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Romney is No Savior, and That's the Point
PJ Media ^ | September 12, 2012 | Sarah Hoyt

Posted on 09/12/2012 5:38:00 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam

...Romney is a decent business manager. He’s a decent man. He likes America. He wants America to like him. He’s not going to actively dismantle our way of life, as will the one now in power. There will be no attacks on freedom of religion, no wild power grabs for the Internet, no executive orders that violate the laws of the land. He will not hanker for more “flexibility” so he can give more to Putin. And — this is petty but important for how the world sees us — he will neither apologize nor bow to foreign leaders.

Is he perfect? Oh, goodness, no. Is he exactly what we need? Probably not. Who is? Do you know the trouble we’ve got ourselves into by trusting presidents for this long? It’s a big hole. No one man can get us out of it. Only we can. And it will take time.

But that’s fine. He won’t be anointed by any gods. There will be no halos and no Greek columns. Instead, he’ll be the elected by the people and the people — the sovereign people of this free land — who are now awake will stand ready to make sure he knows it.

Perhaps we will once more save our democratic republic for another generation. Perhaps we’ll turn the tiller and start the long way back from deep blue statism.

In the end, as someone said, perhaps we’re the ones we’ve been waiting for. No hero will ride to the rescue — we will.

We’re Americans. We don’t need emperors. (If that’s what you want, to quote Romney, “you must vote for the other guy.”) We don’t want lords and masters. We’re free and at last aware that we must work to stay that way.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: romney

1 posted on 09/12/2012 5:38:04 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

>> He’s a decent man.

A decent man is pro-active on Life.


2 posted on 09/12/2012 5:39:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I’m looking for a Mormon on this list (so far no luck)

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

Is Barack Hussein Obama still snubbing Israel and praising the “peace lovers” in his Libya and Egypt?


3 posted on 09/12/2012 5:43:19 AM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: Unam Sanctam

So, you’ve fallen in a hole and broken your leg, when some pedestrian comes along and offers to help get you out of the hole.

And your response is, “Hey, you’re not a licensed EMT! Get out of here!”


4 posted on 09/12/2012 5:48:25 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I have said this multiple times. Both sides look for a President to do this and do that. We need a President who basically does nothing and allows us to do the work.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 5:53:43 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: tsowellfan
Is Barack Hussein Obama still snubbing Israel and praising the “peace lovers” in his Libya and Egypt?

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6 posted on 09/12/2012 5:56:36 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: justice14

The best government is that which governs least, as they used to say. And Calvin Coolidge used to say that it is more important to prevent bad legislation than to pass good legislation.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 5:57:01 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Gene Eric
The problem with the standard statement in the article above is that you don't have to be much of an analyst to go through it and seriously question every single assertion.

That's not good ~ and I don't mean it's not good to go through it and analyze it, but the fact it is so easily deconstructed should have been highly disturbing to everyone.

At the same time this makes it exceedingly difficult for the Obama crowd to mount a campaign against him ~ like what can they say that's critical without admitting to it themselves?

8 posted on 09/12/2012 6:00:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Unam Sanctam
Romney is No Savior, and That's the Point

No... The point is to remove 0bama from office, period.

9 posted on 09/12/2012 6:01:42 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Unam Sanctam

Is there such thing as a savior, apart from Christ? Was Ronald Reagan? Was Churchill? Roosevelt? So, what’s this talk about a savior about,then?


10 posted on 09/12/2012 6:03:03 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

This is the way I look at it -

the economy and financial system WILL CRASH. There is no “saving” it.

Now, who do you want in power when it does? A capitalist with a basic, though flawed, Judeo-Christian based worldview,

or a Marxist Muslim who despises Judeo-Christian culture and seeks its destruction.


11 posted on 09/12/2012 6:04:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: justice14

No. We need a President that will do something and that something is to get us back on track to following the Constitution. We need a President to constantly frame the debate that it is us that does things and not the government. We need a President that will not only constantly state that what the government is currently doing is unConstitutional but also work like hell to stop it from doing unConstitutional acts.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 6:05:29 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: muawiyah

>> like what can they say that’s critical without admitting to it themselves?

