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Report: Sacked Benghazi Consulate Had No Protection From US Marines
Townhall.com ^ | Guy Benson

Posted on 09/12/2012 5:56:03 PM PDT by Kaslin

How could this have been allowed to happen?  Infuriating:
 

The consulate where the American ambassador to Libya was killed on Tuesday is an “interim facility” not protected by the contingent of Marines that safeguards embassies, POLITICO has learned. Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed with three other Americans in an attack on the U.S. consulate in the city of Benghazi, where Libyan rebels ousted strongman Moammar Qadhafi last year. Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Kendra Motz said that Marines were not posted to the consulate, unlike the embassy in the capital, Tripoli. A defense official told POLITICO on Wednesday that the Pentagon is sending an elite team of about 50 additional Marines, called a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team, to reinforce the embassy.

A senior administration official Wednesday called the Benghazi consulate “an interim facility,” which the State Department began using “before the fall of Qadhafi.” It was staffed Tuesday by Libyan and State Department security officers. The consulate came under fire from heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades at about 10 p.m. local time on Tuesday. By the time the attack ended several hours later, four Americans were dead and three others had been injured. The Benghazi consulate had “lock-and-key” security, not the same level of defenses as a formal embassy, an intelligence source told POLITICO. That means it had no bulletproof glass, reinforced doors or other features common to embassies. The intelligence source contrasted it with the American embassy in Cairo, Egypt – “a permanent facility, which is a lot easier to defend.” The Cairo embassy also was attacked Tuesday.


Whoa.  So despite months of threats and escalating violence, our Benghazi consulate remained woefully under-protected -- even when our Ambassador was present, and even on a glaringly symbolic date.  That's not an oversight.  That's an egregious failure.  Now that the damage is done and four souls have been lost, our government has finally dispatched an elite team of Marines to Benghazi to...what, exactly?  Guard the smoldering ashes and corpses?  I'm also puzzled by the assertion that our Cairo embassy is "a lot easier to defend."  That's undoubtedly true -- at least compared to the "lock-and-key" Mickey Mouse security measures in Benghazi -- but, er, wasn't our mighty Cairo breached by the angry mob, too?  Not to worry, though, Egypt's new Islamist leader is spitting mad.  But not over the violent protests and dangerous violation of US sovereignty:
 

A day after rioters breached the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt's president spoke Wednesday in the "strongest terms" -- but not against the attack. WhiIe Egypt's prime minister called Tuesday's incident "regrettable" and unjustified, President Mohamed Morsy condemned the anti-Muslim film that incited the protesters. Morsy made a reference to Egypt's duty to protect diplomatic missions and its opposition to unlawful protesters, but did not mention or criticize those who stormed the embassy. "The presidency condemns in the strongest terms the attempt of a group to insult the place of the Messenger, the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and condemns the people who have produced this radical work," the president said...


It now appears that Amb. Stevens was murdered inside the consulate, and only later did other American diplomats come under coordinated, heavy fire at their ostensible "safe house."  That location was reportedly compromised by Libyan security personnel (Update: CBS News confirms), upon whom the American civilians were relying in the absence of US Marines.  We've also learned that two additional Americans were killed during the chaotic, hours-long firefight.  This account from NBC News paints a frightening picture:
 

U.S. troops dispatched by helicopter across the Libyan desert to rescue Ambassador Chris Stevens and other diplomats in Benghazi ran into a fierce overnight ambush that left a further two Americans dead, Libyan officials told Reuters. Accounts of the mayhem at the U.S. consulate, where the ambassador and another diplomat died after a chaotic protest over a film insulting to Islam, remain patchy. But two Libyan officials, including the commander of a security force that escorted the U.S. rescuers, said a later assault on a supposedly safe refuge for the diplomats appeared professionally executed. Miscommunication that understated the number of American survivors awaiting rescue -- there were 37, nearly four times as many as the Libyan commander expected -- also meant survivors and rescuers found themselves short of transport to escape this second battle, delaying an eventual dawn break for the airport.

