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An Apology From Egypts Muslim Brotherhood Government? No, a Veiled Threat
NRO ^ | 12 September 2012 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 09/12/2012 1:26:43 PM PDT by EagleUSA

Reuters reports that Egypt’s prime minister, Hisham Kandil, has magnanimously said the U.S. government should not be blamed for the film about Mohammed that is the latest pretext for Islamic supremacist savagery. And is Egypt’s government sorry about the attack on our embassy? No. Kandil says the attack was “regrettable” — but not because rioting over a film is barbaric. Rather, it is “regrettable” because “the people who produced this low film have no relation to the (U.S.) government.” So rioting against the filmmakers is fine, and if there were any nexus to the government, rioting at our embassy would be fine, too.

… Which brings us to the second part of Kandil’s statement: “We ask the American government to take a firm position toward this film’s producers within the framework of international charters that criminalize acts that stir strife on the basis of race, color or religion.” Translation: We’re not holding the American government responsible … yet — but if it fails to punish the filmmakers, then all that “regrettable” stuff might not be so regrettable.

The Obama administration has brought this on itself, and the rest of us, by elevating sharia blasphemy standards over the First Amendment. As I explain in Spring Fever: The Illusion of Islamic Democracy, the State Department is working with the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, a bloc of 57 Muslim governments, to impose a resolution demanding that all nations enact laws against condemning not only incitement to violence based on religion, but also incitement to discrimination or hostility to religion.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: islamic; muslimbrotherhood; radical; radicalislam; support; weakness
Anti-Americanism at its worst.
1 posted on 09/12/2012 1:26:50 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Isn’t Muslim Brotherhood Obama’s club?


2 posted on 09/12/2012 1:33:59 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: EagleUSA
We should respond by cutting off the billion + in 'aid' we waste in Egypt as our way of protesting the inane non-apology of the Egyptian PM. Tell him the American people are 'offended' by him and his thug government.

Of course that will never happen but one has to wonder about the effect it might have on the corrupt politicians in the middle east that feast on American taxpayer's dollars while denouncing our nation and whining about Islam being disses by some movie.

3 posted on 09/12/2012 1:34:43 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Obama must be defeated)
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To: EagleUSA
“We The People of the United States of America ... ask the American government to take a firm position toward this 'country's' (Libya) leaders, and hold them accountable for the criminalized acts stirred by the Islamic supremacists among them.”

Translation: We’re holding the Libyan government responsible and if it fails to punish the perpetrators, then they will be the regrettable ones.

4 posted on 09/12/2012 1:36:09 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: EagleUSA

Egypt needs to get the message. Immediately deport all Egyptian nationals. Cut the $1.5 billion in aid. Level their M1A1 tank factory. Destroy their military infrastructure. If they don’t say they are sorry after that, then take out their entire electrical grid. Muslims do not deserve the technical advantages of the 21st century. Send them back to the 8th century where they belong. And no rebuilding this time.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 1:38:18 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: dalebert

“...Isn’t Muslim Brotherhood Obama’s club?...”

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Yes. He is a major contributor of taxpayer-dollars to these Islamofascist terrorists.


6 posted on 09/12/2012 1:41:32 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Bingo.

They want us to entirely rework our society and culture to suit......................ISLAM.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 1:47:32 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Sounds like a winner to me.


8 posted on 09/12/2012 2:01:28 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: EagleUSA; joanie-f; Alamo-Girl
“We ask the American government to take a firm position toward this film’s producers within the framework of international charters that criminalize acts that stir strife on the basis of race, color or religion.”

Oh really? So we should just gut the First Amendment to appease these barbarians?

Maybe we should consult history first. It is an historical fact that, since the seventh century, Islam has never lived peaceably with its neighbors anywhere it has gone, at any time. Heck, Islam can't live peaceably with itself; e.g., the perennial bloody schism between Sunni and Shi'a Islam.

So, who's to blame for the "strife" this double-speaker is referring to?

