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Felony charges issued in (Against US Marine) cab driver attack
Wect ^ | 9/12/12

Posted on 09/12/2012 3:39:15 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton

SURF CITY, NC (WECT) – Camp Lejeune has released its first statement in regards to an incident involving a Marine, who is accused of attacking a Surf City cab driver over the weekend.  The incident was caught on video inside the taxi.

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1 posted on 09/12/2012 3:39:20 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton
warrants have been obtained against 30-year-old Gunnery Sgt. John Adam Kinosh
Gy/Sgts (E-7) usually have their "stuff" together or they wouldn't be Gy/Sgts. They may not be angels, but I'll bet this is a rare event.
2 posted on 09/12/2012 3:50:01 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Watched the video. Sgt. John Adam Kinosh is going to get a long taste of civilian prison time.


3 posted on 09/12/2012 3:50:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

At least we know that Gunnery Sgt. John Adam Kinosh will be able to defend himself against any 5 foot two 135 pound, glasses wearing inmates he will encounter in prison.


4 posted on 09/12/2012 3:58:36 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

A few to many beers...


5 posted on 09/12/2012 3:59:04 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: montanajoe

Gunny Highway ?


6 posted on 09/12/2012 4:01:07 PM PDT by Einherjar ( Asking only workman's wages I come looking for a job But I get no offers...Just a come-on from the)
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To: dragnet2

lock that animal up and throw away the key


7 posted on 09/12/2012 4:03:40 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Police said Kinosh is assigned to Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command at Stone Bay.

I wonder if the Sgt. has been is Afghanistan.

A friend of mine’s son is a Marine and spent two tours in Afghanistan and one in Iraq.

He has been involved in two IED attacks and suffered head injuries during the attacks.

Since then he has suffered from anger control problems that he never had before. He also has become an alcoholic after the head injuries.

I suspect the Sgt. really does need to be hospitalized.

Most people don’t have any idea of the personality changes that can occur from these brain injuries that happen in these attacks.

8 posted on 09/12/2012 4:13:54 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: montanajoe
A few to many beers...

They're likely to prove to be very costly beers.

9 posted on 09/12/2012 4:14:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Pontiac

OR the massive amount of drugs they are fed.


10 posted on 09/12/2012 4:15:46 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Pontiac
I suspect the Sgt. really does need to be hospitalized.

That's certainly possible.I doubt that there are many Marine E-7s who haven't spent *some* time,if not a *lot* of time,in Afghanistan and/or Iraq.If he had a clean record before the tour(s) he's almost certain to have had a prosecutor/judge/jury might go easy on him under certain circumstances (psych treatment/alcohol treatment,etc).

11 posted on 09/12/2012 4:21:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Oh yeah...Things will be a bit different in a civilian joint. They got real violent lumberheads in there.

I just could never stomach someone going after a person who is working, making a meager living, who was no threat, then having to put up with AH’s like this.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 4:22:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Somebody on here told a story about taking a cab to their new posting with other service members, and the cab driver charging them ten times the normal fare, with the idea in mind these guys couldn’t get even accused of trying to stiff a cab fare due to their security clearances and/or military regs. They ended up giving the cabbie everything they had in their pockets.

It is possible the cab guy tried to stiff the wrong Gunny somehow. No excuse, but I’d like to know the Gunny’s side.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 5:01:19 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: Uncle Slayton

vet, war vet.

drunk or sober, I know when I’m going to go red.

took a long time, but i know the signs way in advance now and can re-direct.

This guy has a long long way to go.

Interesting to see the video though. I can pick at least a dozen times where a different course of action by the driver could have averted everything.

Now, I’m not saying it should have been his responsibility to do that (too much), but if you do car service, when the sun goes down, the old folks are done grocery shopping.

You need two different kind of drivers: Getting Granny her groceries; and Getting slobbo home without him puking in your car.

Driver’s Ed alone won’t cut it.


14 posted on 09/12/2012 5:59:52 PM PDT by onona (This space for rent....)
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To: onona
I have a family member (now deceased) who behaved this same way frequently after he had been drinking. He was a combat veteran in both WWII and Korea and served also during Vietnam as a drill sergeant. He was a very good soldier and a genuine decorated war hero who saved the lives of many through his actions.

He beat the crap out of a lot of people over the years, a lot of strangers, but his family were the victims more often than not. He made their lives a living hell while his kids were growing up. He had numerous scrapes with the law, but there were no video cameras back then. The only documentation were the medical reports made about his victims. Because of his decorated service record he never did any serious time behind bars.

His wife died early of a brain aneurysm which her doctors thought may have been related to the repeated serious beatings she received. I know that he blamed himself for her death and punished himself until the day that he died ten years later.

The kids also received injuries to their backs and necks that are still causing them problems all these years later. And there are psychological injuries also that have caused them problems as well. I like to say that they have undocumented casualties of war.

I hope the cab driver makes a complete recovery. I also hope that the sergeant is able to rid himself of his inner daemons. He may just be a mean drunk, but there is probably more to it. He can either be a curse or a blessing to his loved ones. I hope that he will straighten himself out largely for his and his family's sake, because I have seen the damage that can be done and it is not pretty.

15 posted on 09/12/2012 7:08:13 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: onona
“Getting slobbo home without him puking in your car.”