Good point.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 6:07:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: 7thson

Which is what I said.


14 posted on 09/12/2012 6:24:37 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14
I have said this multiple times. Both sides look for a President to do this and do that. We need a President who basically does nothing and allows us to do the work.

I'm stealing this for a facebook post. Exactly correct. This is what made Reagan such a good president. He mostly just stayed out of the way.

15 posted on 09/12/2012 6:28:11 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Unam Sanctam

Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.


16 posted on 09/12/2012 6:30:49 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: SunTzuWu; vette6387; bevperl; flat; unkus; gonzo; libertyhoundusnr; Nachum; Free ThinkerNY; bitt; ..

“...The point is to remove Obama from office, period.”

You are absolutely right and I would add that all his goons must be exposed and thrown out of every agency in DC as well and his cohorts voted out of the US House and Senate. The Dictator-in-Chief’s executive orders must be overturned ASAP and his DeathCare repealed. There is a Maxist Liberal RAT plague upon our land, IMO.


17 posted on 09/12/2012 6:31:25 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Oratam

At the same time don’t let your acceptance of mediocrity blind you to what you’re really getting.


18 posted on 09/12/2012 6:33:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Unam Sanctam
"Is he perfect? Oh, goodness, no. Is he exactly what we need? Probably not."

Wow.. That's the bumper sticker we need to win the election.

Romney, he's not what we need, but he's better than the putz we got

We are so doomed..

19 posted on 09/12/2012 6:33:54 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Oratam

There is no perfect choice just as there is no good choice this time. This round is more like, “Vote for the bad choice over the horrendous choice”.


20 posted on 09/12/2012 6:41:23 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: justice14

So you want a President that leaves Obamacare and the financial reform, as well as all the current executive orders in place? That is doing nothing.


21 posted on 09/12/2012 6:43:21 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Ingtar
So you want a President that leaves Obamacare and the financial reform, as well as all the current executive orders in place? That is doing nothing.

As opposed to what? What are the options? Either Obama or Romney will be president on January 20th, 2013.

22 posted on 09/12/2012 6:45:02 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Ingtar

Ugh... are you serious? Do I need to spell everything out? Of course repeal all the government growth Obama has put in place. Which in turn makes government do nothing (or much much less).


23 posted on 09/12/2012 6:52:09 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: dirtboy

I was responding to the sentiment that we want a president who does nothing.


24 posted on 09/12/2012 6:52:50 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: justice14

That is not the definition of “do nothing”.


25 posted on 09/12/2012 6:53:44 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Ingtar

Yep. Basically I wanted Romney to get in the office and actually “do nothing”. I wanted him to sit in the oval office, playing video games. I wanted Ryan to stand in his office and throw darts at a dartboard. That is exactly what I wanted them to do.

Well... I guess that is still doing something according to you. So I apologize.


26 posted on 09/12/2012 6:59:43 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Unam Sanctam
I hear people lamenting that Romney is not a thing like Reagan, that they don’t see anyone in the party who is like Reagan, that what we need is Reagan.

What if each of us worked in the spirit of Ronald Reagan? One thing for sure - the Obama administration and their lapdogs in the media would have a cow.

Sorta like having the enemy surrounded and they don't know who to attack first.

27 posted on 09/12/2012 7:05:23 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: dirtboy
269 each guy. You must win by a clear majority of 270, so anything less doesn't win.

That throws the selection among the three highest to the House. That's when it gets tricky. If by Inauguration day there's been no selection of a President, the sitting Speaker of the House (of the newly elected Congress, not the old Congress) becomes President.

Obviously Conservatives ~ both Socon and TEAParty can work this together to keep both the major party candidates out of the Presidency, and put in someone they want.

You don't have to be a member of the House to be elected Speaker either, so literally ANYONE could become Speaker of the House, and then President.