Which leads me to ask: What kind of "god" is presiding over all this? Such a god must be bloody-minded, seeking the complete submission of all of mankind to his "rule."

On this basis, I suspect that Muslims in general are not the best candidates for U.S. citizenship: There is zero correspondence between Sharia and Constitutional law. Not to mention that women are regarded in Islam, not merely as "second-class citizens," but as the chattel of the male members of their families. So-called honor killings are pretty much confined to females who seek self-determination. Evidently, Allah does not approve of this.

So, why the deafening silence of the so-called American "women's liberation movement," which was so prominently on display at last week's DNC?

Speaking of the DNC: I note that the number of Arab-American delegates at the DNC has increased some 25% since the last presidential election cycle. I mention this just in case anybody's still wondering why God and the Jerusalem language were deleted from the party platform.... Presumably with the "blessing" of our sitting president — until the political blowback forced him to put the language back into the platform by a "rigged" voice vote.

Rather than face dangerous facts, the MSM is, as usual, trying to change the subject altogether. You see, it's really Romney who's the bad guy here — for simply stating what should be obvious to anybody who knows the history of Islam, and the history of the United States of America....

Oil and water do not mix.

Thank you, EagleUSA, for this excellent post!

9 posted on 09/12/2012 2:15:54 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: dalebert
Obama=Arab Spring=Muslim Brotherhood=Al Qeada

Al-zawahirie, an Egyptian, and who was Bin Laden's right hand man, now the head of Al Qeada has had connections with Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood.

http://www.jamestown.org/programs/gta/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=714&tx_ttnews[backPid]=181&no_cache=1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/egypt-muslim-brotherhood-bin-laden-tried

Ayman al-Zawahiri, a leading contender to replace Bin Laden, was once aligned to the Muslim Brotherhood. His brother Mohammed was arrested under Mubarak and re-arrested shortly after his release by Egypt's military rulers.

10 posted on 09/12/2012 2:17:52 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: Chgogal

What to Obama might seem like “denigrating” a religion to others could be more like simply telling the truth about a religion that has been hijacked by extremists. We can’t be blackmailed by the threat of violence if we say or do what Islamic extremists deem to be blasphemy. We Americans cannot allow them to intimidate us. So therefore I fully support Mitt Romney’s statement. We need to vote the Apologist in Chief out of office.


11 posted on 09/12/2012 2:18:45 PM PDT by borg5575
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To: borg5575

I agree with you.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 2:21:57 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: ZULU

You got that right!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Morsi-Tells-Egyptian-Embassy-To-Sue-Filmmakers?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29


13 posted on 09/12/2012 2:24:33 PM PDT by Walmartian (An update is available for this tagline. Click here to download.)
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To: betty boop

Islam literally means submission. I will not submit.


14 posted on 09/12/2012 2:28:51 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: betty boop

“..Thank you, EagleUSA, for this excellent post!..”

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You are welcome.

And don’t miss the great, new movie coming to a theatre near you soon.....

** THE CRUSADES II **


15 posted on 09/12/2012 2:29:43 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: betty boop
What kind of "god" is presiding over all this?

The kind of god that would pick as prophet a pedophile.

I am in complete agreement with your "oil and water" analogy. Islam is anathema to our Constitutional Republic and to our notion of freedom.

16 posted on 09/12/2012 2:54:04 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: allmendream
Islam literally means submission. I will not submit.

On that point, dear brother allmendream, we are in complete agreement.

Neither will I.

May God ever bless you!

17 posted on 09/12/2012 6:02:24 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop
On this basis, I suspect that Muslims in general are not the best candidates for U.S. citizenship: There is zero correspondence between Sharia and Constitutional law. Not to mention that women are regarded in Islam, not merely as "second-class citizens," but as the chattel of the male members of their families. So-called honor killings are pretty much confined to females who seek self-determination. Evidently, Allah does not approve of this.

Indeed. It is oil and water as you say.

