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Former CIA director on SEAL book: "We're not going to accept this kind of behavior"
CBS ^ | September 11, 2012

Posted on 09/11/2012 8:30:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is speaking out for the first time about the Navy SEAL who continues to make headlines with his revealing book about the night Osama bin Laden was killed.

Panetta spoke with "CBS This Morning" co-host, Norah O'Donnell, and while he maintained that Americans have a right to know details about the raid, he came out against the SEAL -- who goes by the pseudonym Mark Owen -- and his book. "There's no question that the American people have a right to know about this operation," Panetta said. "But people who are a part of....

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Obamugabe is upset because HIS LIES about the bin Laden raid, that he "declassified" to Hollywood director Kathyrn Bigelow, are now exposed by the patriot who wrote this book.

Now, hopefully, fewer people will go to the forthcoming Hollywood "Praise Obama" flick, knowing his version of the event was a lie.

1 posted on 09/11/2012 8:30:10 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I doubt that anything will happen to Mr. Owen given that the defense will surely subpoena White House staff to explain how they’d already leaked all of the supposed secrets into the public domain.


2 posted on 09/11/2012 8:32:22 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So Panetta has a problem with a former Navy SEAL speaking out against the lies of B. Hussein?

Blow it out your poop chute, Leon. Its about time the truth became known.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 8:34:12 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Did Leon Panetta explain that he is a Communist, which is why Obama appointed him to head the CIA and the military? Because Panetta can be trusted to work for the enemy?


4 posted on 09/11/2012 8:34:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SoFloFreeper

But Panetta didn’t care about the Messiah spilling the details to the Discovery Channel two weeks after Bin Laden was “killed.”


5 posted on 09/11/2012 8:37:09 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t think Panetta ever criticized Biden publically for telling the world Seal Team 6 did the job.


6 posted on 09/11/2012 8:37:27 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SoFloFreeper

Leon Panetta - “We’re not going to accept this kind of behavior”

From the man who was a loyal Bill Clinton supporter and defended Clinton’s raping and lying.

Panetta has ZERO credibility as an honest, unbiased professional.


7 posted on 09/11/2012 8:39:10 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Off to Siberia with you!

Traitor to the State!


8 posted on 09/11/2012 8:40:38 AM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
It's not illegal, we just don't like the way you pick your nose;


"I think we have to make clear to him and to the American people that we're not going to accept this kind of behavior."

9 posted on 09/11/2012 8:40:48 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Leon is the clean up boy. He cleaned up for Clinton and now he has to clean up for Barry.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 8:40:59 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Cicero
Remember back, when Leon and George Mitchell sandbagged the first Bush and had Bush raise taxes against his 'no new tax' pledge.

I have no respect for Panetta, at all.

11 posted on 09/11/2012 8:46:20 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: MeganC

Plus wasn’t it intellectual giant Joe Biden who opened his mouth about it being ST6 who offed OBL which shortly thereafter resulted in their deaths when their chopper was hit? That sounds like treason of the worst kind to me.


12 posted on 09/11/2012 8:46:33 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: bmwcyle

>> Leon is the clean up boy.

“Piss boy, oh piss boy...” [Apologies to Mel Brooks]


13 posted on 09/11/2012 8:47:21 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: bmwcyle

No doubt he idolized Daniel Ellsberg.


14 posted on 09/11/2012 8:47:42 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Cicero

Pannetta is also a tinfoil-hat saucer-chaser who said in an interview on SyFy that the US Goverment needs to “stop lying about Roswell and Kecksburg.”


15 posted on 09/11/2012 8:48:06 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s a wonderful thing when 0dumbo can lie about classified material operations without fear of being exposed until decades later.


16 posted on 09/11/2012 8:48:06 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: MeganC

Something will happen to him. You’re assuming the obama and his minions will abide by the law, something that they have utter contempt for, as proven by past actions.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 8:51:10 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: MeganC
I doubt that anything will happen to Mr. Owen given that the defense will surely subpoena White House staff to explain how they’d already leaked all of the supposed secrets into the public domain.

Problem with that is that, under National Security law, the material still remains classified even though everybody now knows about it, and it will remain classified until it is formally stamped "declassified" by some reviewing authority.

