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Mitt Romney would lead by eight in unskewed data from newest CNN/ORC poll
Examiner ^ | 09/10/2012 | Dean Chambers

Posted on 09/10/2012 10:07:37 PM PDT by oldernittany

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll official reports Obama at 52 to percent and Mitt Romney at 46 percent. Unskewed, the data reveals a 53 percent to 45 percent lead for Romney.

This new CNN/ORC survey, unlike many other analyzed, not only over-samples Democratic voters, but also massively under-samples independent voters, to produce a result more favorable to Barack Obama. This survey's sample includes 397 registered Republicans and 441 registered Democrats. But the survey included a total of 822 registered voters, leaving only 37 independent voters at most. The survey clearly under-sampled independent and Republican voters.

Among the Democrats survey, 97 percent favored Obama while three percent support Romney. The Republicans surveys chose Romney by a 96 percent to two percent margin. Those margins display a high degree of party loyalty in each party for its candidate, which is plausible in a campaign like this one where both sides are focusing heavily on boosting turnout among their base. Independents, who are massively under-sampled in this survey, support Romney by a 54 percent to 40 percent margin.

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Media is lying. Willard is winning this thing. Look how bogus polls are. They turn a 53-45 Romney lead into a 52-46 Kenyan lead.
1 posted on 09/10/2012 10:07:54 PM PDT by oldernittany
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To: oldernittany

I’ve heard more about doctored polls in this election cycle than any other in the past.

Clearly, they are changing the polls numbers, to make it seem that Obama is more popular than he really is.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 10:12:06 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: oldernittany

Too bad that in my area can’t even get a yard sign for Mitt or at least it is very difficult. Too bad, may be some one who works for Mitt will read this. Went to his web site and that one is some what goofy too.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 10:19:30 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: oldernittany
I don't trust any polls. They're all either directly or indirectly controlled by the MSM.

If a poll tells me that Obama is winning it's because the MSM wants to make me think there is no hope for Romney and discourage me from going to the polls.

If a poll tells me that Romney is winning it's because the MSM wants to make me overconfident and feel there's no need for me to go to the polls

If a poll shows Romney and Obama neck-and-neck it's just because they want to gin up the horse race to sell more ad space.

Bastards.

4 posted on 09/10/2012 10:23:23 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: saintgermaine

Do a google search on ‘mitt romney for president yard sign ‘. Lots of hits.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 10:25:59 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: oldernittany

Now that the conventions are over, there’s no point in recognizing any poll that is still sampling “adults” or “registered voters”. Likely voters is the only sample that matters now.

And national numbers are useless too. State polls of likely voters are what is relevant.

All the rest of the polls are purely for propaganda.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 10:26:57 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: saintgermaine

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=romney+yard+sign&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=21925394755&hvpos=1s3&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9501961671351896661&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_4sqmfumtnc_b


7 posted on 09/10/2012 10:27:14 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: oldernittany
Both campaigns spend millions on their own polls which we never see. Does Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan seem nervous to you? On the other hand, Mr. Obama spent the day today debating whether some D-List black hip-hop star had actually endorsed Romney/Ryan or not in a song. Why would the de facto president of the United States spend even one second on that subject?
8 posted on 09/10/2012 10:29:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: oldernittany

You must realize that at the end Aug. Republicans outnumbered Democrats or those who are registered 37.5% to 33.3% with 22% independents!!


9 posted on 09/10/2012 10:30:41 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: oldernittany

Polls lie. All the time.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 10:31:21 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: saintgermaine

http://store.mittromney.com/basics/signs/believe-in-america-yardsign.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Romney-Ryan-Yard-Sign-2012-President-Mitt-Paul-Campaign-Lawn-Signs-w-Wire-Stake-/110950079791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d523dd2f


11 posted on 09/10/2012 10:33:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: saintgermaine
2012 Romney-Ryan store
12 posted on 09/10/2012 10:35:56 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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To: saintgermaine

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/clt/3255928715.html

http://picclick.com/2-VOTE-FOR-ROMNEY-2012-130762195748.html


13 posted on 09/10/2012 10:39:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: StarFan; GOPsterinMA
Interesting article ping!

My head is swimming with all these poll numbers... ugh

14 posted on 09/10/2012 10:39:27 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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To: oldernittany

They hope if they say the polls are true then it will change the votes...


16 posted on 09/10/2012 10:42:05 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: OrangeHoof
All the rest of the polls are purely for propaganda.

