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Book:Karl Rove advised Komen to restore Planned Parenthood funding
dailycaller.com ^ | 9-10-12 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 09/10/2012 10:59:41 PM PDT by STARWISE

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To: presently no screen name

What are you babbling about hatred for America??? Fact is Obama would have never won if we didn’t go to war in Iraq. We lost probably 4-6 senate seats in 2006-08 due to the Iraq war. No Iraq no Obama no obamacare.


51 posted on 09/11/2012 8:38:02 AM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: Bobloblaw2012
Apparently you've forgotten (if indeed you ever knew) that prior to 2003, the entire civilized world was in agreement that Saddam Hussein possessed chemical weapons contrary to agreements he made after he got kicked out of Kuwait - he proved he had them - he used them.

The only real question can be "Where did he hide them?".

52 posted on 09/11/2012 8:47:23 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: STARWISE

I’ve never liked Rove and I’m not surprised at this.


53 posted on 09/11/2012 8:55:10 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: robowombat

Just yesterday I said on FB that I do believe there is something demonic about these abortion supporters and the homosexual agenda and I do not attribute the devil to much, I believe some people CHOOSE of their own free will to do evil things. These people are violent and malicious in a whole new category of crazy even the look on some of their faces it’s distorted!We have millions of people without jobs, NO health care and a immoral deficit and we are talking about free abortions free birth control, and gay marriage, that is just insane.


54 posted on 09/11/2012 8:57:04 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: STARWISE

Rove is basically a community agitator like O’Beelzebub is/was.


55 posted on 09/11/2012 9:02:04 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Bobloblaw2012
What are you babbling about hatred for America???

Here's more 'babble' for YOU as you call it.... Roll over and play dead is VOID of PATRIOTISM!

Fact is Obama would have never won if we didn’t go to war

Fact is - that's an idiot's thinking brought to you by the liberal media that you embrace! Wimps are repulsive to me and an enemy to America as they are NOT willing to protect her - they just want what America has to offer them on the backs of PATRIOTS!

Get lost, newbie, you are a dime a dozen - if I wanted your BS - I could flick on the liberal TV or go to the cave of wimps where they hide and bow to the enemy with 'propaganda drool' on their chin.

56 posted on 09/11/2012 9:05:06 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: robowombat

-— I am secular but there are times when it seems impossible not to see that satanic forces have gained control of the souls of tens of thousands of the ‘political and cultural elite’ of the US. -—

Impossible not to see, because it’s true. Sodomy is grotesque, self-destructive, and wholly irrational. That in itself is instructive. But the effort to raise these abominations to the level of a secular religion, requires an extra-natural explanation.

Along with intellect and free will, the greatest gift that God has given us is the ability to cooperate with Him in creating new life. Both infanticide (murder) and sodomy (the most perverse use of the reproductive system) amount to spitting in God’s Face.


57 posted on 09/11/2012 9:18:53 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: wardaddy

-— just look at Laura..a genteel lady no doubt...but a social liberal just like the daughters she raised ——

Yup. Lots of folks here call her “classy.”

Support for abortion isn’t “classy,” it’s depraved.

In consideration of that fact, she always struck me as bloodless. The well-mannered abortion supporters are more frightening than the feminazis.


58 posted on 09/11/2012 9:27:00 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: robowombat
What is it about our leadership (so called) group that makes infanticide and queer sex the most morally compelling issues to support, relentlessly assist and defend.

In Oliver Stone's W., Richard Dreyfuss portrayed Karl Rove. (He and Gary Oldman like to portray leading Republicans as baddies.) Stone puts in Dreyfuss's mouth a line, deep into the film, that appears to make Rove a closeted homosexual. Rove married late in life, in 1984, when the George H.W. Bush and stayed with his (second) wife Darby for over 20 years (kids? -- who knows?), divorcing in 2010. (He was briefly married in the 70's to a woman named Valerie Wainright. Hmm, what does she know?)

So, is "Turd Blossom" gay? Deeply closeted? Or smeared by Oliver Stone, Richard Dreyfuss, and the Hollywood "Velvet Underground"?

59 posted on 09/11/2012 9:27:48 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Happy Rain; Travis McGee; STARWISE
Karl Rove is Soros’s most influential mole.