So legally, it's not in the public domain (even though it is, on a de facto basis).

This SEAL is in serious trouble if DoD decides to risk the PR backlash and prosecute him.

18 posted on 09/11/2012 8:52:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SoFloFreeper

May, 2011. Obama shoots off mouth, tempted to award self Medal of Honor:

http://live.wsj.com/video/president-obama-full-speech-on-bin-
laden-killing/B8F0786A-37F2-49A9-B9FB-8E7064177B0C.html#!B8F0786A-37F2-49A9-B9FB-8E7064177B0C

August, 2011. SEAL helicopter targeted and shot down:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/helicopter-shot-25-navy-seals-dead-crash-afghanistan/story?id=14245387#.UE9ac7KPUXs

If the guys who fought and died can’t talk about it, and then paid for it with their lives later because the CinCh who would have us believe that he practically led the mission—when in fact he had to be browbeaten to authorize it—did talk about it, then it’s time to replace the CinCh.

If we don’t replace Obama then sometime in the near future, along with the SEAL we’re punished for expressing our opinions here and FR is shut down as “subversive” or a “threat to national security” or whatever euphemism Panetta & Co. believe they can make stick. And you can take that to the bank.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 8:53:03 AM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Panetta (another one of Bubba’s boys) is upset because his master, Hussein 0bama, can’t spin the raid his way if the real facts are out there.


20 posted on 09/11/2012 8:54:32 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“...Except when it comes from the West Wing of the White House.”

Ooopsie!


21 posted on 09/11/2012 8:54:32 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Of course the American people have a right to the truth, so long as we can spin it into a lie. How dare someone tell them the way it really happened!


22 posted on 09/11/2012 8:59:21 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SoFloFreeper
The book is interesting but I don't see a lot of things in it that would be classified. Most everything in it is known through open sources already.

The only part that seems odd to me is that there weren't any provisions at all to take Osama bin Laden prisoner. From this book it is clear that the Seal teams were free to shoot first and ask questions later. While some of the other men in the compound were armed or could reach loaded weapons easily, bin Laden wasn't armed and could have been overpowered easily and snatched. I realize that there were political downsides to taking him alive but think of all the intelligence information we could have beaten out of him and the moral power we could have held over the al Qaeda network by capturing him a meekly as a lamb.

I have had some experience with SEALs in the past, not all favorable. They really are "armed sailors" which is not always a good thing. The overall impression is that they bashed around the compound, blasting holes in things with explosives and shooting anybody who gave or might have given resistance. Not a subtle, stealthy commando attack as much as a noisy raid with an emphasis on killing bin Laden, not capturing him.

23 posted on 09/11/2012 9:00:46 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"We're not going to accept this kind of behavior"

But Daniel Ellsberg was "freedom of speech", right Leon?

24 posted on 09/11/2012 9:01:38 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Chainmail
I don't think the issue is classification as much it is a nondisclosure agreement he signed at some point. Even civilians returning from Iraq and Afghanistan must sign a similar agreement during redeployment debriefings.
25 posted on 09/11/2012 9:07:49 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

...it is an amazing book. These guys are truly the best.


26 posted on 09/11/2012 9:11:03 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: SoFloFreeper

Correct me if I am wrong but the biggest difference in accounts I noticed is the SEAL said usama was shot first in the hallway. So the accounts are different but I am not convinced the admin version exists because of any particular agenda. It sounds like the military debrief was flawed and now they are embarrased at their mistakes - not lies.


27 posted on 09/11/2012 9:14:28 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Chainmail

I have to believe that, with at least several weeks having passed now since the book came out, and at least several high-level 0bama people commenting on it to the effect that “...he [the author] might be in trouble...” with no actual follow up, there is nothing in it for which they feel that any charges will stick for a court win.

The continued saber rattling is just to make a point that only 0bama will decide when to release this type of “classified” info, and he is ticked off that someone is making money at the same game, IMHO.


28 posted on 09/11/2012 9:15:54 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: plain talk

I’m not sure that you’ve got the right explanation. I haven’t read the book, so I am just basing this on what I’ve read about the book.

