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It's the Republican Party, Stupid
Tea Party Tribune ^ | 2012-09-11 11:05:51 | mrcurmudgeon

Posted on 09/11/2012 11:19:55 AM PDT by morethanright

By Mr. Curmudgeon:

Republican talk radio is not happy with GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney's performance. In particular, Laura Ingraham. And like most Republican Party boosters, she chalks it up to Romney's campaign advisers.

"If you can't beat Barack Obama with this record, then shut down the party. Shut it down. Start new with new people, because this is a gimme election, or at least it should be.

"I keep going back to the millions and millions of dollars that are paid to these political consultants. Election after election, we hire people who've lost previous campaigns, who've run campaigns that have failed, who have message campaigns where the message fell flat, and they keep getting re-hired.

"If you're Mitt Romney, with all of your expertise, and all of your knowledge about how the economy works, and you're in this, and you have one shot ...  Man, this is going to be the first line of your obituary - you won or you lost. It's all on the line for the country and it's all on the line for you."

Ingraham is too kind. It's easy to blame the help. It's a lot harder to blame the candidate. Back in the day, "message campaigns" emanated from candidates and not consultants. Lincoln hated slavery; Reagan hated the despotism of Marxism. Both of these ideas were unpopular with a number of Americans in their day.

Meanwhile, radio host Mark Levin is equally frustrated. "I should not have to play clips of Milton Friedman for Mitt Romney to explain his problem with his position on minimum wage. I should not have to argue with Mitt Romney's appointed hacks to explain the problem with RomneyCare. I shouldn't have to explain to Mitt Romney why he shouldn't feel guilty about his wealth and that he can explain to the American people more broadly why we want wealth creation in this country.

"Because only that way can we lower unemployment. Only that way can we save the housing market. Only that way, through capitalism, wealth creation, productivity, can the American dream be returned.

"Now if I can explain this in literally 3 minutes, why can't he?"

Reacting to MSNBC host Chris Matthew's claim that an Obama win this November means the end of conservatism, radio host Rush Limbaugh said, "Nope, if Obama wins, it's the end of the Republican Party. There's going to be a third party that's going to be orientated towards conservatism - or Rand Paul thinks libertarianism.

"If Obama wins, the Republican Party will try to maneuver things so conservatives get blamed. The only problem is right now, Romney is not running a conservative campaign."

The Democratic Party once had its conservative, moderate and liberal wings. That's all over. Obama's Saul Alinsky influence has transformed it into a leftist, authoritarian movement. The collectivist rants televised from their convention stage last week proved the point.

The Republican National Convention was equally disappointing. Speaker after speaker insisted that the Republican Party does not exist to bury Progressivism but to save it.

America's major political parties are two wings, left and center, of the same political ideology - Progressivism. It's a misnomer, therefore, to say the rise of a constitutional, small-government party represents a third player. In reality, it would restore America's traditional two-party system.

That means the Tea Party has two paths standing before it: If Romney wins, it must re-double its efforts to change the GOP by unseating Progressive-leaning Republicans in the House and Senate. These two bodies are where GOP candidates for president hail from. Second, if Romney loses, rendering the Republican Party irrelevant, networking with libertarian and other liberty-centered groups should begin in earnest, with an eye toward the establishment of a small-government political party.

It's time Republican talk-radio hosts stop blaming political consultants. If Republican candidates are devoid of conservative ideas, it's because the party hierarchy discourages them. The problem IS the Republican Party.

Change it or dump it.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: romney; teapartytribune

1 posted on 09/11/2012 11:20:01 AM PDT by morethanright
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To: morethanright

Enough with this pant-wetting!!


2 posted on 09/11/2012 11:23:02 AM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are much more interesting than theories" - Dr No by Ian Fleming)
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To: morethanright

I say, these scurrilous attacks on Mr. Romley by these insipid “Tea Party” types must stop!

I like the cut of this Romley fellow’s jib. We need more men like him manning the yacht of state.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 11:27:14 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Perdogg

The debate will make or break Mitt. At first the two campaigns were total opposites and today you can’t tell them apart. That is why Romney is having hard time connecting.


4 posted on 09/11/2012 11:28:13 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: morethanright
Ingrham is an Establishment media chick who still thinks the Establishment media is accurate and objective. She is one of those "conservatives" who reads the headlines and thinks they are accurate and honest.

She lives in a media bubble world totally unaware that her perceptions are carefully manipulated by a Democrat directed media machine. Rather then just regurgitate what the media tells her to think she might want to look into the internals of the polls she is so scared of.