Consider his CV: He came up with George H.W. Bush when the latter was chairman of the RNC, back in 1972-3. He came to Bush's attention with some dirty-tricks fight with another guy over a Republican Party post; Bush stepped in, thought, "gee, cool" and promptly ran the other guy out of the Party and hired Rove.

Rove was there in 1980 with "Poppy" when it was time to blackmail Poppy's way onto the ticket, and he was there when Bush cashed in his patronage by giving away the store to the "pigs at the trough".

Later "Turd Blossom" was reassigned to "baby-sit" (locution of another pro pol telling stories) the bibulous, hell-raising Dubya, who at the time was exhibiting an acute case of "preacher's son". And everything else flowed from that.

But the larger point is, Rove was tight with The Old Man back when Poppy was New-World-Ordering. So yeah, Rove knows lots of creepy people in black limousines.

60 posted on 09/11/2012 9:41:33 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: DuncanWaring

Sadaam never had WMDs in 2003. He was lying. Why? Saddens biggest enemy was Iran the Shites and the Kurds. If they knew he didn’t have WMDS, his regime would be in jeopardy. I’m not saying Bush was lying, he wasn’t. Sadaam was the one lying. Iraq never believed the USA would invade. It was another in Sadaams long line of miscalculations.

If there had never been an Iraq war Obama would not have won, mostly likely Hilary would have. Also it is a 100% certainly that George Allen would have won in 2006. We could have stop Hillarycare2 with the filibuster. Conrad Burns, Mike Dewine and Jim Talent most likely lost cuz of the war. Add Norm Cileman to the list too. Instead of 40 senators we’d have had 45 minimum. Enough to stop any stimulus and any socialized medicine. I also think there would have been friction between Hillary and Pelosi that would have prevented congress and the white house from accomplishing much.

It not cowardly to take a second look at the war and ask ourselves if things would have been better had there been no war.


61 posted on 09/11/2012 10:29:15 AM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: bd476
Rove displayed his own character by his sick twisted joke about Akin. This guy is on one big ego trip.
62 posted on 09/11/2012 10:42:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Say what you will about Beck, but since watching him on his new network where he calls the shots and what is covered, I learn far, far more and can count on his calling out whoever is being a **** and can back it up.


63 posted on 09/11/2012 10:42:29 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: liberty or death
I don’t think he’s “Pro Abortion”. What he is is an absolute political coward. For whatever reason he always seeks the easy way out. Following his advice will lead to disaster after Romney/Ryan win. The Rom/Ry ticket needs to stay focused on tax reform and states rights. The RNC needs to find a way to get Rove retired and to STFU.

I disagree... Rove's joke about Akin pretty much exposes his character. That 'compassionate' conservatism is limited to US allowing the invasion of illegals and paying for their healthcare and education. He is a punk, smart, but still a punk.

64 posted on 09/11/2012 10:45:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Bobloblaw2012
Sadaam never had WMDs in 2003.

He certainly had chemical weapons before 2003.

He refused to show how he had gotten rid of them.

What did he do with them, and when?

65 posted on 09/11/2012 11:12:06 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mazda77
fox did Beck wrong... in a bad way. I like Beck but we do not always agree. He trashed Clint the morning after the his skit... I didn't agree with him at all... but most of the time I find him very credible and sincere.

LLS

66 posted on 09/11/2012 11:16:14 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: STARWISE

so heresay from the book to a woman who is quoting heresay from Rove?

If anything I am more inclined to believe the koman director (not the author) was BSing her.

(see also, if it is on the interet it must be true)


67 posted on 09/11/2012 11:53:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bobloblaw2012

So, 500 tons of yellow cake is not WMD or planned for WMD? Or did you conveniently forget about that one too. Just in case you are wondering, it ended up being shipped to Canada for some idiotic reason and that was after Saddam was ousted.

And I suppose you will have no problem facing the survivors of Halabja to tell them that Saddam did not have WMD’s. It takes just the size of a briefcase to hold all the precursors to produce WMD’s but are you also self induced to believe he didn’t have them until the bombs came crashing down. One quick dump into the Tigris and all is forgiven in your world.

Then if you really want a capper on your crap, go to the vets with what was called Gulf War Syndrome and tell them the same thing face to face. I know several personaly if you would like to start a list.