The writer claims that the mission was a kill mission from the start. That was the goal, and that the administration tried to claim that the mission was to take him alive if possible. That’s the difference. If they found him sound asleep in his bed, they would have put a bullet in his head. They wouldn’t have arrested him and tried to bring him to the USA. Obama tried to soften the account.


29 posted on 09/11/2012 9:25:57 AM PDT by Eva
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To: SoFloFreeper

Look up the book, “Lone Survivor.”

No one in the Pentagon threw a fit when that was published.

I’ve read both books now. If anyone can explain how one is worse than the other for security then I’m all ears.

Then go read the several dozen other SEAL books written by SEALs.

What’s the big deal? Obama. That’s it.


30 posted on 09/11/2012 9:28:42 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Eva

“The writer claims that the mission was a kill mission from the start.”

He says, in the book, the opposite of what you’ve written. I read the book.


31 posted on 09/11/2012 9:31:11 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Chainmail
Someone used the right word...The book was tactical....And tactical is job specific...

Shoot first...of course....No one knew who he was until after he was croaked".

Remember Saddam announcing...."Wait...I am the Great Saddam"....Great my a**. "The President sends his regards".

Well, this wasn't the same situation...This was no hole in the ground...This was a fort with armed guards.

His story really gave me a sense of the goodness and love of country of these warriors.

32 posted on 09/11/2012 9:38:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoFloFreeper

Panetta, we are sick of paying through the nose for a government that hides the truth from its employers, the taxpayers. We would be better off having this oppressive behemoth off our necks and out of our pockets. Every state would be able to run its territory better than this inept, blind, greedy federal government.


33 posted on 09/11/2012 9:38:45 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Chainmail
"...Not a subtle, stealthy commando attack as much as a noisy raid with an emphasis on killing bin Laden..."

Hey. You talk about that like it's a bad thing.

Seriously, though, I would think that once those bullets began coming through the door the SEALS were trying to break down, any stealthy operation was DEFINITELY out of the question then, never mind having an unannounced helicopter come crashing down outside the door.

That old saying about "Once the firing begins..." is probably spot on here.

34 posted on 09/11/2012 9:39:45 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Odd. I couldn't find any articles about Leon Panetta demanding that Jon Corzine be prosecuted for theft and fraud, or that Bill Clinton be prosecuted for perjury, obstruction of justice and witness tampering.

Perhaps Panetta believes that the laws only apply to the peasantry...

35 posted on 09/11/2012 9:40:29 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Noamie
It's the first statement he made in the interview. It was NOT a kill mission, but IMOW,(unless Osama was nekked, he was going to wind up dead).

We heard loud and clear....everyone in the compound was a potential suicide martyr wired and or armed.

36 posted on 09/11/2012 9:44:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Chainmail

“The only part that seems odd to me is that there weren’t any provisions at all to take Osama bin Laden prisoner.”

Says who?

I recommend a re-read of the book. That they didn’t take any chances with him isn’t surprising. OBL got shot in the head in a dark hallway before he was positively ID’d.

I’m surprised by all of the comments claiming to “know” that the senior DEVGRU members were keen on a straight-up assassination mission of the most valuable intel target in the world.

OBL got shot because he was a coward. He just wasn’t a big enough coward to keep himself alive.


37 posted on 09/11/2012 9:50:27 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: SoFloFreeper
"We're not going to accept this kind of behavior"

Perhaps the CIA should be asking this of their boss.

38 posted on 09/11/2012 9:51:42 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Eva

It was not a kill mission. The objective was to capture.

However, they were engaged by enemy fire upon entering the compound, and every male they encountered along the way was armed.

Bin Laden peaked his head out of a door way and was instantly shot. The SEAL who wrote the books says that he looked different than they expected. He had died his beard black.

They weren’t there to kill him, but they weren’t there to get killed, either. At the end of the day, they are trained killers, not cops. So it is no surprise that UBL wasn’t going to be arrested unless he surrendered.


