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Vanity: Advice for nephew who wants to join (Obama's gay) Army
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Posted on 09/11/2012 10:49:38 AM PDT by LonelyCon

My nephew has talked of wanting to join the Army for years, which is why I was especially personally angry when Obama ended DADT and let gays into the military. I knew my nephew would still want to join even though he'd be prey for all types of attacks and be in danger because men can't trust the others in their own units. He's now a senior and still intent on a military future. He has valid arguments: he wants to serve his country and he wants to follow his grandfather's example. I admire that. But some of us in the family (not his parents) are worried that an organization that normalizes and celebrates homosexuality is not an appropriate or safe place for impressionable young men. I want to warn him, but what should I tell him? (Or should I just keep my nose out of it?) Advice - especially from those actively serving now - about conditions would be welcome.


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1 posted on 09/11/2012 10:49:48 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

Get as much training(mechanical) as you can within the 4 years and then GET OUT!


2 posted on 09/11/2012 10:51:08 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: LonelyCon

“Don’t drop the soap.”


3 posted on 09/11/2012 10:52:25 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: LonelyCon

Show him The Leavenworth Ten.


4 posted on 09/11/2012 10:54:03 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: LonelyCon

Tell him to forget the Army and join the Marines.


5 posted on 09/11/2012 10:54:36 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: LonelyCon

By your reasoning, good and patriotic American young men and women should forego the military and just turn it over to the perverts.

How would that help the country?

Your family member is going to have to learn to live in the real world, whether military or civilian. He may be young and impressionable now, but he’s going to have to contend with all types no matter what path he takes.

Don’t let the noise fool you: our military is all business, and no more gay than it has ever been. The only difference is that they can now talk about it.

If he does his job and keeps his nose clean, he’ll be just fine. And he will make you proud.


6 posted on 09/11/2012 10:56:11 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: LonelyCon

News flash: gays have always been in the US military — the only change is that now they be “out” without consequence to their careers/jobs. My time in the US Army was a long time ago during the Cold War and I had one guy in my unit that I suspected but he never caused a problem in that regard. He did get caught smoking weed which caused him to lose his nuclear MOS but he turned out to be a really good unit clerk.


7 posted on 09/11/2012 10:56:14 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: LonelyCon

Do you really think the military is overrun with queers?
Drop down to Ft. Benning if you have a chance. Maybe check out the Infantry Museum. I think you’ll have your answer then.


8 posted on 09/11/2012 10:56:40 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (will do graphics for food...)
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To: LonelyCon

Using the Nazis as an example, the most pro-gay units were also the most pro-Nazi such as the SS and SA.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 10:57:14 AM PDT by fso301
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To: LonelyCon
I highly recommend joining. I was in training before DADT was repealed. There were gays then and everyone knew it. The Army has not been inundated with gays since the repeal.

My only other advice would be to go to college and go ROTC. Being an Officer is preferable. At least that's what my NCO's tell me.

10 posted on 09/11/2012 10:57:55 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: LonelyCon
A friends son has been in 6 years and just reenlisted for 4 more..now he is a Sargent I believe and he has security clearance. He likes it. Still one of the best ways to get good job training and a career outside the military.

The only problem with military life is on younger married folks. His super hottie wife had an affair while he was away deployed and they are now divorced....it was really rough on him.

11 posted on 09/11/2012 10:58:04 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: LonelyCon
...even though he'd be prey for all types of attacks and be in danger because men can't trust the others in their own units.

What you're describing sounds more like a street gang than the Army. Is he not interested in college/ROTC and going in as an officer?

12 posted on 09/11/2012 10:58:24 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: LonelyCon
United States Coast Guard/Aviation/SAR

Not to often one worries about being sent some where to be shot at or blown up...

13 posted on 09/11/2012 10:59:44 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: LonelyCon
Leavenworth-Ten

That kid sitting there? He is my nephew.

14 posted on 09/11/2012 11:00:48 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: LonelyCon

Show him how our military has been treated in the past decade. Show him how the politicians who send him over to whatever country they want will put him down back home, accusing him of war crimes with no proof, while at the same time defending the people he’s fighting against. Show him the ROEs our soldiers are saddled with that force them to fight with both hands tied behind their backs. Show him how the military is treated as far as benefits and voting rights.

Please understand that I have nothing but respect for the military, but I must be honest. From what I’m seeing nowadays, the military is viewed more as a political pawn and a social experiment, rather than the defenders of our nation. If your nephew is going in out of a desire to serve and protect his country, I fear he is going to be very disappointed.


15 posted on 09/11/2012 11:02:10 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: LonelyCon

Get used to it, Mitt Romney is much more radical on homosexualizing the military, he was against DADT almost 20 years ago, he found it anti-gay.


16 posted on 09/11/2012 11:03:01 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: thefactor; DTogo

ROTC/Officer would be nice, but, unfortunately, he’s just not up to college level with grades and stuff.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 11:03:25 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

But some of us in the family (not his parents) are worried that an organization that normalizes and celebrates homosexuality is not an appropriate or safe place for impressionable young men.

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Look. The same argument can be made about going to College. Or joining the workforce.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 11:04:46 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: LonelyCon

Have him take the ASVAB (military) Test- find out the “careers” MOS he would be eligible for. Could help decide future


19 posted on 09/11/2012 11:07:48 AM PDT by capt B
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Gays should be the least of our worries about the US Military.

The biggest problem is that the Pentagon has become a cesspool for political hacks that operate in CYA mode full-time. They never hesitate to throw a good Airman/Salior/Soldier/Marine under the bus in order to appease the Muslim world.

I would hesitate to recommend military service to any family member under the current conditions, especially with a Marxist in charge. He and his advisers believe in a different mission for the military. Our service members are merely sacrificial lambs. And they use the military as a test lab for their social experiments. Phooey on them.


20 posted on 09/11/2012 11:08:23 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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