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Flight 23 - The 5th plane to be seized on 9/11, and the terrorists who got away
NewsWorks ^ | 05.16.2011 | Jan C. Ting

Posted on 09/11/2012 6:50:56 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles

Have you heard about the airliner which was ordered back to the gate on 9/11 when the terrorist attacks began, only to have four young Arab passengers jump off the plane, after which box cutters and Al Qaeda documents were found in their abandoned bags?


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KEYWORDS: 11thanniversary; 5th; 5th911plane; 5thplane; 911; 911anniversary; alqaeda; flight23; jfkairport; lax; plane; timmons; ual
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The profile of General Timmons recounts that on the morning of September 11, 2001, she was the first officer on United Airlines flight 23 preparing to take-off from New York's JFK Airport bound for Los Angeles. The plane had already pulled away from the gate and was taxiing down the runway when the airport was shut down and the crew was ordered to secure the cockpit.

Timmons confirmed that as the pilot grabbed the crash ax, she jumped from her seat and started barricading the cockpit door. From the other side of the barricade the cabin crew relayed their concern about four young Arab men in first-class who became agitated when the take-off was cancelled, and fled from the plane when it returned to the terminal. Box cutters and Al Qaeda documents were later found in their luggage.

1 posted on 09/11/2012 6:51:03 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I wonder how many other teams there might have been


2 posted on 09/11/2012 6:53:40 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

i remember hearing about this...


3 posted on 09/11/2012 6:54:53 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

But I thought 9/11 was a government conspiracy that Bush and Cheney masterminded. /s


4 posted on 09/11/2012 6:55:30 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Huh? Who opened the airplane door so they could flee when the plane teached the terminal - especially when they were acting suspiciously?

Sorry, I don’t buy it.


5 posted on 09/11/2012 6:56:24 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Yes, I heard about it. In the few weeks after 9/11, when I was a flight attendant, I and many others heard it was a plane either in Washington, DC or Baltimore.

We also heard of many other instances of boxcutters being found in seat back pockets not long afterwards.

And of the recovery teams in NY finding human remains of people who had survived the initial blast and destruction, only to die when they couldn’t be rescued days to weeks later.


6 posted on 09/11/2012 6:56:50 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
This is the first I've ever heard of it and I suspect it's rumors, or it would have been talked to death by the media.
7 posted on 09/11/2012 6:59:04 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I didn’t know this.

But other Freepers did. See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1765390/posts


8 posted on 09/11/2012 7:00:11 AM PDT by kidd
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To: latina4dubya

There were several arab pilots invited to the cockpit that day. sometimes done as courtesy to other pilots. i remember reading several disappeared as planes forced back to gates.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 7:00:45 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: woweeitsme
AlQaida had a huge ground support team for this opeation ~ wasn't just 19 guys on planes, and maybe a few dozen others on planes that didn't get taken over.

I live not far from where their DC ground support team had been assembled. There were 75 taxicabs in that neighborhood. It was a real parking space concern ~ so we were all counting the cabs to see just how bad a problem we had.

On 9/11 that dropped to 15 taxicabs. 60 cabs, their drivers, their dependents, and others living with them in that townhouse development DISAPPEARED!

Since then we haven't had more than 18 cabs in the area ~ but we did have an AlQaida guy come back to the area to make contact. He was identified by Afghans and shot to death on a basketball court.

We lived with federal investigators staking out the area for several years.

10 posted on 09/11/2012 7:02:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GeronL
I wonder how many other teams there might have been

This is the real concern. According to my readings for my Master's Degree (National Security Affairs with a concentration in Homeland Security) the southern border is so porus that for the last ten years or more, 10% of all the illegal crossers apprehended have been from threat nations. If the math is correct that could mean up to 70,000 potential terrorists still lurking inside our borders waiting to strike. Even if some of them converted to the American ideal of a happy life, I'll bet far more are still in the hunt for those ineffable virgins.

11 posted on 09/11/2012 7:03:41 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Grounded on 9-11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPJXB6mUK8


12 posted on 09/11/2012 7:04:30 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Bocephus hits a home run! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_vjPqAVzI)
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To: ExSoldier

I’m not so sure. I clearly remember stories both confirmed and unconfirmed of similar nature back when these events unfolded 11 years ago. Free Republic might even have them archived.


13 posted on 09/11/2012 7:05:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: GeronL
The original “bojinka” plan had up to 20 airliners being seized at the same time, over the Pacific and elsewhere

KSM, the poor fellow whop was so cruelly waterboarded, was the mastermind of bojinka and also of 9-11

Thanks to the information so grudgingly provided to the CIA by the soggy KSM and other sources, the Bush administration in...? (don't remember the year but remember the airplanes being grounded in Dulles and London) foiled another wave of suicide hijackings of flights originating in London and DC

Cheney has alluded to this successful operation

However,before the boychild obama was installed, we used to have national security teams that did not leak classified information for narcissistic and political gain

14 posted on 09/11/2012 7:13:03 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

“And of the recovery teams in NY finding human remains of people who had survived the initial blast and destruction, only to die when they couldn’t be rescued days to weeks later.”

I hadn’t heard that one. Perhaps someone got it mixed up with the (true) stories of sailors trapped in sunken warships at Pearl Harbor?


15 posted on 09/11/2012 7:13:48 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: jtal

Right...also doesn’t make sense to bring “Al Qaeda documents” with them.


16 posted on 09/11/2012 7:15:13 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: PLMerite

Absolutely not.

Someone working at the airline got on our plane, the blood drained from his face. Either his brother or close friend was part of the rescue/recovery teams and he had just heard from them.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 7:21:26 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: silverleaf
the soggy KSM and other sources

You owe me a new keyboard and monitor.

Note to self: do not drink coffee while reading FR.

18 posted on 09/11/2012 7:25:50 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

There were young Middle eastern men living on the second floor of the house across the street from us in Malden, MA. Which is about a 20 minute drive to Logan. They would be up on the computer all night because we could see them with the shades up. They paid cash for the rent and said they went to school in Boston. But were around during the day. They disappeared on the day after the attacks.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 7:26:00 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

There were young Middle eastern men living on the second floor of the house across the street from us in Malden, MA. Which is about a 20 minute drive to Logan. They would be up on the computer all night because we could see them with the shades up. They paid cash for the rent and said they went to school in Boston. But were around during the day. They disappeared on the day after the attacks.


20 posted on 09/11/2012 7:26:22 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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