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Official: Libyan Security Handed Ambassador Stevens to Attackers
Breitbart ^ | 12 Sep 2012, 3:16 PM PDT | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 09/12/2012 6:27:35 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

President Obama claims Libyan security forces fought beside Americans against attackers on Tuesday, but a Libyan official says they gave up consulate personnel to the Islamists who murdered them. Libya's Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif says the consulate's security forces moved Ambassador Christopher Stevens and other personnel to a second, safer building once the attacks began. But, he continues, the security forces told the attackers which building Stevens was hiding in, effectively handing him over.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambassador; attacker; carterisobama; chrisstevens; emptychair; libya; obamaiscarter; obamasfault; security; stevens
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November is Coming! Obozo Must GO!

1 posted on 09/12/2012 6:27:45 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Bttt


2 posted on 09/12/2012 6:29:06 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Texas Fossil
Tell me again how Romney calling out obama on this bullsh!t is his foreign policy mistake? obama has not handled once single part of this attack properly. All evidence points to incompetent government idiots that are guided by a blind adherence to a radical ideology.

LLS

3 posted on 09/12/2012 6:35:56 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: LibLieSlayer

But he killed Osama. /sarc


4 posted on 09/12/2012 6:38:39 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Texas Fossil

5 posted on 09/12/2012 6:38:57 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: Texas Fossil

New and disturbing details in this story.


6 posted on 09/12/2012 6:39:48 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Texas Fossil

nobody is talking about how the Libyan Revolution loosed FIVE THOUSAND SA-12 Strella MANPADS missiles out to....WHO KNOWS.

Khadafi knew well about air-raids, right?

These are the light anti-aircraft missiles that will NOT be fooled by simple counter-measures like flares, etc.

They don’t know WHO has them —hazard your own guess? I’ll bet it’s the same as mine....


7 posted on 09/12/2012 6:39:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Texas Fossil

Hey, how is Obama supposed to know the truth? He doesn’t meet with his Intelligence people anymore.


8 posted on 09/12/2012 6:41:37 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: Texas Fossil

This can’t be true.

Hillary Clinton (She-Who-Cannot-Be Doubted) said the Libyan people and the government all love us (praise their savior Barack H. Obama) and that “This was an attack by a small and savage group”.

Probably just a few disgruntled muzzie “yoots” who don’t even know each other and have no idea that it was the 9/11 anniversary.


9 posted on 09/12/2012 6:41:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Texas Fossil
This kind of fits the weasel words of the state dept weasels. See http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/09/197694.htm (cut and paste into browser if you want to go to that site). They say "I think in the accounting that I gave, I made clear that security personnel were endeavoring to get him out of the building when they got separated by the incredibly thick smoke and fire – if you’ve seen the pictures from the building you can have some sense of how awful the conditions were – and that they then turned right back around, got more help, and went back in to look for him. So this was really a quite – a heroic effort."

"Frankly, we are not clear on the circumstances between the time that he got separated from his – from the rest of the group inside the burning building, to the time that we were notified that he was in a Benghazi hospital. And again, we were not able to see him until his body was returned to us at the airport."

"With regard to the security arrangements, I think you will understand that we never talk in detail about how our security is arranged. And we particularly don’t talk about security arrangements for – personal security arrangements for senior level personnel."

"What I can tell you is that security in Benghazi included a local guard force outside of the compound on which we rely, which is similar to the way we are postured all over the world. We had a physical perimeter barrier, obviously. And then we had a robust American security presence inside the compound, including a strong component of regional security officers. But I’m not going to go any further than that on the specifics."

"There are reports out there that I cannot confirm that he was brought to the hospital by Libyans who found him. Obviously, he had to get there somehow. No Americans were responsible for that. But again, I’m not in the position to confirm because we frankly don’t know how he got from where Americans last saw him. And again, we were told that he was at the hospital, but we didn’t see him there ourselves."

10 posted on 09/12/2012 6:42:12 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: unixfox

Perfect... you just framed the left’s argument in four words... or five if you are biden or obama!

LLS


11 posted on 09/12/2012 6:42:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Texas Fossil

With all Stevens’ cultural and liguisitic insights into the Middle East he didn’t see this coming?


12 posted on 09/12/2012 6:44:41 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: CitizenM

So what changed between August 27, 2012 and September 11, 2012? Why wasn’t our Ambassador and our Consulate Protected? The State Department knew about the danagers in Libya!!!

Travel Warning
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs
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Libya

August 27, 2012

The Department of State warns U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Libya. The incidence of violent crime, especially carjacking and robbery, has become a serious problem. In addition, political violence in the form of assassinations and vehicle bombs has increased in both Benghazi and Tripoli. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated September 22, 2011, and notes the resumption of full consular services to U.S. citizens on August 27, 2012.