Capt. Fathi al-Obeidi, whose special operations unit was ordered by Libya's authorities to meet an eight-man U.S. Marine force at Benghazi airport, said that after his men and the Marines had found the American survivors who had evacuated the blazing consulate, the ostensibly secret location in an isolated villa came under an intense and highly accurate mortar barrage. "I really believe that this attack was planned," he said, adding to suggestions by other Libyan officials that at least some of the hostility towards the Americans was the work of experienced combatants. "The accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any regular revolutionaries." ... Of the eight American troops who had come from Tripoli, one was killed and two were wounded, Obeidi said. A Libyan deputy interior minister said a second American was also killed in the attack on the safe house. It was not clear if this was a diplomat or one of the consulate's original security detail.


Our representatives and their protectors were totally and comprehensively unprepared for what hit them.  It's increasingly clear that street protests "provoked" by an obscure Mohammad film were were a highly effective smoke-screen, and may even have been instigated by the terrorists themselves.  CNN reports:
 

That analysis is supported by U.S. sources who say the attack on the consulate is believed to have been pre-planned. The sources say the attackers used the protest as a diversion to launch the attack, although the sources could not say if the attackers instigated the protest or merely took advantage of it.


This was a lethal meltdown, in which our enemies out-smarted and out-gunned the United States.  And they also displayed a remarkable degree of cunning in order to play our media, too.  The controversial film is the red herring here -- there's something much more dangerous afoot, as six of our departed countrymen learned when they were slaughtered, terrified, while thousands of miles from home.  Appalling.


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KEYWORDS: arabspring; barackobama; egypt; foreignpolicy; libya; marinecorps
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1 posted on 09/12/2012 5:56:10 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Egypt is now FIRMLY in the enemy camp. Have no doubt about that.


2 posted on 09/12/2012 5:59:14 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Kaslin
This is just flippin' unbelievable. Every 9/11 I was in Iraq we operated under a heightened state of awareness.

The first observation any American makes getting off the plane in Kuwait is the realization that THEY DON'T LIKE US VERY MUCH.

... and they never will. Obie and Hill played for fools and now comes the payback. Idiots.

3 posted on 09/12/2012 5:59:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: Kaslin
This is just flippin' unbelievable. Every 9/11 I was in Iraq we operated under a heightened state of awareness.

The first observation any American makes getting off the plane in Kuwait is the realization that THEY DON'T LIKE US VERY MUCH.

... and they never will. Obie and Hill played for fools and now comes the payback. Idiots.

4 posted on 09/12/2012 5:59:28 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: Kaslin

Obama’s Fault.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 6:04:45 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yr7odFUARg Who did you want answering that phone at 3 AM?

BTW I didn't want any Democrats or Democrat wannabees doing that ~ so it was a real problem in 2008.

Still it was a good question

6 posted on 09/12/2012 6:04:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: House Atreides
"Egypt is now FIRMLY in the enemy camp. Have no doubt about that."

Well I for one am shocked! Shocked I say! Are you shocked? Because I am shocked!

7 posted on 09/12/2012 6:05:03 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Kaslin

Ron Brown, Vince Foster, Chris Stevens ....


8 posted on 09/12/2012 6:05:30 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

The consulate didn’t need protection from the US Marines, it needed protection from the godless muslims.


9 posted on 09/12/2012 6:05:37 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Kaslin

Whether Tripoli, Cairo or Bengazi.,, I have been wondering all day “where were the devil dogs” ?

My only conclusion is that they were ordered to stand down OR were scaled back as part of our touchy feely Arab spring response.

No self respecting Marine (IMHO) would have been over run unless ordered to do so. (I know, that doesnt make sense either)


10 posted on 09/12/2012 6:06:09 PM PDT by llevrok (By comparison to Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: Kaslin

Can anyone tell me how the murderers knew that the Ambassador was in the Benghazi Consulate instead of at the Embassy in Tripoli?

Security seems to have been extremely lax.


11 posted on 09/12/2012 6:06:20 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (2010 All Over Again. Make it happen. Get Busy!)
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To: Kaslin
"Sacked Benghazi Consulate Had No Protection From US Marines"

Darn idiot fifth grade "journalism" quality.

I never needed protection from US Marines, either, I was protected by 'em.

12 posted on 09/12/2012 6:09:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: House Atreides

The saddest part of this is the fact that Kadaffi wouldn’t have allowed this to happen despite being a piece of crap.

At least he was a fearful piece of crap who was more afraid of us than his own people.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 6:09:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin

“How could this have been allowed to happen?”

