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Ambassador Stevens killed at site with no Marines
politico ^ | 9/12/12 | PHILIP EWING and JONATHAN ALLEN

Posted on 09/12/2012 3:21:13 PM PDT by ColdOne

The consulate where the American ambassador to Libya was killed on Tuesday is an “interim facility” not protected by the contingent of Marines that safeguards embassies, POLITICO has learned.

Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed with three other Americans in an attack on the U.S. consulate in the city of Benghazi, where Libyan rebels ousted strongman Moammar Qadhafi last year.

Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Kendra Motz said that Marines were not posted to the consulate, unlike the embassy in the capital, Tripoli.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabspring; chrisstevens; libya; obamawar

1 posted on 09/12/2012 3:21:16 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

mac daddy brought them home so they were able to be forced to attend his photo op rallies.


2 posted on 09/12/2012 3:27:26 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: ColdOne
I hope all Americans have enough sense to get out of Libya immediately. And the rest of the ME. Oh, and let's quit cutting those checks for them. Yes, I am a simple person and I know these are simplistic answers to a complex problem, or so Hillary and Obama tell me. Sometimes simple is best!
3 posted on 09/12/2012 3:27:42 PM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the word Obama!)
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To: ColdOne

WTF??? Why the HELL NOT?????? Thanks Obama for getting these people killed.


4 posted on 09/12/2012 3:28:28 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ColdOne

Obama is too busy campaigning, golfing or running around joking with the MSM or Hollywood to be President. This is not a joking matter.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 3:28:33 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: ColdOne

sending Marines now...kind of like shutting the barn door AFTER... what a fool we have for a president


6 posted on 09/12/2012 3:31:28 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: FreedBird

The barbarians are at the gate and Israel stands alone.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 3:32:23 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Ann Archy

The more that comes out the more this Administration gets a huge F. They have flunked out and need to be removed from leadership! LACK of leadership... That is!


8 posted on 09/12/2012 3:34:05 PM PDT by JFC
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To: JFC

Oh, they have leadership.....they are leading us to DESTRUCTION in the FAST LANE, which was why Obama was ELECTED.....by STUPID people that wanted us DESTROYED!


9 posted on 09/12/2012 3:36:46 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ColdOne

Planned.
Planned by Obama.
Planned by enemies of the USA.

Enemies foreign and domestic.


10 posted on 09/12/2012 3:39:30 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Diogenesis

MIHOP?
LIHOP?


11 posted on 09/12/2012 3:41:09 PM PDT by CityCenter
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To: ColdOne

Obammy is a...I can’t post it. sorry.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 3:42:24 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: ColdOne

The American Ambassador was murdered....he represents us.....in essence, they murdered you and me.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 3:46:07 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Ann Archy
"WTF??? Why the HELL NOT?????? "

Because it was a consulate, and not an embassy. An embassy is the territorial property of the represented nation. A consulate is just a secondary location hosted in smaller buildings, usually to support American civilians or activities in that area. It has no special legal rights, and is no more "ours" than any other building belongs to its tenants. Our embassy in Libya is in Tripoli.

The same thing happens in the U.S. and other countries. China has an embassy in Washington D.C. that is guarded by Chinese soldiers and is considered Chinese soil. China also has consulates in New York, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. These consulates are in regular office buildings and are considered to be American soil. We'd all be pretty pissed if the Chinese brought a bunch of soldiers onto our soil.

It's important to remember that our soldiers have no legal rights in other countries, unless those countries are under the control of the American military. Libya isn't one of those countries. We don't occupy or control them. Legally, our soldiers have the same rights there as tourists and other visitors. There are very few nations that allow heavily armed tourists to walk around their cities. Even fewer will allow foreign soldiers to occupy locations outside of their embassies.
14 posted on 09/12/2012 3:49:52 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: ColdOne
OK I am confused. Two Marines were killed but now they weren't there?

Obama said Libyan Security Forces fought side by side with the Marines but they weren't there?

Then we find out the Libyan Security Forces fingered the Ambassador and told the mob what building he was in.