I drove a taxi for awhile when I was young. I remember one Christmas Eve. I got a call to a second story apartment I was on the street and blew the horn and this guy comes barrelling out of the apartment, hits the banister nearly falls two stories, ricochets off the two flight of stairs and weaves his way to my cab where I had opened the door thinking great another drunk..well he got in slammed the door and said to me "not bad for a blind guy"...

16 posted on 09/12/2012 7:23:02 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: onona

Most who drive a cab are armed. For damn good reason. Even then, the passenger will have the drop on them most the time. They’d have to pay me 200k per year to drive one.


17 posted on 09/12/2012 7:47:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
I always had a derringer in my pocket..I wasn't to worried about fights but I wasn't going to let some b*stard kill me...
18 posted on 09/12/2012 7:54:05 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: dragnet2

That is called a steroid rage brought on by alcohol. Notice his huge upper torso and birdie legs.


19 posted on 09/12/2012 8:25:13 PM PDT by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Big tough guy went and hid in a behavior health hospital. They’ll most like toss him after the mandatory assessment.


20 posted on 09/13/2012 1:58:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: AnonymousConservative
It is possible the cab guy tried to stiff the wrong Gunny somehow...

Even if that's what happened it's no excuse for what he did.The correct way to handle it is to get on the phone to the police and let them settle it.Whether it was booze,drugs or PTSD the Marine was way,way,WAY out of line.

21 posted on 09/13/2012 4:51:27 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Is this whole thing a staged propaganda play organized by somebody connected to Obama to fuel support for his recent mandated Veteran Health care act?

There appears to me more cases of acts like this, too coincidental I think, staged? Get some big bucks for your family to participate in a staged event?

Smells like fermenting herring to me.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 5:00:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: oh8eleven
What makes a soldier great might also make him a lousy citizen. I think this guy proves it.
23 posted on 09/13/2012 5:20:06 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Eye of Unk

I think that I will go along with your assessment. If the Marine had been serious the guy would have been bleeding and if not unconscionus, barely conscience, his speech would have been slurred, and from experience when I had been hit on or close to the nose, his eyes would have been watering. There is something that don’t add up.


24 posted on 09/13/2012 5:20:50 AM PDT by sport
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To: liberalh8ter
What makes a soldier great might also make him a lousy citizen.
Soldier and civilian are not mutually exclusive. And you just don't get promoted six times over a ten year span in the MC by behaving this way.
After five or six or maybe even eight tours in a combat zone he just freaked.
No excuses - just sayin'.
25 posted on 09/13/2012 5:37:18 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Maybe so. I remember my husband telling me after leaving the corps that the hardest part for him being out in the RW was not having someone telling you what to do, how to think, when to do something, etc. it took a while to get used to it. My comment was aimed more at that. Someone may follow orders in an exemplary manner and be totally lost in the RW without having an overseer.
26 posted on 09/13/2012 5:43:36 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: liberalh8ter
Someone may follow orders in an exemplary manner and be totally lost in the RW without having an overseer.
Sorry, not in my Marine Corps.
27 posted on 09/13/2012 5:49:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: liberalh8ter
What makes a soldier great might also make him a lousy citizen. I think this guy proves it.

I once worked with a guy who had done two tours in Vietnam as a Marine.Although I never saw combat and,therefore,might not be qualified to judge,everything about him suggested to me that he might be a great guy to have standing beside you in a firefight.However,he was a complete jerk in the workplace.He treated everyone like he was the DI and they were the recruits.Nobody liked him.

28 posted on 09/13/2012 5:54:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: sport
If the Marine had been serious ... There is something that don’t add up.

Yea, the driver probably fell down the steps to his basement after he got home......

29 posted on 09/13/2012 6:30:46 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: liberalh8ter

Gunnery Sargeants don’t have overseers; they are the overseers.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 6:33:52 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
Gunnery Sargeants don’t have overseers; they are the overseers.

I think that one or two Marine officers might take issue with you on that.

31 posted on 09/13/2012 7:13:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I think not.

Gunnery Sergeant is that quintessential rank of United States Marine Corps enlisted service. It is a Gunny's job to provide for a discipline those Marines in his Company, a job with which officers seldom interfere.

32 posted on 09/13/2012 7:43:40 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Hot Tabasco

The video I watched did not show this. I stand corrected. Having been on both ends of ass whippings [getting them and giving them] from whatI saw on the cab video he did not look all that bad. Thank you for updating me.


33 posted on 09/13/2012 8:13:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Keep in mind that the dash mounted camera also gives a distorted perception of depth of field so as to capture both the driver and passenger via wide angle. Not sure how to explain it other than it’s like looking through a rifle scope from the opposite end. Or your passenger side mirror that has the warning “objects in mirror may be closer than they look”


34 posted on 09/13/2012 8:38:43 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: onona

“I can pick at least a dozen times where a different course of action by the driver could have averted everything.”

Maybe. But, there are no laws against telling someone to get out of your cab.

However, there are laws against Assault and Attempted Grand Theft of an Auto and the Marine in going to do hard time for his crime.


35 posted on 09/13/2012 11:59:17 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: AnonymousConservative

“It is possible the cab guy tried to stiff the wrong Gunny somehow. No excuse, but I’d like to know the Gunny’s side.”

No money exchanged hands and the victim was just doing his job of driving a cab.

As for the Gunny he will soon be an inmate breaking rocks in the hot sun.


36 posted on 09/13/2012 12:04:14 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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