Skip to comments.PIPES: ‘Barry was Muslim’
Posted on 09/11/2012 7:51:42 AM PDT by all the best
Many pieces of evidence argue for Barack Obama having been born and raised a Muslim:
(1) Islam is a patrilineal religion: In Islam, the father passes his faith to the children, and when a Muslim man has children with a non-Muslim woman, Islam considers those children Muslim. Mr. Obamas grandfather and father having been Muslims the extent of their piety matters not at all means that in Muslim eyes, Mr. Obama was born a Muslim.
(2) Arabic forenames based on the H-S-N trilateral root: All such names (Husayn or Hussein, Hasan, Hassan, Hassanein, Ahsan and others) are exclusively bestowed on Muslim babies. (The same goes for names based on the H-M-D root.) Mr. Obamas middle name, Hussein, explicitly proclaims him born a Muslim.
(3) Registered as Muslim at SD Katolik Santo Fransiskus Asisi: Mr. Obama was registered at a Catholic school in Jakarta as Barry Soetoro. A surviving document correctly lists him as born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. In addition, it lists him as having Indonesian nationality and Muslim religion.
(4) Registered as Muslim at SD Besuki: Although Besuki (also known as SDN 1 Menteng) is a public school, Mr. Obama curiously refers to it in The Audacity of Hope (Page 154) as the Muslim school he attended in Jakarta. Its records have not survived, but several journalists (Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star, Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times and David Maraniss of The Washington Post) all have confirmed that there, too, he was registered as a Muslim.
(5) Islamic class at Besuki: Mr. Obama mentions that at Besuki, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies. Only Muslim students attended the weekly two-hour Koran class, Mr. Watson reports:
Two of his teachers, former Vice Principal..
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Rev. Wright also said Barky was “steeped in Islam” when they first met.
Haven’t been watching the news today.
Has Obama given a speech apologizing to the 9/11 terrorists yet?
Obama is more Muslim than anything else.
Daniel Pipes is a credible source; an authority in my book on any thing muslim.
steeped in Islam
Pickled in it, I’d say.
Barry is also a suicide bomber. His weapon of choice is the US economy.
I find that statement that Obama”Was a Muslim”is a big joke.Obama is still a Muslim dressed in A Christian Cloak to conceal his true identity.Like everything else about Obama this is a Lie.
There can be NO conversions from Islam to Christianity under that religion unless you have get clearence from the Religious thugs that rule that religion.
Apparently Obama has received the OK since he does a lot of anti-Islamic things on a daily basis.
Probably accurate, but I don’t see how it’s particularly relevant.
This period ended 40-some years ago. He was only 10 years old.
I really don’t care what he considered himself or others considered him 30 years ago. I’m a lot more concerned with what he believes (if anything) today.
Personally, I believe in the concept of freedom of religion and separating church from state. However, my beliefs are not widely held, especially in many Muslim countries.
If Dear Leader “was” Muslim and “is” now Christian, then there are many who would view his conversion as an abomination. As such, he can never “admit” or allow any documents to surface that say he “was” Muslim.
This could be part of the secrecy of his birth records, passports, college records, etc. Although, I personally, feel that Dear Leader has much more to hide than just his religion and place of birth.
...had to be reminded/corrected by George Stephanopoulos, "Christian! You're a Christian, remember?"
I saw an interview in which Obama said he is “of the Christian tradition”. Sounds good. But it was an admission that he was not a Christian. Big difference between being a Christian and “of the Christian tradition”. Saying that he was/is a Christian was to distasteful even for this less than honest man.
In much of the Old World, one’s name denotes one’s religion. A Pakistani Christian that I knew whose last name was Peter was offered a job with Pakistan’s national broadcasting agency. But to get the job, he had to convert to Islam and in doing so, take a Muslim name, because Peter was considered a Christian name. Instead, he immigrated to the US and became a Christian pastor.
He still is a Muslim. He would get down on that prayer rug 5 times a day if he could get away with it. Who else would bow to the King of Saudi Arabia?
Further, it is forbidden under pain of death to leave Islam. It is the duty of every faithful Muslim to kill any person who attempts to do so.
Any attempt to claim that “there is no compulsion in Islam” is pure taqiyya since that passage has been abrogated.
So, somehow what 0bambi did when he was 10 is “in the past, not relevant and can’t we all get along”, but Romney’s alleged bullying of a child when he was 10 is “what a terrible person he is, unacceptable in a Presidential candidate, and unbecoming behavior”.
Good for the goose, good for the gander.
This is painfully obvious. Either Obama is a Muslim, or he is a defector, under penalty of death for leaving the faith. And there is zero evidence for the latter. None.
As far as Muslims are concerned, this is 100% certain, not a matter for speculation or guesswork. By every definition, Obama is and remains a Muslim.
This is only Part 2 of a 5 part series.
Having rejected his Muslim birth for Christianity, isn’t he a heretic in Muslims’ eyes, making him eligible for their highest punishment?
Obama’s sperm donor gave up Islam for atheism before Obama was born. He was an atheist communist. Not that it matters - he wasn’t there and doesn’t have much do (idiotic ghost-written book aside) with who Obama is.
His stepfather, Sotero, on the other hand...
No matter where he was born, Obama is NOT an American. He’s an Indonesian. That is the culture that shaped him, that is where his mindset comes from. That is who the idiot voting public elected to into the Presidency. On can see it in Obama’s behavior. Crony “Capitalism?” That is how things are DONE in Indonesia. Political thuggery? Ditto.
I think he is marxist first, but with a pro-muslim bias. Just like the Indonesian commies in the 60s that he was raised among.
Romney’s vicious attack was as a senior, not when he was 10, as you said.
Certainly Obama while living in Indonesia was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather, but I doubt he ever seriously practiced Islam particularly after returning to Hawaii. However, Obama’s claim to Christianity is pretty light. His 20 years in Rev. Wright’s congregation steeped him in radicalism not Christianity and his lack of church attendance while POTUS shows he has no real religious roots save Islam.
Obama is an anti-Colonialist. His sympathies toward Islam and Communism only extend as far as those two movements are able to supply foot soldiers to help him overthrow the established order and replace it with a African-style tribal structure disguised as European-style Democratic Socialism, under which he and his pals can extract regular tribute from their subjects. In his mind, he considers that chief/subject relationship to be a kindness to the subjects, who are suffering under the white man’s capitalist order, and clearly need his superior intellect to rule them.
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