5 posted on 09/11/2012 11:28:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Orange1998

horseshat. You can tell them apart.


6 posted on 09/11/2012 11:30:27 AM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are much more interesting than theories" - Dr No by Ian Fleming)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Really odd how the most arrogantly certain of their religious infallibility Freepers are the ones around here most feverishly working to reelect a pro Gay Marriage, pro Taxpayer funded Abortion on demand up to birth candidate like 0bama.


7 posted on 09/11/2012 11:30:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: morethanright

It is the libertarian/liberal wing of the GOP that is killing us.

Mitt is very left/libertarian on social issues and immigration.

Yet this writer says that we need more of their ruin if Romney loses. What we need is conservatism.


8 posted on 09/11/2012 11:31:48 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Romney or Obama will be the next President.

When you spend all your time working feverishly to trash Romney, you accomplish one thing, help re-elect Obama.

One day you will be called by God to explain why you worked so desperately to re-elect a Pro gay marriage, pro tax payer funded Abortion on demand up to birth candidate like Obama.

You will no longer be able to claim to God you did not know what your evil you were doing.

9 posted on 09/11/2012 11:33:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ansel12

Romney or Obama will be the next President.

When you spend all your time working feverishly to trash Romney, you accomplish one thing, help re-elect Obama.

One day you will be called by God to explain why you worked so desperately to re-elect a Pro gay marriage, pro tax payer funded Abortion on demand up to birth candidate like Obama.

You will no longer be able to claim to God you did not know what your evil you were doing.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 11:34:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

What are you talking about? I find these attacks on Mr. Romley to be a scandalous as you do! I’ll smoke a pipe with the good Mr. Romley anytime he likes!


11 posted on 09/11/2012 11:35:10 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
You just go ahead and cling to your sanctimonious self righteousness then. You will get to explain yourself to God one day.

At least now you will no longer be able to claim ignorance of what your are doing.

12 posted on 09/11/2012 11:42:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Really odd how the most arrogantly certain of their religious infallibility Freepers are the ones around here most feverishly working to reelect a pro Gay Marriage, pro Taxpayer funded Abortion on demand up to birth candidate like 0bama.

Or the rabid attack dogs feverishly working to elect a pro Gay Marriage, pro Taxpayer funded Abortion on demand up to birth candidate like Romney, while attacking Conservative Christians and the TEA Party - just like their political savior did.

The fact remains - no matter who "Wins" in November - we will have a Leftist Government and a Leftist leader at the helm as the GOP has dragged the nation even more solidly to the Left.

13 posted on 09/11/2012 11:42:56 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: morethanright
It's the Republican Party, Stupid

More like:

It's the Republican Stupid Party

14 posted on 09/11/2012 11:46:35 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1331 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: MNJohnnie

God is more interested in our souls than our political lives.

I’m not worried about not voting for the anti-Christian cult leader, Bishop Mitt Romney.

Your boring troll-like insult/attack posts, and this effort to tell Christians that they will go to hell for not voting for Bishop Romney, is mocking God and Christianity and personalizing your attacks in a very unchristian manner, when you really shouldn’t be making any personal attacks at all, of any kind.

You should make an effort to find some way of making your posts more relevant to individual threads, and to individual posts.

You can serve Romney, in a more calm, civilized manner.


15 posted on 09/11/2012 11:47:45 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: morethanright
"The problem IS the Republican Party."

I came to that conclusion 14 years ago. I am glad to see that more and more people are coming to the same conclusion. I just wonder if I will live long enough to see a new "Constitutionally Conservative" party emerge?

16 posted on 09/11/2012 11:49:57 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: MNJohnnie
I say, old man, you're reading me all wrong! In fact, just the other day, at a fundraiser for Mr. Romley's campaign, Mitt and I were sitting backstage sipping on some fine Burgundian chianti and puffing some Havanas, and I looked him right in the eye, and I said,

"Mitt old fellow, I like the cut of your jib, and I like the way you're running your campaign. But I daresay that I have one criticism. You have simply got to stop throwing out the read meat to these "social conservatives." Don't you realise what those people are like? You don't want somebody thinking you sound like one of them, now do you? What would your father say? If he were here today, and if my dear father were as well, George would be filiping dear old dad up one side and down the other about how dreadfully pedestrian his son has become while they rested between tees. Old bean, so simply must stop debasing yourself by trying to appeal to those people. After all, it's not like you need to. Where do you think they'll go?"

Mitt was quite taken by my arguments, though the weeks to come will show whether he codgered to what I was saying.