68 posted on 09/11/2012 12:25:50 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: mazda77; Just mythoughts; AHerald; GeronL; robowombat; JCBreckenridge; Viennacon; nickcarraway; ...

Rove disputes claim he encouraged funding of Planned Parenthood
3:34 PM 09/11/2012

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Karl Rove told The Daily Caller on Tuesday that he’s disputing a new book claiming he advised the leader of breast cancer group Susan G. Komen for the Cure to reverse course and pledge to start funding Planned Parenthood again.

Reached by phone, the prominent Republican strategist said the charge made by former Komen senior vice president Karen Handel in “Planned Bullyhood” is “not accurate.” He declined to elaborate.

Handel writes that Rove was among those advising Susan G. Komen for the Cure to reverse course earlier this year after announcing it would stop giving money to Planned Parenthood, which has clinics that perform abortions.

Komen eventually announced it would restore funding to Planned Parenthood after finding itself embroiled in a public relations fiasco as pro-choice and other liberal activists protested.

The author recalls Susan G. Komen for the Cure CEO Nancy Brinker telling her that “I’ve talked to a lot of people. And even Karl says we have to backtrack.”

Handel, who said she didn’t know who “Karl” was at first, recalls Brinker clarifying that she was talking about Rove.

Conservatives reacted to the report with disappointment on Tuesday. “Ever had concerns about Karl Rove? Add this to the list,” RedState editor Erick Erickson wrote on Twitter.

If the allegation is true, it would mean that Rove was advising Komen to restore Planned Parenthood funding as Mitt Romney and the other Republican candidates for president were railing against it.

Reached by TheDC, Komen wouldn’t directly address the claim.

“The book, like many books, contains the author’s personal recollections and views about the organization and its leadership,” spokeswoman Andrea Rader said. “We won’t comment on her personal views or her memory of events. We are moving forward and we are completely focused on our mission to end breast cancer and help women worldwide.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/11/rove-disputes-claim-he-encouraged-funding-of-planned-parenthood/#ixzz26CRsVaaC

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According to the Post, Handel recounts a conversation with Komen CEO and founder Nancy Brinker in the book as follows:

“We’re so sorry,” said Nancy. “We’re so sorry. But we just have to reverse course.” [...]

Nancy’s reply stunned me. “Karen, I’ve talked to a lot of people. And even Karl says we have to backtrack. There’s just no other way.”

“Karl? Who’s Karl?”

She looked at me strangely as if I should know exactly who she was talking about. She said, “Karl Rove!”

Rove today told The Daily Caller that the account was “not accurate” although he did not elaborate for the website when reached by phone. He indicated he was disputing the account.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/rove-planned-parenthood-book/2012/09/11/id/451424

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Reached by TheDC, Komen wouldn’t directly address the claim.

“The book, like many books, contains the author’s personal recollections and views about the organization and its leadership,” spokeswoman Andrea Rader said. “We won’t comment on her personal views or her memory of events. We are moving forward and we are completely focused on our mission to end breast cancer and help women worldwide.”

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/11/karl-rove-disputes-claim-he-urged-komen-to-fund-planned-parenthood/

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***FYI

Sadly, Laura Bush is not pro life like her devoutly pro life husband, Pres. George W. Bush.

Laura Bush and Nancy Brinker are long time friends.

Nancy Brinker’s sister, Susan Komen, died at a young age from breast cancer, and Nancy Brinker established the Susan G. Komen charity in her sister’s honor.

When Pres. Bush appointed Nancy Brinker as Ambassador to Hungary and then as White House Chief of Protocol, I’m sure it was because she’s obviously an accomplished professional, AND she’s also a long time family friend, insider and political contributor.

As many years as Karl Rove was part of the Bush family circle and campaigns, there’s NO way he wouldn’t be on very familiar and friendly terms with Nancy Brinker and the Susan G. Komen charity founded by Brinker.