18 posted on 09/12/2012 9:00:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Betty, do you realize (I know you do -- this is just a rhetorical question) just how 'intolerant' the majority of your countrymen would view you as a result of this post?

And the answer to that question represents an enormous part of the explanation as to why America stands on the brink of demise.

God bless you, for your love of this republic, and your courage to voice what needs to be voiced in her defense.

~ joanie

19 posted on 09/12/2012 9:36:13 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: betty boop

The animosity of Muslims towards Christians like oil and water whichever you choose goes back many centuries. Though it became much more apparent with Mohammed the real animosity started out of Abraham’s tent when Abraham kicked his handmaiden Hagar out with son Ishmael and settled on his true wife Rachael with son Issac. Both Christians and Muslims consider Abraham their “godfather’. Mohammed was nothing more than the ‘prophet’ of his time trying to establish a following apart from the stem of Issac and he did quite well for himself.


20 posted on 09/12/2012 9:44:03 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: EagleUSA

Nuke Iran now and tell Egypt to shut the #### up.


21 posted on 09/12/2012 9:53:15 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: joanie-f; noinfringers2; Alamo-Girl
...do you realize ... just how 'intolerant' the majority of your countrymen would view you as a result of this post?

What is "intolerant" about stating simple historical facts that anyone can verify for himself, if they bother to look at the actual historical record? We're not talking about ancient history here. Recent evidence that Muslims tend to be unpeaceable neighbors includes the Balkan War....

The charge of "intolerance" is raised by folks who wish to censor speech, to make it conform to whatever shifting opinion of the "politically correct" happens to be in vogue at any given time. Such folks have zero respect for the idea that Truth is universally applicable to human beings whether they like it or not.

Or if people don't want to consult history, they can just go read the Quran and find out what it actually says — which is in fact the sayings of the prophet Mohammed.

Here's a sampler:

Sura 8, Spoils of War (Al-Anfãl), Quran, Khalifa translation

You Shall Be Prepared: A Divine Commandment

[8:60] You shall prepare for them [i.e., the non-believers] all the power you can muster, and all the equipment you can mobilize, that you may frighten the enemies of GOD, your enemies, as well as others who are not known to you; GOD knows them. Whatever you spend in the cause of GOD will be repaid to you generously, without the least injustice.

[8:61] If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient. [Note: "Peace" in Islam means total submission of all non-believers to Allah.]

God Suffices the Believers

[8:62] If they want to deceive you, then GOD will suffice you. He will help you with His support, and with the believers.

[8:63] He has reconciled the hearts (of the believers). Had you spent all the money on earth, you could not reconcile their hearts. But GOD did reconcile them. He is Almighty, Most Wise.

[8:64] O you prophet, sufficient for you is GOD and the believers who have followed you.

[8:65] O you prophet, you shall exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty of you who are steadfast, they can defeat two hundred, and a hundred of you can defeat a thousand of those who disbelieved. That is because they are people who do not understand.

[8:66] Now (that many new people have joined you) GOD has made it easier for you, for He knows that you are not as strong as you used to be. Henceforth, a hundred steadfast believers can defeat two hundred, and a thousand of you can defeat two thousand by GOD's leave. GOD is with those who steadfastly persevere.

[8:67] No prophet shall acquire captives, unless he participates in the fighting. You people are seeking the materials of this world, while GOD advocates the Hereafter. GOD is Almighty, Most Wise.

[8:68] If it were not for a predetermined decree from GOD, you would have suffered, on account of what you took, a terrible retribution.

[8:69] Therefore, eat from the spoils you have earned, that which is lawful and good, and observe GOD. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[8:70] O you prophet, tell the prisoners of war in your hands, "If GOD knew of anything good in your hearts, He would have given you better than anything you have lost, and would have forgiven you. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful." [8:71] And if they want to betray you, they have already betrayed GOD. This is why He made them the losers. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.