28 posted on 09/12/2012 7:16:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Obviously Conservatives ~ both Socon and TEAParty can work this together to keep both the major party candidates out of the Presidency, and put in someone they want.

Get a grip. The odds of that happening are extremely remote, and something we would have no control over.

29 posted on 09/12/2012 7:20:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

2 out of 43 ~ not exactly extremely remote!


30 posted on 09/12/2012 7:55:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Uh, yeah, sure.

I guess you nitwits can't clamor for a brokered convention any longer, so you're moving on to this.

Guess what? The GOP would control any election thrown into the House, as each state has one vote. So we would still get Romney in that scenario.

31 posted on 09/12/2012 7:59:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Unam Sanctam
Basically a sound article.

Romney has moved considerably to the right since he left office in Massachusetts; and I believe that we can continue to move him in that direction. (See Why & How--Romney/Ryan.)

Romney is Conservative on the fiscal issues; moderately Conservative on recognizing that the Federal Government is not the agency to be dictating on questions of health, safety & morals (concerns that remain State issues) and shows the genuine Conservative disdain for "Class Warfare." He is certainly, taken all in all, more Conservative than several of the alternative Republican choices, whom he bested in the Primaries.

We need to work for his election; even as we continue to try to influence his personal direction.

William Flax

32 posted on 09/12/2012 8:02:39 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: dirtboy
"As opposed to what? What are the options? Either Obama or Romney will be president on January 20th, 2013.

Speaking of nitwits, you appear to be unable to recall what you said just moments before ~ and so I gave you one of the options ~ which you, you hapless doufous, asked for.

Right there's an option ~ 2 faithless electors from a state that doesn't require them to vote for whoever. It's always been there ready to do its magic work. It's been done 2 other times! There's actually a 4.25% chance of it happening again given history.

So, dirtboy, go suck lemons for 15 minutes ~ then get back to me on this.

Go do some prayer and get some counseling ~ see if I care i your feelings are hurt.

33 posted on 09/12/2012 8:11:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Speaking of nitwits, you appear to be unable to recall what you said just moments before ~ and so I gave you one of the options ~ which you, you hapless doufous, asked for.

You are about the only person I know who is a bigger ass than Hillary's backside. Get lost.

34 posted on 09/12/2012 8:15:56 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
BTW, get back to what the Constitution says about the House ~ it will be a newly elected Congress, with a new Speaker, not the old one with Boehner and his crowd.

Odds are good that the new Congress will have more anti-Romney guys in it than the present one ~ could be touch and go, besides which there are those Democrats who get to vote in the state delegations. Maybe they don't like Romney and are disappointed in their boy, so they vote with a couple of Socons to put in a third person ~ I do believe there's every chance for a deadlock all the way to january 20, 2013 at which time the Constitution grinds on and turns the Speaker into the President.

This is the kind of event that leads to serious political realignments ~ and that depends solely on the interests of the politicians involved ~ not the shenanigans of the GOP-e. The pros and advisors become worth MUCH less than whale droppings once this clicks into place, which is why, if there's the slightest chance, there are plenty of fans for DOING IT

35 posted on 09/12/2012 8:21:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
And in response to your condescending idiot post to me, I'll fire back:

Obviously Conservatives ~ both Socon and TEAParty can work this together to keep both the major party candidates out of the Presidency, and put in someone they want.

This mechanism is as absurd as efforts by you and your cohorts to claim there was a workable way to block Romney from being nominated. Republicans would control an election thrown into the House. They will support their candidate, lest they give the Dems a chance to win in his place. Duh.

You seem to be impressed with your ability to come up with scenarios that, while possible on paper, have utterly no chance of working in the real world.

Normally, a trait associated with idiot liberals. You really should be careful who you are emulating. And even more careful when you attack those of us who prefer to operate in the real world.

Lest you remove any remaining doubt about just how stupid you are.

36 posted on 09/12/2012 8:22:46 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Republicans in the House voting as part of state delegations will be voting along with the minority party called Democrats.

It is conceivable that disaffected TEAParty or Socon Representatives might vote with Democrats just to tie up the House until January 20, 2013 thereby freezing Obama and Romney out.