Links for background:

Laura Bush pays homage to former protocol chief
http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1009/laura_bush_lauds_brinker.html

Mrs. Laura Bush joins Nancy Brinker, founder of the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, fourth from left, and women from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Monday, June 12, 2006, at the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation’s 2006 Mission Conference in Washington, D.C
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/06/images/20060612-1_p061206sc-0043-1-515h.html

Komen for the Cure: How the Group’s Founder Courted Controversy
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/05/komen-for-the-cure-how-the-group-s-founder-courted-controversy.html

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/nationworld/report/020612_komen_pparenthood_texas/road-komen-planned-parenthood-drama-leads-texas/

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God help them .. they don’t consider OR refuse to consider the research on the increased risk of breast cancer FROM abortion.

The ABC Link

http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/The_Link.htm

Elder care math: 74 million retirees minus 55 million aborted babies
http://www.jillstanek.com/2012/08/elder-care-math-74-million-retirees-minus-55-million-aborted-babies/

God love and hold the 55+ million murdered innocents in His loving arms always.


69 posted on 09/11/2012 4:21:31 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: robowombat

Do you think it is because the sins of our nation,we took prayer out of schools in 1962,then we allow abortion in 1973,50 million babies died.I wonder if God is moving His hand off of America.God help us if He is


70 posted on 09/11/2012 4:25:56 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: lentulusgracchus
How many more GOP insiders are closet dwellers vulnerable to black mail and nursing real rage towards straight religiously oriented middle Americans who make up the party base? How many? Steve Schmidt?, CJ Roberts? the current NRA President and former ACU President (ever wonder why that organization just deflated over time?) The gay caballeros are just much more numerous inside the beltway and inside politics than say in industrial engineering. More carefully hide in plain sight than are open like Barney Fwank.
71 posted on 09/11/2012 4:36:24 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: STARWISE

I don’t trust him. I never have.


72 posted on 09/11/2012 4:40:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: STARWISE
In a similar vein, look at what KKKarl said about abortion on O'Reilly last week:

KARL ROVE: And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.

Which tells you that the Republican party platform isn't "serious." Social conservatives know KKKarl is their biggest enemy next to Barack Obama. Just listen to Steve Deace's radio show. KKKarl is one of the heads of the GOP establishment, who approve of abortion and same-sex marriage. Abortion is nothing new for the GOP establishment. Rush has talked about how 20 years ago a prominent Republican came up to him asking how they can get the "pro-lifers" out of the party because they're "killing us."

The reasons for Rove doing this are simple. 1: The GOP establishment doesn't personally object to legal abortion and same-sex marriage. 2: They wouldn't mind adding the votes of all people who agree with them on abortion and same-sex marriage to the Republican column.

Their plan to get there is to use as much "stealth" as necessary to push abortion and same-sex marriage without making it so prominent in the platform that they lose votes from social conservatives. What this primarily means is making sure abortion and same-sex marriage are not talked about by the right at all so that the left can continue spreading both of them unopposed.

73 posted on 09/11/2012 4:43:16 PM PDT by JediJones (Grow your own dope...plant a Democrat.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the info. Still, “not accurate” is hardly a clear and unequivocal denial. The devil’s often in the parsing. So, I’m in wait and see mode ...


74 posted on 09/11/2012 4:46:01 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: AHerald

LOL, that’s definitely not a denial in any way, shape or form. It’s pure political gobbledygook.


75 posted on 09/11/2012 4:49:15 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: STARWISE
turd blossom
1. (noun) In west Texas, a desert wild flower that grows up out of a meadow muffin.
2. (proper noun) One of G.W. Bush's nicknames for Karl Rove.

Nah, Tokyo Rove is just a turd.
76 posted on 09/11/2012 4:53:20 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: STARWISE
Amen. I do not believe karl rove and this woman had no reason to mention him in this book unless she had spoken with him. He is probably justifying his stance by parsing the words he actually used. How clintonian.

LLS

77 posted on 09/11/2012 7:04:41 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I have no idea whether rove is a poofter or not... but I do know that he ain’t no Lee Atwater.

LLS


78 posted on 09/11/2012 7:08:40 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: STARWISE

“Sadly, Laura Bush is not pro life like her devoutly pro life husband, Pres. George W. Bush”

Bush believes in murdering the child if you don’t like who the father is, as in rape and incest. This is certainly
not “devoutly pro-life”.

