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US 'hushed up' Soviet guilt over Katyn
BBC News Europe ^ | September 11, 2012 | BBC News Europe

Posted on 09/11/2012 5:22:25 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

New evidence appears to back the idea that the Roosevelt administration helped cover up Soviet guilt for the 1940 Katyn massacre of Polish soldiers.

Historians said documents, released by the US National Archives, supported the suspicion that the US did not want to anger its wartime ally, Joseph Stalin.

They showed the US was sent coded messages suggesting the Soviets, not the Nazis, carried out the massacre.

More than 22,000 Poles were killed by the Soviets on Stalin's orders.

Soviet Russia only admitted to the atrocity in 1990 after blaming the Nazis for five decades.

According to a review of the documents by the Associated Press, they show that American prisoners of war sent coded messages to Washington in 1943 saying they had been taken to see corpses in an advanced state of decay in the Katyn forest near Smolensk, in western Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: fdr; kastyn; poland; soviet
(NARA) Records Relating to the Katyn Forest Massacre at the National Archives
1 posted on 09/11/2012 5:22:30 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

And it was the Soviets who started,and perpetuated,the rumor that Pope Pius XII was a Nazi sympathizer.The Poles,probably more than any other people,suffered during WWII and its aftermath.They were brutally invaded and occupied by the Germans in 1939 and brutally “liberated” and occupied by the Soviets from 1945 to 1990.The struggle between the Nazis and the Soviets,like so many other struggles,was one that you’d wish *both* sides could have lost.


2 posted on 09/11/2012 5:31:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“The struggle between the Nazis and the Soviets,like so many other struggles,was one that you’d wish *both* sides could have lost.”

Sort of like this November.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 5:34:33 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Timber Rattler

The more I learn about Franklin Delano the greater am I appalled


4 posted on 09/11/2012 5:36:09 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

agreed. our first socialist president.
(and before the war, he publicly admired Hitler!)
he laid the groundwork, for the mess today,
especially social security.
and like Obama, he turned a typical business cycle recession, into a years long depression.


5 posted on 09/11/2012 5:40:19 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: yldstrk

“The more I learn about Franklin Delano the greater am I appalled”

He was vile. His legacy lives on.


6 posted on 09/11/2012 5:42:06 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
.They were brutally invaded and occupied by the Germans in 1939 ...

Don't forget Poland was invaded from the east by the Soviets 16 days after the Germans invaded from the west.

7 posted on 09/11/2012 5:44:03 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Psalm 144

So who you voting for genius, what a stupid thing to say


8 posted on 09/11/2012 5:50:40 AM PDT by reefdiver (zer0 One and Done)
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To: Timber Rattler

This incident was a primary theme in the WEB Griffin book The Lieutenants and the rest of the series. So far as a coverup, the reports were not especially important when compared to the business of the day, killing Germans.

Dead Polish officers lose importance when you are up to your ass in refugees.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 5:52:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: yldstrk

“Good” King FDR was the worst until January 2009.

FUBO and America’s enemies you love so much!


10 posted on 09/11/2012 5:53:50 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yeah well, we were involved in this World War thing at the time


11 posted on 09/11/2012 5:55:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: reefdiver

Neither one.


12 posted on 09/11/2012 5:59:35 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Timber Rattler

That the Democrats still worship FDR tells us a lot. He was such a low-life that his mother kept the family finances, which were considerable, until she died in her nineties. She did not trust him with the family checkbook, but the Democrats put him in charge of the US government for four terms, even when he was all but dead and his Communist wife was running the country.

Looking at the nation’s history for the past 80 years, it’s a shame that all lDemocrats can’t be tried for treason. They have done more to destroy American than any foreign enemies.


13 posted on 09/11/2012 6:01:46 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Timber Rattler

More FDR perfidy.


14 posted on 09/11/2012 6:03:20 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: Psalm 144

But, he was a ‘rat, loved by the media, so everything was/is cool.


15 posted on 09/11/2012 6:06:16 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: txrefugee

“Looking at the nation’s history for the past 80 years, it’s a shame that all lDemocrats can’t be tried for treason. They have done more to destroy American than any foreign enemies.”

Both parties are accomplices. Granted the Democrats do the actual armed robberies, but the Republicans then drive the getaway car. That is the pattern. The Republicans’ job is to make the disruption smooth again, and sooth the ruffled feathers. That is about to happen again. We’ll be put back to sleep, as the distortions of the past three years and ten months are quietly integrated into the ‘norm’. The two parties are not adversaries, they are a Mutt and Jeff team.


16 posted on 09/11/2012 6:19:59 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: txrefugee

The GOP is now telling us how they can manage socialism better than the DEMS. The real problem is you can’t manage socialism.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 6:32:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: yldstrk
The more I learn about Franklin Delano the greater am I appalled

Lots of things were overlooked after the USSR became an ally against Nazi Germany during WWII. They also forgot about the Soviet-Nazi Pact that existed until the Nazis invaded the USSR.

18 posted on 09/11/2012 6:33:21 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Timber Rattler

The pact between Hitler and Stalin gave Stalin the green light. The German Army found only honor in Blitzkrieg on phony reasons to kill the Polish people. There is blood on both hands.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 6:36:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Timber Rattler

this is old news in Poland. FDR was a scumbag who sold out the Poles to the Soviets


20 posted on 09/11/2012 6:39:46 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The Soviets invaded Poland with Hitler in 1939.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland


21 posted on 09/11/2012 7:09:04 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Timber Rattler

Other thread here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2929018/posts


22 posted on 09/11/2012 7:12:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Actually the best case scenario would have been for Hitler to take Moscow and put Stalin at risk of being overthrown by the likes of Khrushchev, who certainly while not a saint, would have been much better than Stalin.


23 posted on 09/11/2012 7:15:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator
Krushchev was too far down the food chain then to be a direct threat to Stalin. It would have had to have been someone like Beria or Molotov.
24 posted on 09/11/2012 7:18:01 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: Reily

I couldn’t see Beria turning on Stalin, unless he thought Stalin was going to kill him first, and Molotov was weak. Khrushchev was certainly capable of forming a coalition. A lot of people see him as a buffoon because of how he acted when he was the leader of the Soviet Union, but he was a very shrewd man.


25 posted on 09/11/2012 7:22:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator

yes he was!
a lot of ruthless people between him and “The BOSS”...maybe he could have pulled it off


26 posted on 09/11/2012 8:19:00 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: Timber Rattler

bttt


27 posted on 09/11/2012 11:09:19 AM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: Timber Rattler

FDR the darling of the Left and Progressives knew all about this but did not want to disclose this and covered up this war crime involving his friends in Russia.

“The historical record carries other evidence Roosevelt knew in 1943 of Soviet guilt. One of the most important messages that landed on FDR’s desk was an extensive and detailed report British Prime Minister Winston Churchill sent him. Written by the British ambassador to the Polish government-in-exile in London, Owen O’Malley, it pointed to Soviet guilt at Katyn.”

Read more: http://www.sbsun.com/ci_21507329/ap-exclusive-memos-show-us-hushed-up-soviet#ixzz26CSFlica


28 posted on 09/11/2012 2:46:49 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: yldstrk

The parallels of how Obama is covering up crimes committed by our Islamist enemies just as FDR did for Stalin are remarkable.


29 posted on 09/11/2012 2:49:17 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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