39 posted on 09/11/2012 9:54:32 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I was sickened by the way that CBS handled the whole story (not that it was unexpected). CBS handled the story as someone who had done something wrong and the question was “what was going to be the consequences of his wrong-doing”? “How would the government respond?”. There was NO mention of the fact that the White House had been leaking classified information like a sieve, and that it was practically co-producer of a Hollywood Film to boost Obama’s ratings. There was NO mention of that.

If the tables were turned, and Bush were still in office when this happened, and the Bush White House had been leaking classified information about the raid, and participated with Hollywood (like THAT would have happened) on a premier movie, and a Seal member had come out with a book like this, the CBS story would have been about the courageous whistle-blower and how the evil Bush administration was persecuting him.

What a corrupt main-stream media we live with.


40 posted on 09/11/2012 9:56:40 AM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve got my copy so I can compare it with the redacted copy that is published by “Leon’s” staff

What, no redacted copy?

Hmmm

Maybe all the real “grave damage” to US security was already done by BigMouth Tom Donilon in the NYT, and in the stacks of CIA docs obamugabe’s handlers gave the Hollywood filmmakers for their puff piece on big brave Puff Daddy, eh Leon?


41 posted on 09/11/2012 9:57:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Cicero

Never forget all the rat-faced US Senators voted 100 to 0 to confirm Commie Leon Panetta as DOD Chief!


42 posted on 09/11/2012 9:58:16 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: AaronInCarolina

In my above comments, I meant the way that CBS handled the story this morning on the CBS Morning Show.


43 posted on 09/11/2012 9:59:42 AM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: NRA1995

Weren’t several members of Seal Team Six killed in a helicopter crash a few months after the raid?

this was after they were identified by Obamma et al.


44 posted on 09/11/2012 10:02:42 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: plain talk

I would argue that the Obamanistas deliberately exaggerated the circumstances in order to change perceptions.

Just last week at the DNC, Obama said it was only 50/50 that Bin Laden was at the compound.

According to the book, the CIA was 100% sure. 100%.

Also, the media kept pushing the narrative about what a “gutsy” call it was to approve the raid. While I agree that it was a bold and aggressive move, it was also a no-brainer. And he apparently hemmed and hawed about it before making a decision.

I am grateful this SEAL set the record straight.


45 posted on 09/11/2012 10:02:42 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Noamie

I told you that I hadn’t read the book, that I only know what I had read on the internet. I guess that I was wrong.


46 posted on 09/11/2012 10:03:42 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

That is not what I read. I read it was a capture or kill. The SEAL went to great pains to explain why he couldn’t be captured. Why would be bother with that? This is based on excerpts and welcome clarifications. I could be mistaken. I just don’t see anything here other than sloppy debriefing and differing accounts. I don’t see a gotcha here


47 posted on 09/11/2012 10:05:13 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Noamie
Maybe you should re-read that part... He is very specific that they knew that by the time they got to the third floor, that was the last place in the compound and the CIA analysis said that this was his residence. The team had very good NVGs and the building was in complete darkness. Their opponent had only the door opening to shoot from - if he'd had a weapon available - while the attackers had a better field of fire down that hall.

The "nails in the coffin" were the bursts of fire into bin Laden's chest even though he was alread well head-shot. Nobody does that if there were any orders to try to take him alive. You'll also note that there wasn't any mention in their preparation of restraints/hoods/cuffs or anyone with real arabic language skills. If you were going to capture a high-profile target like bin Laden, a self-taught member of the SEAL team is not adequate.

It was an assasination mission - which is fine if that's the best thing for our country - but we deserve the truth, not some fairy story from our leaders.

48 posted on 09/11/2012 10:07:24 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Pinheada and the rest of the oblunder admin are acting ridiculously. Puleez...if there were REALLY national secrets at stake in the book, they would have gone to court for a quick injunction against printing it, and gotten the injunction.

Do yourselves a favor and head to your nearest local bookstore and pick up a copy. It’s the American way.


49 posted on 09/11/2012 10:11:28 AM PDT by gotribe
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To: Retired Greyhound

If there was an angle to this to justify lying you probably have it. To obama the important thing is that the operation makes him look good. What you posted makes sense.


50 posted on 09/11/2012 10:23:46 AM PDT by plain talk
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