Libyans cast ballots on July 7 in elections deemed to be free and fair according to election observers. Libya’s General National Congress replaced the Transitional National Council in August 2012 and will lead the country until elections are held on the basis of a new constitution. Despite this progress, violent crime continues to be a problem in Tripoli, Benghazi, and other parts of the country. In particular, armed carjacking and robbery are on the rise. In addition, political violence, including car bombings in Tripoli and assassinations of military officers and alleged former regime officials in Benghazi, has increased. Inter-militia conflict can erupt at any time or any place in the country. Seven Iranian Red Crescent officials were kidnapped July 31 in Benghazi by local militia members, and as of the date of this warning, they have not been released. There have also been several reports of militias briefly apprehending and detaining foreigners due to perceived or actual violations of Libyan law. The Embassy’s ability to intervene in such cases remains limited, as these groups are neither sanctioned nor controlled by the Libyan government.

U.S. Embassy Tripoli resumed full consular services for U.S. citizens in Libya on August 27, 2012.

U.S. citizens traveling to, or remaining in, Libya should use extreme caution and limit nonessential travel within the country, make their own contingency emergency plans, enroll their presence in Libya through the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP), and provide their current contact information and next-of-kin or emergency contact information.

The Embassy’s website, includes consular information and the most recent messages for U.S. citizens in Libya. U.S. citizens in need of emergency assistance should call 091-220-5203 within Libya or 218-91-220-5203 if dialing from outside of Libya.

For information on “What the Department of State Can and Can’t Do in a Crisis,” please visit the Bureau of Consular Affairs’ Emergencies and Crisis link. Up-to-date information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada or, for callers outside the United States and Canada, on a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).

For further information, U.S. citizens should consult the Department of State’s Country Specific Information for Libya. Stay up to date by bookmarking our Bureau of Consular Affairs website, which contains the current Travel Warnings and Travel Alerts as well as the Worldwide Caution. Follow us on Twitter and the Bureau of Consular Affairs page on Facebook as well. You can also download our free Smart Traveler App, available through iTunes and the Android market to have travel information at your fingertips.

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13 posted on 09/12/2012 6:45:15 PM PDT by not2worry ( NO MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: Texas Fossil
It was a rhetorical question and not pointed at you. It seemed like it was so I wanted to make sure that you knew.

LLS

14 posted on 09/12/2012 6:45:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Installation of the Muslim Brotherhood into control of multiple countries has been Obozo’s aim from the beginning.

His true believer staff is incompetent. He is not. He is Treacherous, Traitorous.

Lying Commie B_Tard.


15 posted on 09/12/2012 6:46:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: gandalftb

Here’s an alternate account of what transpired. This makes a lot more sense to me.


16 posted on 09/12/2012 6:48:13 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Obozo Must GO!”

Send him to Lybia...


17 posted on 09/12/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: DTogo
We do not at this point know what element of extremists in Libya actually killed him.

This was not a simple mob killing. It was an assassination.

The left does not understand. They think they can "use" the Muzzies to gain power. They cannot fathom that the Muzzies will never share power with anyone. Hate rules their very being. In this case the leftist are the "useful idiots".

18 posted on 09/12/2012 6:53:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
He is all of that but he is incompetent because he cannot think or reason under pressure. He is not well educated or even smart... but he is conniving and treacherous and a traitor in the classic sense. He refused questions today because he could not handle a real question... if the press ever dared to ask one.

LLS

19 posted on 09/12/2012 6:54:27 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Obama, like all Liberals, are following the Carter doctrine. They believe that apologizing to everyone who hates us will make them love us..it didnt work in 1979 and its not working today. Obama is a clone of Carter plain and simple. He like all Dems follow the same logic


20 posted on 09/12/2012 6:54:35 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Or to GITMO. Isn’t that where we send Enemy Combatants?


21 posted on 09/12/2012 6:55:19 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: palmer
the quote continues..."oh, and that warm liquid running down your leg? Here's an umbrella. It's raining."
22 posted on 09/12/2012 6:59:29 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Our only Hope is Obama's Change.........of Address!!!!)
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To: Texas Fossil

If there was such a firefight where the hell are the bodies and the wounded? This reminds me of the firefight in Die Hard II where the mercs and the Delta Response team are in the caper together and have a viscious shootout using blanks on both sides.


23 posted on 09/12/2012 7:00:36 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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Obama’s regime won’t allow any wounded to be seen. The photo of the Ambassador was leaked, that’s why Hillary quickly claimed the muslims were taking him to a hospital.

Wasn’t Obama the guy who demanded photos of flag draped coffins to be published? Well, it’s different now, he has a fundraiser with Beyonce and a 7AM tee time.


24 posted on 09/12/2012 7:04:19 PM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: gaijin
Standing O for Obama!

Well done Mr. President. Leading from behind is working out so very well for us and the country's national security. /s

Too bad 60 minutes doesn't report on this. Oh well, it's Bush's fault some how or another.