Bush also appointed more openly homosexuals to his administration than any republican president in history. As a matter of fact more homosexuals worked for Bush than Clinton. The smirking, grinning Laura Bush loved it when her husband appointed a sodomite to a high position. The minute Bush was no longer president, she got on the Larry King Show and proudly told him she was PRO-ABORTION AND PRO-HOMO MARRIAGE. Her daughters share the same opinions.
The Bushes are all liberals. Every last one of them. His present to America was current the liberal in chief. If Bush has been a conservative who governed like a conservative, Obummer would not be the president now.


79 posted on 09/11/2012 7:32:21 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the post. Valuable information.


80 posted on 09/11/2012 7:42:34 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: NKP_Vet

You’re quite the nasty piece of work = toxic tone and BDS.
Thankfully, honest historians won’t be hobbled by such disorders.

God bless and protect Pres. George W. Bush.
I’m especially grateful for him today,
September 11.


81 posted on 09/11/2012 8:14:03 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Maybe rove has found girls to agree to do the unthinkable with him on the side. Maybe he has been a customer.


82 posted on 09/11/2012 8:23:16 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Chgogal

I like the way you think. Hearts and minds and the right vocabulary. I love it.


83 posted on 09/11/2012 8:32:00 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: STARWISE

Every word I said about Bush is fact. Whether you believe it or not is not my concern. His grandfather Prescott Bush was was involved with the American Birth Control League (founded by Margaret Sanger) as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947. The Bushes are, and always have been, New England Rockefeller liberal republicans.


84 posted on 09/11/2012 9:13:41 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I don’t care if his great uncle’s Aunt Fannie hid in the forest and lured little children into her evil lair with poisoned red apples, Pres. Bush did not govern at all with anything close to the alleged sensibilities of his grandfather, and if you really had informed knowledge about him and his policies, you’d know it. I must conclude that, not only are you flip and snarky, you’re in the dark.

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National Sanctity of Human Life Day, 2003

By the President of the United States of America
A Proclamation

Obtained from http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030114-13.html

Our nation was built on a promise of life and liberty for all citizens. Guided by a deep respect for human dignity, our Founding Fathers worked to secure these rights for future generations, and today we continue to seek to fulfill their promise in our laws and our society. On National Sanctity of Human Life Day, we reaffirm the value of human life and renew our dedication to ensuring that every American has access to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

As we seek to improve quality of life, overcome illness, and promote vital medical research, my Administration will continue to honor our country’s founding ideals of equal dignity and equal rights for every American. Every child is a priority and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and protected by law.

My Administration has championed compassionate alternatives to abortion, such as helping women in crisis through maternity group homes, encouraging adoption, promoting abstinence education, and passing laws requiring parental notification and waiting periods for minors.

The Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which I signed into law in August 2002, is an important contribution to our efforts to care for human life. This important legislation helps protect the most vulnerable members of our society by ensuring that every infant born alive, including one who survives abortion, is considered a person and receives protection under Federal law.

It helps achieve the promises of the Declaration of Independence for all, including those without the voice and power to defend their own rights.

Through ethical policies and the compassion of Americans, we will continue to build a culture that respects life. Faith-based and community organizations and individual citizens play a critical role in strengthening our neighborhoods and bringing care and comfort to those in need.

By helping fellow citizens, these groups recognize the dignity of every human being and the possibilities of every life; and their important efforts are helping to build a more just and generous Nation. By working together to protect the weak, the imperfect, and the unwanted, we affirm a culture of hope and help ensure a brighter future for all.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim Sunday, January 19, 2003, as National Sanctity of Human Life Day.

As we reflect upon the sanctity of human life, I call upon all Americans to recognize this day with appropriate ceremonies in our homes and places of worship, to rededicate ourselves to compassionate service, and to reaffirm our commitment to respecting the life and dignity of every human being.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this fourteenth day of January, in the year of our Lord two thousand three, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and twenty-seventh.

GEORGE W. BUSH

http://www.faithleap.org/presidentbush.htm

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Bush vetoes embryonic stem-cell bill
July 19, 2006

President Bush holds a child who was adopted while an embryo Wednesday after vetoing a stem-cell research bill.

President Bush used his veto power Wednesday for the first time since taking office 5 1/2 years ago, saying that an embryonic stem-cell research bill “crossed a moral boundary.”

The bill, which the Senate passed Tuesday, 63-37, would have loosened the restrictions on federal funding for stem-cell research.