17 posted on 09/11/2012 11:50:14 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: INVAR

Nothing in life is ever 100% perfect. Screaming hysterically for GOP perfection is just a tool used by those “conservatives” who want to rationalize their political cowardice and laziness as “principal”.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 11:50:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; ansel12

My my my, really don’t like having the light of truth shined on your actions do you.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 11:53:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie; ansel12

I say, old man, I really admire your dedication to the cause! If you like, I might see if I can swing a ride for you on Mr. Romley’s private jet. I’m sure he’s just dying to hear your ideas for improving his campaign!


20 posted on 09/11/2012 11:55:53 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: ansel12

Excellent advice for everyone.

LLS


21 posted on 09/11/2012 11:59:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: MNJohnnie

That was my point, you don’t shine light, you don’t inform, you merely troll thread to thread, attacking people, angrily lashing out, throwing out insults, and name calling, and sometimes telling them they are going to hell for not supporting Bishop Romney.

You really should try not to post, unless you have something constructive to add or contribute.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 12:02:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: morethanright
Laura Ingraham has jumped the shark this time.

Yes, we all wish Romney were
(a) more conservative,
and (b) better at articulating simple foundational, conservative ideas.

But I thought Laura was smarter than to fall for the obvious disinformation campaign spewed by the Democrat/MSM complex immediately after the disastrous Dem convention.

My BS-detector alarm went BOING BOING BOING WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP as soon as those absurdly skewed polls came out. And it really went crazy over the preposterous claims that Obama was now --suddenly-- out-fund-raising Romney.

Now that we're starting to get a little bit clarity on those biased poll numbers (and to pay attention to the one number that was HUGELY significant ... Romney's 17 point lead amongst independent voters), Laura should apologize for so eagerly seizing the role of Debbie Downer.

23 posted on 09/11/2012 12:12:48 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; ansel12
Nothing in life but God is perfect.

Spending all your time, as you do, screaming at your political allies for being only 85% pure instead of fighting the side that is 100% evil is NOT acting in a spirit of righteousness.

You can rationalize your active propagandizing for evil anyway you like, God knows the truth.

24 posted on 09/11/2012 12:14:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Nothing in life is ever 100% perfect. Screaming hysterically for GOP perfection is just a tool used by those “conservatives” who want to rationalize their political cowardice and laziness as “principal”.

Translation: if you do not surrender and compromise your faith, and your principles and give into sin and those who promote sin - then you have no principles and are lazy.

Actually, thanks to you and your insult-prone lackeys for Romney - you've motivated us out of our so-called laziness, and now we're motivated to actually WORK TO REMIND CHRISTIANS and those of faith and Conservative principles of Romney's record and their duty to stand for Righteousness and not give into supporting someone who stands for what is anathema to their foundations.

25 posted on 09/11/2012 12:15:53 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Perdogg

Really? The last few weeks Romney has agreed with some of Obama programs. Give it a year and the only difference will be Romney support for Israel.


26 posted on 09/11/2012 12:16:34 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: MNJohnnie

I think we can conclude that you have become one of those freepers who just give up on being rational or relevant, and merely show up to vent, to release emotional anger in post after post.


27 posted on 09/11/2012 12:18:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: INVAR

If you object to having the political stupidity of your actions pointed out to you, stop acting stupidly.


28 posted on 09/11/2012 12:18:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yes, we know. You Romney lackeys keep lashing out with the insults to remind us that if we refuse to vote for Romney and praise the GOP-e - then we are stupid and every other epithet and insult you people can dig up from your schoolyard lunch pails.

But I have to thank you and your playground Romneybullies for the impetus to work harder to remind Christians where their first duty lies - and it’s not to your political savior.


29 posted on 09/11/2012 12:23:22 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: morethanright

If you cannot orginze enough people to take the GOP away from the “progressives” you are never going to do the much harder work of orginzing a viable “pure” 3rd party.

This article is a prime example of everything that is wrong in the modern “conservative” movement.

People want to sit on their asses and demand some mythical perfect ideological pure party be manufactured for them. They use this demand for an impossible level of “political purity” to rationalize their political cowardice and inaction


30 posted on 09/11/2012 12:24:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: morethanright

Its a mystery to me how/why the republicans would select the inventor of Romney-care to run against the inventor of Obama-care!!!..?..... The logic of this escapes me..

UNLESS most republicans are deep down democrats...


31 posted on 09/11/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: MNJohnnie; ansel12

I say, old bean, a tad excitable aren’t you?