26 posted on 09/12/2012 7:07:04 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Of course not. He cannot think under pressure because his very being was conjured. His past is a total Fraud. One Lie on top of another Lie.

He does not know what is real and what is an illusion.

The world to Obozo is his propaganda. His own lies will destroy him.

He serves the “Father-of-Lies”. He looses in the end.


27 posted on 09/12/2012 7:07:25 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Send Hillary, who needs more stinking Marines.” This is what I think Bill Clinton is thinking.


28 posted on 09/12/2012 7:07:55 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: palmer

I’ve seen these ‘local guards’ in another Middle Eastern country - they come from the poorest regions, have no education and minimal training, and are usually asleep after 0100. We used to wonder if they’d at least leave their weapons behind for us if anything happened.


29 posted on 09/12/2012 7:10:21 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Sarah Barracuda

You are correct but he is worse than carter ever was... and carter was the worst... up until sparky.

LLS


30 posted on 09/12/2012 7:10:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Texas Fossil

This version of the story sounds a lot more like the truth. The rented security would not treat the threat of beheading lightly and just handed them over.


31 posted on 09/12/2012 7:11:17 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Perfectly stated.

LLS


32 posted on 09/12/2012 7:12:18 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Texas Fossil

I do have to say that FReepers are not exhibiting the creativity here that they should. I wish I knew how to photoshop. Endless opportunities here.

Then again, it’s probably good that I don’t know photoshop. This type of thing really angers me.


33 posted on 09/12/2012 7:15:22 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Vote for willard - he doesn't need to earn your vote, he's entitled to it.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yeah I never actually thought I would ever say that anyone was worse than Jimmy Carter, because I always knew that Carter was the worst President..Obama has beaten him for sure in that category. Obama and other Dems live by that progressive ideology thats its OK to apologize to these scumbags because they think thats how you get peace. You dont get peace by negotiating with TERRORISTS, you get peace by blowing these damn terrorists heads off


34 posted on 09/12/2012 7:19:02 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Texas Fossil; All

#15 & #17 BUMP-TO-THE-TOP!


35 posted on 09/12/2012 7:20:59 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Texas Fossil

OOPS #15 (I’ll take #17 also) and #18 BUMP-TO-THE-TOP!

(WORTH REPEATING ANYWAY)


36 posted on 09/12/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Texas Fossil

Hillary and Obama should be so proud of themselves. The Clintons as well as Obama should be tried for treason and their cowardliness.


37 posted on 09/12/2012 7:25:07 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Texas Fossil

Who ya gonna believe? Obama or your lyin eyes?


38 posted on 09/12/2012 7:26:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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39 posted on 09/12/2012 7:26:37 PM PDT by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: Texas Fossil

This is going to get ugly. Very. These idiots are counting on obama being a muslim or at least a muslim symp. However, what they are doing is threatening HIS power.

He’s going to lash out. Wildly and without a plan.

And then it gets really messy.


40 posted on 09/12/2012 7:31:09 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Yes, obama does daily.
41 posted on 09/12/2012 7:31:31 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (54 days)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

You are correct. Blackwater or similar? Not play out like this.


42 posted on 09/12/2012 7:31:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Neither. Certainly not Obozo. But even my eyes are suspect on this type of incident.

This calls for good judgement, very lacking commodity in DC. Even rarer in the Dem Party.


43 posted on 09/12/2012 7:34:25 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

Claude Rains moment.

We knew this yesterday.

Not to make light of this, Sorry for the Ammbassador and the 3 others who have died.


44 posted on 09/12/2012 7:38:58 PM PDT by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: CitizenM

Give the guy a break, he’s busy lowering the oceans don’t you know.


45 posted on 09/12/2012 7:38:58 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: palmer

The photos that are going around make it pretty clear he was dead while still surrounded on the streets. I’m not saying this is wrong, I’m just curious if he did actually make it to a hospital.


46 posted on 09/12/2012 7:44:51 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: Texas Fossil

Yeh, I guess Barry never put two and two together when Afghan security forces shoot one of our US military officers every other day.


47 posted on 09/12/2012 7:46:31 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

She’s had practice ducking bullets while running across a tarmac before ....... right? /s


48 posted on 09/12/2012 7:46:43 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: palmer
"What I can tell you is that security in Benghazi included a local guard force outside of the compound on which we rely, which is similar to the way we are postured all over the world. We had a physical perimeter barrier, obviously. And then we had a robust American security presence inside the compound, including a strong component of regional security officers.

The Marines have already posted they had no presence in Benghazi. The American consulate was dependent on local "police" and security forces. Whatever "robust American security presence" means is a big question based on the Marine statement. I suspect this is a CYA moment.

49 posted on 09/12/2012 7:46:43 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Right on!

LLS


50 posted on 09/12/2012 7:57:10 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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