And I just loved this one, on "women's issues":

Sura 4, Women (Al-Nesã´), Quran, Khalifa translation

Do Not Beat Your Wife

[4:34] The men are made responsible for the women, and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners. The righteous women will cheerfully accept this arrangement, since it is GOD's commandment, and honor their husbands during their absence. If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them. GOD is Most High, Supreme.

Not to mention that the following presents a huge stumbling block for a nation erected on Christian principles:

Trinity: A False Doctrine
[4:171] O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. You shall not say, "Trinity." You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master.

Sura 48, Victory (Al-Fatt-h), Quran, Khalifa translation

The Great Prophecy

[48:28] He is the One who sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, to make it prevail over all other religions. GOD suffices as a witness.

Recently, I have been reading the Quran — in English, of course, since I do not speak Arabic.

"Abe and friends" at this website are not jihadis, but "moderate" in their approach to the holy texts. But I note on every single page, there's a disclaimer at the bottom: "Abe and friends condemn all acts of violence, suicide bombings, and terrorism enacted under the banner of Islam.”

Jeepers, why did they have to say that?

Whatever. It seems to me the text speaks for itself.

FWIW

Just a little story before I close. I have had Muslim friends in my past. One was a college boyfriend here in the United States who wanted to STAY here. He wanted very much to marry an American and settle here, not least because if he went back to Pakistan, his family would insist on an arranged marriage with his cousin; and he definitely was not up to that.

The second Muslim friend was a co-worker. On the morning of 9/11, she was beside herself with shock and grief over the events of that fatal day, and was especially worried about her cousin here, in the U.S., because the cousin insisted on continuing to wear the headscarf; and Filza was worried to death that her cousin would be attacked because she was self-identifying as a Muslim.

But I reassured Filza that her cousin was in no danger at all, that America was a system of rule of law that protects all individuals within its borders. That her cousin was completely safe here, not to worry.

And that turned out to be the case. There were no street gangs that went after Muslims, to mete out revenge for the horrific crimes of that fatal day. Unlike in the country of her birth, Pakistan.

Thank you for your kind words of support, dear joanie-f, sister in Christ!

22 posted on 09/13/2012 3:05:45 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop
But I reassured Filza that her cousin was in no danger at all, that America was a system of rule of law that protects all individuals within its borders. That her cousin was completely safe here, not to worry.

And that turned out to be the case. There were no street gangs that went after Muslims, to mete out revenge for the horrific crimes of that fatal day. Unlike in the country of her birth, Pakistan.

Indeed.

Thank you so much for those shocking passages out of the koran and for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

23 posted on 09/13/2012 10:07:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Incredibly insightful observations, backed up by words from their own holy book.

What rational human being could disagree with your assertions, betty?

Trouble is, too many Americans are either incapable of analyzing and digesting such facts, or unwilling to spend the time. They would rather parrot one-line political 'truths' fed to them by the mainstream media. Before the dust has settled around this Middle East mess, Obama and his state department will be blameless in all of the carnage and unrest, and analyses as remarkable as yours will have been swept under the rug.

Thank you for taking the time, and connecting the dots.

Your sister in Christ --

~ joanie

24 posted on 09/14/2012 3:28:11 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
... too many Americans are either incapable of analyzing and digesting such facts, or unwilling to spend the time. They would rather parrot one-line political 'truths' fed to them by the mainstream media.

Unfortunately, this often seems to be the case. And so such folks probably would not ever recognize that the current crises in the Middle East and North Africa are simply Obama's abysmal foreign policy "chickens coming home to roost."

In the end, we get the government we deserve, dear sister in Christ.

Thank you so much for writing!

25 posted on 09/15/2012 10:43:58 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: noinfringers2
Mohammed was nothing more than the ‘prophet’ of his time trying to establish a following apart from the stem of Issac and he did quite well for himself.

He certainly did.

Thank you so very much for pointing out the historical basis of Islam, noinfringers2!

26 posted on 09/15/2012 10:50:16 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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