When you meet Mitt, please don’t bear hug. I would be terribly embarrassed, and it would be rather gauche besides.


32 posted on 09/11/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: MNJohnnie

If you think your relationship with God depends on you voting for a Mormon Bishop and helping Romney ascend to becoming a God himself, then you have more to tell us than you are sharing.


33 posted on 09/11/2012 12:26:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: Orange1998

>Romney has agreed with some of Obama programs.

Like what?


34 posted on 09/11/2012 12:29:20 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are much more interesting than theories" - Dr No by Ian Fleming)
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To: ansel12

I second that. Calling judgement of others, interesting to see her judgement day.


35 posted on 09/11/2012 12:29:39 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: MNJohnnie

What I find fault with her about is that she thinks the campaign people hang on every word she says.

Last time, when the Romney people improved something(can’t remember now what it was) that coincidentally fit with her criticism, she said next day on her show, “Well at least someone is listening.”

Um Laura, I doubt that you have that much POWER.

I’ve met her..a nice person she is not.
I was on her show though during Chick-Fil-A week for buying lunches for troops over the phone. My five minutes.. but when I played it back was horrified at how geeky my voice sounded.


36 posted on 09/11/2012 12:31:33 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (I don't have a tagline...too depressed.)
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To: INVAR

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/11/mark_levin_if_romney_becomes_another_bush_or_ford_hes_got_to_go.html

Mark Levin speaks for us Invar.


37 posted on 09/11/2012 12:33:09 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (I don't have a tagline...too depressed.)
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To: INVAR

Hard truth. Nothing in life is perfect.

Spending all your time whining about your supposed political allies not being flawless enough for you does nothing to help win elections and advance your political agenda.

It is past time for “conservatives” to get off their asses and get in the political game rather then sitting around whining for some never to be realized “perfect” party to be handed to them


38 posted on 09/11/2012 12:33:09 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; ansel12

Well you keep rationalizing your political cowardice and in action as “principal”. God knows the truth.


39 posted on 09/11/2012 12:37:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Perdogg

Oh Geezzzz don’t get me started. May I remind you of the Meet the Press interview.


40 posted on 09/11/2012 12:38:11 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

I am done talking politics on FR until after November 7. Its a shame seeing FR take each other apart.

SEE YA! GO ROMNEY!! (our only choice).


41 posted on 09/11/2012 12:42:51 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998
Ah geezzzzz here you go........Here and Here.

By the way, if you come across a a hard word, let me know I will help.
42 posted on 09/11/2012 12:56:40 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are much more interesting than theories" - Dr No by Ian Fleming)
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To: MNJohnnie
Hard truth. Nothing in life is perfect.

Just because this world is broken and full of sin, does not mean we compromise our faith and principles to get along with the sin and brokenness. And that's what you and your pals are demanding we do:

"Life's not perfect so support our guy - even though he has a record of promoting and supporting abominations and sin as government policy!"

It's not gonna happen. You've given us the impetus to work harder to reach biblical Christians about standing on their faith, convictions and foundational principles, regardless of what this world demands they do.

Spending all your time whining about your supposed political allies not being flawless enough for you does nothing to help win elections and advance your political agenda.

The GOP-e cannot win elections and all they advance is Liberalism.

You and your Ruling Class Establishment drones can blame stalwart Christian Conservatives for Romney's loss to Obama to your heart's content. You're gonna do it anyway - heck, you already are! Romney made it clear - especially Tuesday night at the RNC - that grassroots TEA Party Conservatives are now politically irrelevant in the GOP.

It is past time for “conservatives” to get off their asses and get in the political game rather then sitting around whining for some never to be realized “perfect” party to be handed to them

We are. We're voting for someone other than the GOP-e establishment choice - and possibly vote third party and or create a new party. That Romney and the Ruling Class in the GOP do not want Christian Conservatives is manifest. So we will vote and go elsewhere.

All your empty threats about us handing the victory to Obama, we laugh at. The Ruling Class handed Obama the victory the moment they thrust Romney as their choice and worked so hard to destroy every Conservative in the game.

This world isn't perfect. But Jesus said for us to BE perfect (Matthew 5:48), and that means we do not compromise by supporting someone who supports abominations and sin and choose him to be our ruler and represent us.

Romney does not represent us and by all appearances of evil, will not represent us after he was elected. So we will not vote for him.

43 posted on 09/11/2012 1:15:53 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: MNJohnnie; ansel12

Don’t look at me, ansel, I’m still trying to figure out where this “page and a half of text” that he believes he sent to me is at...