Remember, Romney is not a choice of the majority of Republicans anyway. He's a minority nominee.

Politics is politics boyo!

37 posted on 09/12/2012 8:27:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Unam Sanctam

He sounds like a description of a “moderate classic conservative”, who is more “moderate” than “conservative”.

And by “classic conservative” I mean someone who is content with the status quo, who wants change in neither direction, and is willing to accept major problems because “He does not want to ‘make waves’”, by trying to alleviate them.

This is an essential flaw with “moderate” Republicans. They are only willing to fight defensively, and even then in a “spirit of compromise”, with what amounts to an intolerant and endlessly demanding political enemy.

As did Chamberlain to Hitler. Appeasement of the oppressive and intolerant does not work. As vile as their core values, they *have* core values, even if they conceal them, and they reject “going along to get along.” They see such cooperative types as suckers, and they are right.

Unfortunately, right now America needs major changes in two directions: a return to fiscal stability and correcting the horrific financial catastrophe left behind by his predecessors; and to dismantle much of the police state gifted to us by W. Bush, who confused the enemy “over there” with American citizens “over here”, putting as much emphasis on oppressing us as smiting our enemies.

“Moderation” and “classic conservatism” just do not cut it right now, so the best we can hope for from Romney, and the surviving RINOs in congress and the senate is to “get the HELL out of the way and let real conservatives fix what needs fixing, without


38 posted on 09/12/2012 8:35:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Unam Sanctam

We don’t need a savior - we need to get obama OUT!


39 posted on 09/12/2012 8:37:11 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: muawiyah
Remember, Romney is not a choice of the majority of Republicans anyway. He's a minority nominee.

He is now the GOP nominee. He was not kicked out of the convention without getting nominated, despite all of your idiotic fantasies that such could happen. He would not be rejected by Republicans in the House if the election ended up there.

So you may have the last word, there is a very serious news story going on now that clearly shows a significant difference between Romney and Obama. One of them will be the next president.

40 posted on 09/12/2012 8:38:49 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

So far neither candidate has told the libyans or the egyptians to exterminate all these guys or we will turn their countries into rubble ~ anything short of that is just cowardice.


41 posted on 09/12/2012 8:42:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dirtboy

You do realize that we do not control all the state delegations ~ you have to have 26 of them to vote for a single candidate before january 20, 2013. That’s a lot more difficult than you imagine.


42 posted on 09/12/2012 8:44:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You do realize that we do not control all the state delegations ~ you have to have 26 of them to vote for a single candidate before january 20, 2013. That’s a lot more difficult than you imagine.

Try doing a simple exercise. Go check the number of Republican congresscritters versus Dem congresscritters by state. I did a quick tally and see that Dems only control sixteen state delegations and one tie - Minnesota.

So are there any other claims you wish to pull from your Hillary-sized arse?

43 posted on 09/12/2012 8:59:00 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: paudio

Was Ronald Reagan? Was Churchill? No but they did more for the world than any other men of their age.


44 posted on 09/12/2012 9:06:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: dirtboy
you have to have a quorum of the states, which is 2/3 of them. That is 34 states ~ which means, ta da, by your own count you don't have a quorum unless you start making some deals!

However, this would be a quorum of the states AFTER this coming election.

Let's say this pud of an election that should have been so easy to win we'd have a Republican sweep of every contested seat ends up evenly divided ~ you could find getting a quorum VERY difficult ~ rather like the 1876 problem ~

45 posted on 09/12/2012 9:26:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Unam Sanctam
"Is he exactly what we need? Probably not. Who is?"

President Arpaio?

46 posted on 09/12/2012 9:58:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Riodacat

47 posted on 09/12/2012 10:10:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Thanks for the ping friend!
Not many months ago, Freepers were saying they would vote for a tin can over Obama. I believe Romney has led a decent life and will vote for him over the ‘disgrace in office’ we have now.


48 posted on 09/15/2012 6:29:12 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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