How do we know this isn’t Obama’s October surprise? Rest assured he will be stomping Arab ass from now till November. This is his road to reelection. USA, USA, USA!


14 posted on 09/12/2012 6:12:08 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Palmetto Patriot
IMO, no foreign nationals can be trusted. My first year in Tikrit, every time our IT chief went outside the wire, she got hit. Coincidence? Don't think so.
15 posted on 09/12/2012 6:13:56 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: Kaslin
Years of Warning about Embassy Security Preceded Attack.
16 posted on 09/12/2012 6:14:00 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: Edward Teach
...I am shocked!

That'll teach ya to post while in the shower.

17 posted on 09/12/2012 6:14:21 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Kaslin

>> whom the American civilians were relying in the absence of US Marines.

I understand a US General disciplined Citizen Terry Jones earlier today. A diversion?


18 posted on 09/12/2012 6:14:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: cripplecreek

And some officials of Libya’s current practically non-existent government were saying the attack was carried out by former members of Muammar Gaddafi’s former regime. Bullshit—it clearly was an al-Qaeda (likely under Muslim Brotherhood sponsorship/protection) operation.


19 posted on 09/12/2012 6:15:56 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Kaslin

It is a consulate not an embassy. Few consulates have marines assigned.


20 posted on 09/12/2012 6:17:57 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: llevrok
There were no Marines there... only Stevens and three other Americans. One was a State Department Security Officer. Tonight there are 50 Marines there securing and doing whatever it is that they need to do. Two Destroyers are sailing off shore in support. Way late IMHO. How can a US EMBASSY in a WAR ZONE be left UNGUARDED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN libyan MILITARY OPERATIVES THAT AIDED THE TERRORISTS?

LLS

21 posted on 09/12/2012 6:18:24 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Kaslin
US ambassador killed in 'co-ordinated al Qaeda revenge attack by terrorists snipped
Wed 12 Sep 2012 08:46:01 PM UTC · by little jeremiah · 47 replies
UK Daily Mail ^ | 12 September 2012 | Jill Reilly and Lydia Warren
"A bloody attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya that left American ambassador Christopher Stevens, two marines and a communications officer dead..."


ISLAMISTS DRAG DEAD BODY OF US AMBASSADOR THROUGH THE STREETS OF BENGHAZI! (Updated)
Wed 12 Sep 2012 02:45:56 PM UTC · by servo1969 · 254 replies The Gateway Pundit ^ | 9-12-2012 | Jim Hoft
"Islamists murdered the US ambassador and three others including two US Marines at the embassy last night."


22 posted on 09/12/2012 6:18:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the world.)
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To: cripplecreek

>> Kadaffi wouldn’t have allowed this to happen despite being a piece of crap.

If I’m not mistaken, Gaddafi (taking advantage of the many spellings) was receiving approximately $8 billion to help control emigration to Italy.

I don’t get why he was dethroned given the apparent cooperation with the West.


23 posted on 09/12/2012 6:19:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Kaslin

Benghazi is only a day’s full speed steaming from Tripoli. There is an appropriate response to this act of war:

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the Shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country’s battles
In the air, on land and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
of United States Marine.

Our flag’s unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought in ev’ry clime and place
Where we could take a gun;
In the snow of far-off Northern lands
And in sunny tropic scenes;
You will find us always on the job—
The United States Marines.

Here’s health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve
In many a strife we’ve fought for life
And never lost our nerve;
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven’s scenes;
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.


24 posted on 09/12/2012 6:20:18 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Romulus
No, it is starting to call into question the war that obama started without the consent of CONGRESS and the consequences of his inept and incompetent non leadership.

LLS

25 posted on 09/12/2012 6:21:19 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Kaslin
Report: Sacked Benghazi Consulate Had No Protection From US Marines

Intentional.

Not even a small doubt.


26 posted on 09/12/2012 6:21:19 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Delhi Rebels
It was a “consulate” in a war zone with confirmed presence of al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood.

LLS

27 posted on 09/12/2012 6:22:39 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Pollster1

8 US Marines were the rescue force? I am sure they sent plenty of muzzies to their virgins but this is an outrage.

This is a cluster and why the MSM wants to talk about Romney. This is going to get real bad for the kenyan as more details come out.