44 posted on 09/11/2012 1:23:03 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: morethanright

I just do not get all the hemming and hawing. Romeny is the candidate we thought he was before, during and after the primary. He is a slick politician who is unable to articulate a conservative message. But he is our slick politician who is unable to atriculate a conservative message and we have to do what we can to throw him over the line. And throw him over the finish line we can as the opponent in this election is such a failure that even a blank canvas RINO like Mitt could beat him.

I am bothered by all these clowns who forced this guy on us (and I am not talking about Rush or Levin) and are now eager to abandon him the second that the race ends up being close or it looks like some (gulp) work might be involved. News flash to the intelligencia in the Republican E and their supporters, every time you run a blank canvas, believe in nothing RINO who wants to run a “competent manager” campaign that tries to appeal to “moderates” and apologive for conservatism you will ALWAYS end up with either an eek out victory (see Florida 2000) or a smashing defeat (see McLame 2008). But, you run a campaign on ideas where you just do not give a damn what the MSM prints about you and you end up in Scott Walker land blowing the MSM to dust and putting liberals into apopletic land.

On another note, isn’t it funny how Paul Ryan has dissapeared from this race? I do not mean that the Romney campaign is hiding him but rather that the MSM is trying their best to. Why? Because Ryan is about ideas and talking about issues. The MSM knows full well that it is easier to paint whatever picture they need to on blank slate Romney in order for Obama to win. Issues are the enemy of the Obama campaign.

As for the idea of a third party, I am not sure it needs to go that far. Why not have a pre-primary so that we conservatives can pick one candidate to line up behind. In my opinion this last primary season allowed the Republican E to divide and conquer the conservatives in the race. On another note, am I the only one developing a hatred for Karl Rove?


45 posted on 09/11/2012 1:27:35 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

That is a great suggestion - but as long as the GOP allows open primaries, and Democrats can choose our nominee for national office - then there’s no possibility for Conservatism to have a voice in the Republican party.

But then that is what Tuesday night at the RNC convention established as permanent policy: the political irrelevance of Conservatism in the GOP.

Romney and the GOP-e have already done more damage to Conservatives and the Conservative ideology than anything Obama has done in his entire time in office.


46 posted on 09/11/2012 1:49:34 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: morethanright

One step at a time: First get rid of the Obama administration this November - THEN deal with the too-liberal Republican party. First things first.

If we don’t vote Hussein out this November we are sunk, and we won’t vote him out of office sitting at home or bickering about positions left or right in the Republican party!

United we stand.


47 posted on 09/11/2012 3:07:37 PM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: ansel12; MNJohnnie; INVAR; sickoflibs
God is more interested in our souls than our political lives.

I’m not worried about not voting for the anti-Christian cult leader, Bishop Mitt Romney.

i dare say, theres only ONE question that'll matter when i am allowed to face the Lord...and it aint going to involve mittens or lowly presidential politics...

in that moment I can simply proclaim my King, Lord Jesus...

as a matter of fact, i think I'll just go ahead and write-in His name come november, being as though we seem to be voting for king these days...

48 posted on 09/11/2012 3:13:02 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: MNJohnnie
only 85% pure

pure what ??? progressive statist, sure i can agree to that...

we havent had a candidate anywhere close to even 50% in my voting life...

49 posted on 09/11/2012 3:15:49 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: RoadTest
One step at a time: First get rid of the Obama administration this November - THEN deal with the too-liberal Republican party. First things first.

Look, I know many of you are scared to death of Obama - but why is electing a politician to the top spot, the first (and sometimes only) solution to the threat of where we have arrived as a former Republic?

When exactly (as Gilbo_3 alluded) did we accept monarchy as our form of government? Why is the mentality of so many become "We must replace their evil king with our guy!" as the first step to saving our nation?

Obama is a reflection of where our culture has arrived. He is the sum of where we have let the nation's culture fall into. Slowing down or even stopping where we are now at should not rest in the hope of electing a man with a nearly-identical record to Obama, (or any man for that matter) to the top spot.

If we spent half the energy used to attack others because they refuse to violate their faith and principles, and put that towards shaming the culture into seeing a need for repentance and putting God first - Our Lord might give the leaders we need, instead of the ones we deserve.

God has given us over to evil, and a reprobate mind as a culture - and the mindset of so many looking to Romney as some kind of salvation - makes the warning of scripture that even God's Elect could be deceived... prescient and even more troubling.

50 posted on 09/11/2012 4:04:19 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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