House Republican leaders tried Wednesday evening to override the veto, but that vote was 235 to 193, short of the necessary two-thirds majority.

“This bill would support the taking of innocent human life in the hope of finding medical benefits for others,” Bush said Wednesday afternoon. “It crosses a moral boundary that our decent society needs to respect. So I vetoed it.

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-07-19/politics/stemcells.veto_1_embryonic-stem-cell-destruction-of-human-embryos-moral-boundary?_s=PM:POLITICS

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****Save your derangement and lack of perspective for an authentic evil baby killer, the insidious current resident.****
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Obama: End Funding for Snowflake Embryo Adoption Program

President Barack Obama is seeking to end federal funding for a pro-life program installed during the administration of President George W. Bush that helped save unborn babies potentially slated for destruction in fertility clinics.

The “snowflake baby” program provided funding for adoption-awareness programs for the children who were formerly stored human embryos at fertility clinics who could have been destroyed for scientific research.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/03/05/obama-end-funding-for-snowflake-embryo-adoption-program/

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And ....

****the same current resident, who despicably voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act as an Illinois senator, more than once, with no regrets.

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Links to Barack Obama’s votes on Illinois’ Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Below is a listing of then-state Senator Barack Obama’s votes and state senate floor speeches on IL’s Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

(At right is a political cartoon by Jack Higgins, printed in the Chicago Sun-Times on August 25, 2004, during his U.S. Senate campaign.)

A package of Born Alive bills was introduced three times during Obama’s tenure.

The cornerstone bill was the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, aka “Born Alive Infant Defined,” which defined legal personhood to include born alive infants any time the words “person,” “human being,” “child,” or “individual” was stated in IL law.

This definition was identical to the federal BAIPA which was drafted from the definition of “live birth” created by the World Health Organization in 1950 and adopted by the United Nations in 1955.

Following are Obama’s actions and votes on Born Alive. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.

2001

Senate Bill 1095, Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Obama’s “no” vote in the IL Senate Judiciary Committee here, March 28, 2001
Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001, pages 84-90

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

Obama’s “present” vote on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001

2002

Senate Bill 1662, Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Transcript of Obama taking credit for Christ Hospital’s Comfort Room in the IL Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, March 5, 2002
Obama’s “no” vote in the IL Senate Judiciary Committee, March 6, 2002
Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002, pages 28-35

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST040402.pdf

Obama’s “no” vote on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002
Listen to audio from Obama’s 2002 IL Senate floor debate wherein he argued that while babies might be aborted alive, it would be a “burden” to a mother’s “original decision” to assess and treat them.

http://www.jillstanek.com/2008/08/obama-caught-on-tape-arguing-against-giving-medical-attention-to-aborted-babies/

Meanwhile, the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act with a “neutrality clause” added passed the U.S. Senate 98-0, the U.S. House overwhelmingly, and was signed into law August 5, 2002. The pro-abortion group NARAL expressed neutrality on the bill.

2003

Senate Bill 1082, Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Democrats took control of the IL Senate with the 2002 elections. This year Born Alive was sent to the Health & Human Services Committee, chaired by Barack Obama.

As can be seen on the vote docket, Obama first voted to amend SB1082 to add the “neutrality clause” from the federal version of Born Alive to the IL version to make them absolutely identical. (DP#1 means “Do Pass Amendment #1.)

Then Obama voted against the identical version. (DPA means, “Do Pass as Amended.)

Additional corroboration of Obama’s vote: IL State Senate Republican Staff Analysis of SB 1082, March 12-13, 2003, bottom of page 2

For 4 years following his 2003 vote Obama misrepresented it, stating the wording of the IL version of Born Alive was not the same as the federal version, and he would have voted for it if so. As recently as August 16, 2008, Obama made this false assertion.

But when evidence presented was irrefutable, Obama’s campaign on August 18, 2008, admitted the truth to the New York Sun.

The nonpartison group FactCheck.org has since corroborated Obama voted against identical legislation as passed overwhelmingly on the federal level and then misrepresented his vote.

http://www.jillstanek.com/2008/02/links-to-barack-obamas-votes-on-illinois-born-alive-infant-protection-act/


85 posted on 09/11/2012 10:04:16 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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