28 posted on 09/12/2012 6:24:49 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Kaslin
Obama gets his 3:00AM call.


29 posted on 09/12/2012 6:25:45 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Romulus

Yes. He will use this to look presidential. (Lower case ‘p’ intentionally.)

There was no aspirin factory to take out so what are four Americans?


30 posted on 09/12/2012 6:30:40 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: TexasCajun

This bad. POTUS literally asleep while the consulate personnel were under attack.

Will we get a photo of barry wearing his jammies in the situation room last night? How about a press conference? What did barry know and when did he know it, etc.


31 posted on 09/12/2012 6:32:29 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: LibLieSlayer

How many other consulates in the Muslim world have marine’s assigned?


32 posted on 09/12/2012 6:32:35 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: lodi90

A Marine Expeditionary Unit has about 2200 men, and I’d consider that a mild response to an attack on our people. Only eight Marines? Granted, they were Marines, and they were only going up against lightly trained thugs, but that’s way too little force to deal with a mob. A real leader would not worry so much about looking provocative, he would make the other side worry about looking provocative. Sadly, we’re stuck with Obama for another 130 terrible, dangerous, and destructive days.


33 posted on 09/12/2012 6:33:07 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“IMO, no foreign nationals can be trusted.”

Yup, and that includes the one resident at 1600 PA Ave...


34 posted on 09/12/2012 6:35:48 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Kaslin
What kind of schmuck would be out and about
on September 11 in a Muslim country ?

35 posted on 09/12/2012 6:38:29 PM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Gene Eric

“I don’t get why he was dethroned given the apparent cooperation with the West.”

Ya gotta ask the islamofacist in the White Hut that question...he engaged in an unconstitutional war to out Gaddafi...


36 posted on 09/12/2012 6:40:45 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: lodi90

“Will we get a photo of barry wearing his jammies in the situation room last night?”

You just know his pjs have ‘President’ all over them and a big CiC decal on the back.

And a drop seat.


37 posted on 09/12/2012 6:43:42 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Kaslin
Accounts of the mayhem at the U.S. consulate, where the ambassador and another diplomat died after a chaotic protest over a film insulting to Islam, remain patchy

The protest was a cover for the hit team.

And now its a cover for a State Department and a White House that don't want to admit that it was a hit designed to commemorate 911.

A stupid you tube is just the cover story that suits the White House.

38 posted on 09/12/2012 6:43:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: Gene Eric

He wasn’t Muslim Brotherhood. Our current government is riddled with them.


39 posted on 09/12/2012 6:45:24 PM PDT by marron
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To: Pollster1

Going in with such a light force reeks of Foggy Bottom involvement and/or a political calculation at the embassy to let the Libyans take the lead. Also reminiscent of Clinton not allowing tanks in Somalia. What a FUBAR!


40 posted on 09/12/2012 6:47:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Going in with such a light force reeks of Foggy Bottom involvement and/or a political calculation at the embassy to let the Libyans take the lead. Also reminiscent of Clinton not allowing tanks in Somalia. What a FUBAR!

Don't forget Jimmy Carter's plans for the hostage rescue in our Iranian embassy.

41 posted on 09/12/2012 6:48:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Delhi Rebels

Well the State Department issued this warning on August 27, 2012!! Didn’t Obama and his Administration get the Memo??

Travel Warning
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs
PrintEmail
Libya

August 27, 2012

The Department of State warns U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Libya. The incidence of violent crime, especially carjacking and robbery, has become a serious problem. In addition, political violence in the form of assassinations and vehicle bombs has increased in both Benghazi and Tripoli. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated September 22, 2011, and notes the resumption of full consular services to U.S. citizens on August 27, 2012.

Libyans cast ballots on July 7 in elections deemed to be free and fair according to election observers. Libya’s General National Congress replaced the Transitional National Council in August 2012 and will lead the country until elections are held on the basis of a new constitution. Despite this progress, violent crime continues to be a problem in Tripoli, Benghazi, and other parts of the country. In particular, armed carjacking and robbery are on the rise. In addition, political violence, including car bombings in Tripoli and assassinations of military officers and alleged former regime officials in Benghazi, has increased. Inter-militia conflict can erupt at any time or any place in the country. Seven Iranian Red Crescent officials were kidnapped July 31 in Benghazi by local militia members, and as of the date of this warning, they have not been released. There have also been several reports of militias briefly apprehending and detaining foreigners due to perceived or actual violations of Libyan law. The Embassy’s ability to intervene in such cases remains limited, as these groups are neither sanctioned nor controlled by the Libyan government.

