the midwives who Pharaoh ordered to kill the Hebrew manchildren-

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%201:15-21&version=NKJV

‘Then the king of Egypt spoke to the Hebrew midwives, of whom the name of one was Shiphrah and the name of the other Puah; and he said, “When you do the duties of a midwife for the Hebrew women, and see them on the birthstools, if it is a son, then you shall kill him; but if it is a daughter, then she shall live.” But the midwives feared God, and did not do as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the male children alive. So the king of Egypt called for the midwives and said to them, “Why have you done this thing, and saved the male children alive?”

And the midwives said to Pharaoh, “Because the Hebrew women are not like the Egyptian women; for they are lively and give birth before the midwives come to them.”

Therefore God dealt well with the midwives, and the people multiplied and grew very mighty. And so it was, because the midwives feared God, that He provided households for them.’


14 posted on 09/10/2012 7:31:51 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: cripplecreek
Once you start killing its hard to stop. Accepting any abortion for any reason is no different than putting just few Jews on the train.

It's true, it becomes just like blowing your nose. But that's life without God in your platform.

15 posted on 09/10/2012 7:32:12 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: mandaladon

Why not let undocumented workers do abortions, that’ll save some money...


16 posted on 09/10/2012 7:32:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: mandaladon

Coathangers should be the new symbol for Obamacare.


17 posted on 09/10/2012 7:34:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: NonValueAdded

“Circling back to a coat-hanger world?”

Looks that way. Women looking for the cheapest route to murder their babies.


18 posted on 09/10/2012 7:35:16 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Unfortunately, that will be the result of severe restriction.


20 posted on 09/10/2012 7:43:24 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: mandaladon

Planned Parenthood or Planned Death?


21 posted on 09/10/2012 7:45:20 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Abortion is the democrats platform.

Cannot understand that one iota.

We are overrun by democrats in Sacramento the republicans that are there have no voice.


22 posted on 09/10/2012 7:47:51 PM PDT by Burlem
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To: mandaladon

“legal”
Seriously, midwives and doctors are already as they always have performing abortions, this bill changes nothing.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 7:48:28 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: NonValueAdded

More competition should drive the cost of an abortion down. OTOH, if there are complications, the woman will be lucky to survive the procedure.

They are called doctors for a reason.

How is this helping women?


24 posted on 09/10/2012 7:58:08 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: mandaladon

So who is up front in the war on women when they start allowing amateurs go tooling around in a woman’s vagina with sucion instruments and coat hangers? Or their stainless steel shiny replica’s, that do the same job?


25 posted on 09/10/2012 8:09:41 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Planned Child Murder


26 posted on 09/10/2012 8:13:01 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Venturer

yup.

I was under the impression the midwives had no training in general surgery as well.

Maybe some health-field FReepers could correct me on that - but that is what it looked like from my vantage point.


27 posted on 09/10/2012 8:14:14 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: mandaladon

Liberals live government regulation, except when it comes to abortion (and a few other things that most people would never do either).


28 posted on 09/10/2012 8:14:48 PM PDT by grundle
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To: mandaladon

Makes sense. How often is this “medical” procedure performed for “medical” reasons.


29 posted on 09/10/2012 8:18:39 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: NonValueAdded


30 posted on 09/10/2012 8:20:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Scotswife

This would forever degrade the practice of midwifery.

Leave it to abortionists and their bloodied minions to debase everything they they would touch.

The scowl of true Evil.


31 posted on 09/10/2012 8:27:52 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: mandaladon
Unfortunately, I'm reaching the point that I no longer care about women who desire to murder their own.

If they are butchered by serial killers (what else are we to refer to abortionists as) in the process of slaughtering their own babies, who should care but the Lord and it is up to Him to forgive them.

That these innocent babies are pulled apart, limb by limb, burned under their own skin by drugs, have scissors jammed in the base of their skulls, all without any painkillers given, seems to matter little to their own mothers and certainly not by those who expect financial gain for such torture, like Planned Parenthood or other "health providers" for women.

It might be a useful exercise to propose such deaths for those on death row. It would certainly smoke out those who are "against Capitol punishment but all for Choice up to the moment of natural birth!"

Even the media and every other person who swooned at the DNC Convention that put "women's health" and "birth control" on stage, front and center are ghouls, so why cry over Planned Parenthood and other "professional abortionists," lose their gravy train to "amateurs."

32 posted on 09/10/2012 8:44:16 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: ari-freedom

Probably hideous bronze idols, complete with arms extended over a fire pit, ready to receive the “offering.”


33 posted on 09/10/2012 8:57:11 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: mandaladon

What could possibly go wrong?


34 posted on 09/10/2012 9:15:57 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: mandaladon

They’re doing this to save your tax dollars! PP is so thoughtful and considerate! Surely the cost of abortions will go way down when today’s receptionist becomes tomorrow’s “women’s ‘health care’ professional.” Maybe they should change their initials from PP to BB - Butchery Botchery.


35 posted on 09/10/2012 9:16:12 PM PDT by informavoracious (Abortions are unproductive wrongs, not reproductive rights.)
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To: mandaladon

No midwife I’ve ever met would ever do such a thing. Ever.


36 posted on 09/10/2012 9:52:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Once again we have this particular State trying to normalize an atrocity.It will never be considered a safe or healthy process.

I do hope that the budget problems this State is having won’t turn it into a prolonged death knell although the argument could be made that we’re already there but lead to a rapid change of leadership in Sacramento.Yes I am an optimist but this has to end.


37 posted on 09/10/2012 10:13:11 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
However, I believe there are some filthy scumbuckets who would gladly go into midwifery if they could get the opportunity to perform abortions at $500 to $1,000 a crime.

If you knew how hard and long that path is and how much the insurance to cover a midwife costs, I doubt you'd take it up for a lousy few thousand bucks.

38 posted on 09/10/2012 10:14:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: Scotswife
I was under the impression the midwives had no training in general surgery as well.

Which is why so many of them perform in a hospital setting. I surely wouldn't want to own the liability for a delivery that went bad and needed a crash c-section without immediate access to a surgeon.

39 posted on 09/10/2012 10:18:19 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: mandaladon

The abortion vending machine will be invented in California.


40 posted on 09/11/2012 12:26:05 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: mandaladon

They’re pushing for this since so many younger doctors are deciding NOT to learn to do abortions, or if they had to have the training in Med School, have decided they don’t WANT to do them. They know what people think of abortionists. Even though many people obviously use their services, they won’t go to them for anything else.


41 posted on 09/11/2012 3:45:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: mandaladon

keeping abortion legal will eventually push women to back alley abortionists.

sad.


42 posted on 09/12/2012 6:25:00 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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