Posted on 09/11/2012 12:56:41 PM PDT by Arthurio
On the days of September 8th and 9th, Gravis Marketing, a non-partisan research company, and Capitol Correspondent conducted a survey of 2,238 likely voters in the state of Virginia. The survey covered the same questions as the August survey, which comprised questions regarding the presidential election, Virginias senate race, the direction of the United States, and the effect of a libertarian candidate on Romney and Obama. Overall, from August to the most recent survey, Obamas 44% to 40% lead has turned into a Romney lead of 49% to 44% in the most recent poll. Interestingly, Obama didnt lose votes, rather Romney gained previously unsure voters or voters that previously planned on voting for a different candidate.
Who is Ahead in the Senate?
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
Substantial poll.
Don’t believe those other crap polls. Romney is ahead.
Bump
Looking good.
ping
Rush was talking about the polls today, some analyst actually went in and rebalanced all the polls out there to the correct R/D/I projected turnout models and came up with a 5% - 8% Romney lead in every polls.
Allen leads Kaine 48-43!
We’re winning: Good poll!
We’re loosing: Bad poll!
Wow, this news couldn’t come at a better time. Reading this poll makes me think about how this election when its all said and done may not be close at all. We’re seeing a swing of at least 8 points towards the GOP from the Democrats in most states we are tracking. That’s more than enough to put Romney Ryan over the top.
Good news in VA. On the other hand, this same polling company has 0 ahead in Ohio by 4.
Allen ahead of Tim Kane in the Senate race by 5 points. A turnaround from August. Scroll down at the site to see the Senate race.
One fact that adds validity to this result is that the swing state polling has consistently showed a near tie while the national polling gave Barry a sizeable bump.
We-can-come-in-off-the-ledge bump
Undecideds broke 100% for Romney
In the end, it is going to come down to turnout on Election Day, and the drive behind early voting.
Nothing is a done deal yet. Some could still hinge on the outcome of the debates yet to be held. Should Romney do sufficiently well to put Current Occupant into a deepening shadow, even some of the “almost sure” O voters could still flee. Conversely, if Romney pulls a McCain concession on point after point, there is little encouragement, and all the doubts the T.E.A. party had about Romney will crop up in full bloom.
If Romney goes after Obama with even half the thrust he applied in skewering Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich, the debates will be almost over before they are half through.
Polls that are not in line with basic demographic and party affiliation realities are bad polls.
Romney was ahead by 11 points in a NC poll released yesterday. It also shows him getting 30% of the black vote. That’s a bad poll.
Polls which show Romney up double digits with independents but trailing 0 are also bad polls.
Wow. This good news didn’t arrive too quickly. woohoo!!!!
Lets ignore ALL polls until the end of Oct.
Could it be that many of us here in the trenches will not talk to a pollster? That only the idle, loose-lipped folks have the time and inclination to respond?
I hope Allen gets back in the Senate. Romney needs to win Ohio though. Is it possible for Romney to win without Ohio?
>> Were loosing: Bad poll!
We’re misspeling: Bad cat!
>> Lets ignore ALL polls
I agree. Checks and surbs and hunkies too.
Smack down.
I think, IIRC, that this is the company that recently had Romney up by 15 points in Florida.
Can anyone verify?
I talked to a pollster earlier this year during the Republican primaries .... was honest, too. The problem was the way the questions were constructed .... definitely didn’t ask the ones I wanted to answer.
Interestingly, if anyone wants to put their money where their mouth (or opinion) is here, some bookmakers, such as UK outfit Ladbrokes, STILL have Obama strong favorite to win Virginia:
Sounds good to me.
It also shows Romney ahead +3 in Ohio.
Yes, by several scenarios.
>> Could it be that many of us here in the trenches will not talk to a pollster?
I dunno... I keep hoping one will call here. I could use the entertainment. :-)
I hang upon them...one of them was Rasmussen.
Are you certain? NC voted for traditional marriage (blacks supported traditional marriage in a big way in that vote) and the VERY NEXT DAY Obamugabe went on tv to tell everyone he had "evolved" to the point where he now celebrates sodomy.
Blacks in NC, perhaps, felt betrayed.
Only if he wins NC, VA, IA, CO, NV, FL and Wisconsin, and maybe NH. So it's possible but it's like drawing an inside straight in poker.
I voted for Obama in Maryland! |
I voted for Obama in Florida! |
I voted for Obama in the other 55 states! |
Malfunctioning space bar alert: “I hang up on them...”
Let’s not find out.
OK, OK I’m putting my cyanide pill down...
I try, I am better than I was. I read them here now instead of going to the poll sites!
I would love to see those scenarios. Since Romney appears to be doing worse in Michigan and Pennsylvania than Ohio, I cannot see him taking either of those two and losing Ohio. The same holds true for Colorado, Nevada, and (probably) Iowa. What state(s) can he get the eleven electoral votes needed to get 270?
Gravis Florida poll
Mitt Romney 48.0% (48.3%)
Barack Obama 46.7% (45.1%)
Other/Unsure 5.2% (6.6%)
It’s bad for Obama. They are doing it for two reasons. Leftist leanings of course, but secondly they are doing it to create the image of a horserace for “news”. It’s not close. Romney is way ahead. At the ground floor I see it every day. Even as anecdotal as stickers and signs and such - it’s not even remotely close. I think a potato could beat Obama this time around.
What is it with everyone’s spelling these days? I would feel better if the pollster could at least spell the Democrat running for Senate in Virginia correctly. Geez.
Good news/Bad news.
Good news: the 43% for 0bama appears to be a ceiling for him. It’s pretty clear that he has difficulty getting any permanent traction above 43% nationally, and in particular in the battleground states.
Bad news: 43% is also his floor. Which means that 43% of likely voters are stupid enough, corrupt enough, or just plain lazy enough, to vote for the WORST American president in a century no matter what. And in some states such as California, New York and Massachussetts, that number is well over 50%.
I think you could have a video of 0bama simultaneously selling drugs to a 10 year old girl, engaging in a sex act with Reggie Love, while accepting a bribe at midnight in the basement of the Chinese Embassy, and he wouldn’t lose any of that 43%. And that number seems to increase every decade, which does not bode well for the long-term prospects for our country.
Yes, but the judging of polls can be quite definitive now.
1) if it isn’t likely voters, dismiss it.
2) State polls matter more than national polls, particularly swing states.
3) If D’s, R’s and I’s are all above 30%, it’s probably a fair enough sample but, still, watch the breakdown.
4) If incumbents have a favorable rating below 50%, that’s trouble for them. If it’s below 45%, that’s big trouble.
Apply these rules to every poll that comes out and dismiss the rest and you will have a much more accurate idea of the way this election is turning out.
Your right, but its what it is, I won’t backpeddle!
Romney will win Ohio.
I AM WAS


Anybody know if the Washington Post is pushing the macaca issue against Allen? Or are they letting bygones be bygones????
Anybody know if the Washington Post is pushing the macaca issue against Allen? Or are they letting bygones be bygones????
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