Then Obama said that the Libyans rushed the Ambassador to the Hospital but CBS reports the mob drug him through the streets. Now CBS is captioning the photo of him being drug through the streets as locals trying to rush the unconscious Ambassador to the hospital.

Folks we are being lied to. This whole situation stinks to high heaven. I am literally watching these stories and you can see the work of the ministry of truth redacting and morphing the meme to give an advantage to Obama.

The issue of the open mic that reveals the MSM reporters colluding to Ambush Romney is chilling. YET NO ONE IS CALLING FOR THOSE REPORTERS TO BE FIRED. NOT EVEN THE RNC.

All I can say is WTF IS WRONG WITH THE REPUBLICANS?

DO they not understand this operation to hide the truth should be shouted from the roof tops?

15 posted on 09/12/2012 3:53:57 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Arthalion

HEY...our AMBASSADOR was there......where are the MARINES????


16 posted on 09/12/2012 3:58:42 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Arthalion

They were unable to defend themselves.Must of felt safe there.


17 posted on 09/12/2012 4:03:09 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Ann Archy

http://gma.yahoo.com/slain-diplomat-chris-stevens-slipped-libya-cargo-ship-154521257.html

In an August blog post, Draper said the ambassador was “legendary” in Libya because he stayed in the country through the revolution, “liaising with the rebels and leading a skeleton crew of Americans on the ground to support humanitarian efforts and meeting up-and-coming political leaders.”

You would think they would have cut his throat last.


18 posted on 09/12/2012 4:06:45 PM PDT by Einherjar ( Asking only workman's wages I come looking for a job But I get no offers...Just a come-on from the)
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To: Mad Dawgg

So far, James Taranto in the WSJ, Best of the Web, is the only one telling the truth about the situation.

I have been thinking that the command went out from the White House to the media that the US had to speak as one voice in this dangerous foreign policy situation and that Romney is not that one voice. I think the order went down to support the White House, no matter what.


19 posted on 09/12/2012 4:07:10 PM PDT by Eva (Obama and Hillary lied, Americans died.)
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To: ColdOne

So...he died of suffocation from the fire
and... he was carried by lybians to the hospital
and... he was taken to a separate building where he was killed.

Okay.


20 posted on 09/12/2012 4:08:09 PM PDT by americas.best.days...
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To: Einherjar

Muslims ONLY respect STRENGTH.....ONLY strength!!!! Sadly the Amb.was seen as WEAK.


21 posted on 09/12/2012 4:09:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ColdOne
" where Libyan rebels ousted strongman Moammar Qadhafi last year. "

Where oBama single handedly ousted strongman Moammar Qadhafi last year for his Libyan rebel buddies.

Fake but accurate

22 posted on 09/12/2012 4:11:24 PM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: Ann Archy
HEY...our AMBASSADOR was there......where are the MARINES????

Tripoli I assume. That's where the embassy is, that's where their post is. They aren't the ambassador's personal bodyguards.

23 posted on 09/12/2012 4:13:42 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Ann Archy
Muslims ONLY respect STRENGTH.....ONLY strength!!!! Sadly the Amb.was seen as WEAK.

I doubt even that is true. They hate. It's what they do best. They hate without fear from retaliation because when your goal is martyrdom then it doesn't matter if you're picking on the biggest guy in the room or the smallest.

24 posted on 09/12/2012 4:15:41 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Ann Archy
"WTF??? Why the HELL NOT??????"

FR Thread:

CBS: Libyan security team fingered US ambassador to be killed; Libyan president issues apology

25 posted on 09/12/2012 4:15:55 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Delhi Rebels

No, they actually DO respect STRENGTH.......it;s the ONLY thing they do.


26 posted on 09/12/2012 4:17:10 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

You’ve got every right to be pissed. And you missed something from a related article. This was one of the last postings by the ambassador, in some on-line game forum (so, he wasn’t perfect). He was smart - he knew his days were over.