U.S. Embassy Tripoli resumed full consular services for U.S. citizens in Libya on August 27, 2012.

U.S. citizens traveling to, or remaining in, Libya should use extreme caution and limit nonessential travel within the country, make their own contingency emergency plans, enroll their presence in Libya through the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP), and provide their current contact information and next-of-kin or emergency contact information.

The Embassy’s website, includes consular information and the most recent messages for U.S. citizens in Libya. U.S. citizens in need of emergency assistance should call 091-220-5203 within Libya or 218-91-220-5203 if dialing from outside of Libya.

For information on “What the Department of State Can and Can’t Do in a Crisis,” please visit the Bureau of Consular Affairs’ Emergencies and Crisis link. Up-to-date information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada or, for callers outside the United States and Canada, on a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).

For further information, U.S. citizens should consult the Department of State’s Country Specific Information for Libya. Stay up to date by bookmarking our Bureau of Consular Affairs website, which contains the current Travel Warnings and Travel Alerts as well as the Worldwide Caution. Follow us on Twitter and the Bureau of Consular Affairs page on Facebook as well. You can also download our free Smart Traveler App, available through iTunes and the Android market to have travel information at your fingertips.

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42 posted on 09/12/2012 6:48:54 PM PDT by not2worry ( NO MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: marron; Gene Eric
He wasn’t Muslim Brotherhood. Our current government is riddled with them.

The personal assistant to Secretary of State is a Muslim Terrorist !

43 posted on 09/12/2012 6:53:27 PM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: not2worry

This is going to blow. Nothing the MSM can do.

The US Ambassador was MIA and the President of the United States sent 8 US Marines to his rescue and then hit the sack.

Once the American people get these facts it will finally show without a doubt the kenyan has no clothes. He is done.


44 posted on 09/12/2012 6:53:27 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

So of course, they try to divert attention from their incompetency, by trying to accuse Romney of “jumping the gun” by commenting on the events.

Only the most hardcore Obamabots are going to buy it.


45 posted on 09/12/2012 6:56:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: lodi90
This is going to blow. Nothing the MSM can do.

I disagree, strongly. Obama will order a cruise missile to be fired at an empty Libyan desert location. The MSM will hail the move as decisive leadership. The clip of the cruise missile being fired will played every night on the MSM for a week.

End result: net plus for Obama. Sickening.

46 posted on 09/12/2012 7:10:34 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Kaslin

Obviously, you can’t be too stupid or incompetent to hold a cabinet post or other high ranking position of responsibility with the Food Stamp President’s administration.


47 posted on 09/12/2012 7:17:29 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: Uri’el-2012; marron; Gene Eric

“He wasn’t Muslim Brotherhood. Our current government is riddled with them.”

“The personal assistant to Secretary of State is a Muslim Terrorist !”

Wahid Hamid, obamas pakistani ally at occidental college, is a board member of the business state department.
http://dbb.defense.gov/board_members/wahid_hamid.shtml

I think he also chairs the board of a Pakistani Foundation set up by Hillary a couple of years ago. Pepsi is an arm of the UN and this administration - even the logos are almost identical but that’s by the way.


48 posted on 09/12/2012 8:24:05 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: llevrok
No self respecting Marine (IMHO) would have been over run unless ordered to do so. (I know, that doesnt make sense either)

With the rules of engagement our military have been handcuffed with, I hope they weren't there. They would have been set up for massacre if they followed orders I am afraid.

49 posted on 09/12/2012 10:12:25 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Kaslin; House Atreides; SunkenCiv
This is what I've been saying for so long that the "rebels" are not our friends, not in Libya, not in Egypt and not in Syria

Assad is not our friend either, neither was Gaddafi, but they are/were the devils we know and devils that could be contained better than the multitude of jihadi devils we have now.

Assad should stay, keep killing jihadis and be too busy to worry about israel etc.

The jihadis will focus on getting rid of the secular dictators and vice-versa

50 posted on 09/12/2012 11:47:16 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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