They try to make it a horse race for ratings too.

If they reported the truth that Romney was ahead, he would stay in the lead comfortably and people would tune out.

17 posted on 09/10/2012 10:45:59 PM PDT by what's up
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To: oldernittany

Bob Beckle said on Hannity that “Romney will lose it”. I’m going to love watching his fat face melt when he has to say “President Romney” through gritted teeth. Alan Colmes too. He’s my least favorite liberal after Obama now. The man looks like a biology teacher/serial rapist.


18 posted on 09/10/2012 11:09:04 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I wouldn’t be surprised if a few are cooked to keep the rcp average in 0bama’s favor.


19 posted on 09/10/2012 11:14:23 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (I'm voting AB0/RYAN)
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To: oldernittany

Remember..Axelrod and Gallup. If Obama, Axelrod and Holder would put pressure on Gallup, you can bet the other Polling companies have been contacted too.

I am afraid we aren’t going to be able to trust the polls this year...


20 posted on 09/10/2012 11:24:12 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I heard they oversample Democrats. Even FoxNews said they do that.


21 posted on 09/11/2012 12:05:13 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: oldernittany

DemRATs have to fake as large a lead as possible to be able to charge election fraud after comrade obama loses.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 12:06:42 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Viennacon

Bob Beckel also said that Scott Walker would “Lose in a landslide” and get recalled..good ol drunk Bob, always Mr. Reliable


23 posted on 09/11/2012 12:22:43 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Clearly, they are changing the polls numbers, to make it seem that Obama is more popular than he really is.

It is always safer for your reputation when in the eye of the media to give the left the benefit of the doubt. So the pollsters are sticking to older models where democrat voters used to outnumber republican voters as simply the safer road to tread.

24 posted on 09/11/2012 12:57:56 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: oldernittany; IMissPresidentReagan
thxs, for the post/thread
here yah go!...to on RUSH'S SHOW tomorrow. :-D

25 posted on 09/11/2012 1:10:44 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually whether obama had a solid lead over Romney or not, I think he would be openly bothered if a well known rapper did not seem to love him. He is narcistic by nature.


26 posted on 09/11/2012 2:29:38 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: oldernittany

Obama and his lap dogs in the press are trying to cook the polls. All Romney’s publicists need to do is say: “Our polls show that Obama is losing the support of voters; Obama’s ‘dislikability’ is increasing, and that people want a change.”

That’s all they need to say. No need anymore to back things up with facts. Everything is illusion and perception. We need to use the same weapons as the left - make it up as you go along.


27 posted on 09/11/2012 3:11:18 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: oldernittany

Does anyone have any historical data to show which companies have been most accurate? I know that polls this early are still too early to make large judgements but what about polls in the last week before an election? Who gets it right?


28 posted on 09/11/2012 3:28:27 AM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: oldernittany

“Willard is winning this thing.”

I find it hard to believe Obama can repeat ‘08.

Obama is going to fail like Carter. That is not to say we are getting a Reagan.


29 posted on 09/11/2012 4:14:09 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: OrangeHoof
"Likely voters is the only sample that matters now."

WaPo: "The survey shows that the race remains close among likely voters, with Obama at 49 percent and Romney at 48 percent, virtually unchanged from a poll taken just before the conventions."

30 posted on 09/11/2012 4:24:37 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: oldernittany

Pretty nice piece of reverse engineering a poll.


31 posted on 09/11/2012 4:28:49 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

—— I don’t trust any polls ——

Reporting here from occupied Massachusetts...

There is no enthusiasm for Obama. Four years ago, on my one hour commute toward Boston, every tenth car had an Odumbo sticker. Now I see one or two a day. Same number of Romney stickers. But keep in mind that Romney supporters have a much greater reason to fear vandalism.

With Brown opening a bigger lead on Fauxahontas, an upset is now thinkable.


32 posted on 09/11/2012 4:57:38 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: ozzymandus

But if they lie, they are killing their own “marketing brand” when the results are finally in. I’m surprised the ‘big biys’ in thus game are screwing around with their credibility that they are going to have to SELL down the line.


33 posted on 09/11/2012 5:20:38 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: clearcarbon

BINGO!!!


34 posted on 09/11/2012 5:28:06 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: oldernittany
BUMP TO THE TOP!

35 posted on 09/11/2012 5:36:57 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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