“(12:54:09 PM) vile_rat: assuming we don’t die tonight. We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures”


27 posted on 09/12/2012 4:17:39 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Delhi Rebels

on 9/11 they couldn’t arrange the ambassdador to be in Tripoli
embassy guarded by Marines

he’s at Benghazi?????? with no Marines?????

naive, incompetent, dangerous, arrogant, foolish

oh, I see Obama is Prez, therefore everyone loves us and nothing bad
will happen 9/11


28 posted on 09/12/2012 4:18:00 PM PDT by preamble
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To: Delhi Rebels

Are you telling me that our AMb. have no security detail....anywhere???? Come on...especially in the Arab world.


29 posted on 09/12/2012 4:18:11 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Nifster
"sending Marines now...kind of like shutting the barn door AFTER... what a fool we have for a president"

Kind of reminiscent of how Clinton & Les Aspin refused to send our Rangers the equipment they asked for, and then left them there to die in Mogadishu.

The Obama White House and State Department have repeatedly been told since 2009, by both Congressional Committees, and the State Department's own watch-dog, that security at our embassies needs to be beefed up. So what did Obama and Clinton know, and when did they know it? When will we see Sandy Burgher make another trip to the Archives to stuff classified papers covering this tragic event, down his pants?

30 posted on 09/12/2012 4:25:57 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Ann Archy
Are you telling me that our AMb. have no security detail....anywhere???? Come on...especially in the Arab world.

Liberals think themselves invincible.

31 posted on 09/12/2012 4:26:24 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: mass55th

I know the shadow of too many disastrous presidents hangs over this one....


32 posted on 09/12/2012 4:27:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
sending Marines now...kind of like shutting the barn door AFTER... what a fool we have for a president

The Foreign Policy of this Administration has
always been a day late and a "dollar" short !

Anarchist or incompetent or too much toot.


33 posted on 09/12/2012 4:30:13 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Delhi Rebels

A dead Muzz doesn’t have to respect strength.


34 posted on 09/12/2012 4:40:04 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Mad Dawgg

>> Folks we are being lied to.

I don’t get how this is being characterized as a social-media based operation, yet there was no actionable intel that would have helped to protect the embassy personnel.


35 posted on 09/12/2012 4:40:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Mad Dawgg
In the quotes I heard played on the radio our government officials said that the Libyans carried the body to the hospital.

No doubt the MSM spun that to sound like they took the living Ambassador to the hospital. I've never heard someone refer to a living person as a "body" that they are taking to the hospital.

36 posted on 09/12/2012 4:44:55 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BobL

No that was Sean Smith that was the in the online game forum not Amb Stevens.


37 posted on 09/12/2012 4:44:55 PM PDT by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: Gene Eric
And now Breitbart is reporting Obama didn't have an intelligence briefing for foreign affairs anytime in the week prior to the attack. Which seems strange being it was the Anniversary of 9-11.
38 posted on 09/12/2012 4:46:16 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

“All I can say is WTF IS WRONG WITH THE REPUBLICANS?”

It’s called the stupid party for good reasons.

Sleep well in your bed tonight because Republicans are watching over you. (sarcasm)


39 posted on 09/12/2012 5:07:13 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: heylady
Sean Smith that was the in the online game forum

Wikipedia tells me that Smith (vile_rat) was a big time gamer. Like, known globally.

Must have made a hell of a contribution to Obama's administration.

40 posted on 09/12/2012 5:15:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There was a really good article about Sean Smith on Free Republic by the guy he was online with moments before Smith was murdered. I found it using Sean Smith as the keyword.You might find it interesting. I did.


41 posted on 09/12/2012 5:58:10 PM PDT by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: ColdOne

I’ve been asking all day , who are these 2 Americans that were killed ? Marines ? Have their names been released ?


42 posted on 09/12/2012 7:29:29 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: Nifster

Fool?

Malignancy, siding with Muslims.


43 posted on 09/12/2012 8:41:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

granted a malignant narcissist


44 posted on 09/12/2012 8:50:14 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: ColdOne

Placemark.


45 posted on 09/12/2012 9:26:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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