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Fox News Poll: Obama tops Romney in post-convention poll (Democrats oversampled)
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | September 12, 2012 | Fox News

Posted on 09/12/2012 7:14:59 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Is Intellingent Obama 41% Romney 25% Is Honest Obama 46% Romney 35% Steady Leader Obama 50% Romney 40% Has Right Experience Obama 49% Romney 42% Is a Hard Worker Obama 39% Romney 32% Will Keep Promises Obama 43% Romney 39% Understand Am History Obama 44% Romney 41% Has Strong Moral Values Obama 43% Romney 39% Understands Captalism Obama 29% Romney 54%

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; riggedpolls
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Even the Fox Poll can't be relied upon to give you a reliable poll. Democrats outpolled 42% to 36%. Obama scores better than Romney across the board. even has stronger moral values and understands American history better than Romney. Dick Morris was on O'Reilly tonight and O'Reilly asked him what he thought about Rasmussen having Romney down only one and Fox having him down 6 (it is 5). O'Reilly then said "do you still think Romney is going to win this thing". Morris said "yes and he's gonna win it big". PS: Fox News should go ahead and merge with CNN or MSNBC. This poll was conducted by liberals for democrats consumption.
1 posted on 09/12/2012 7:15:05 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Did Morris point out any flaws in the Fox poll?


2 posted on 09/12/2012 7:18:38 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The Fox poll had Kerry beating Bush by 5% on election day 2004. No doubt BOR believed that poll too.


3 posted on 09/12/2012 7:20:31 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: NKP_Vet

FOX has joined the others in their efforts to do whatever it takes to get the Kenyan reelected.


4 posted on 09/12/2012 7:20:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: NKP_Vet

They must be polling those dead likely voters again.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 7:21:19 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: NKP_Vet

What is going on with Fox News polls? Why are they oversampling democrats? Have they gone liberal or are they producing disinformation to lull the Obama campaign into complacency and overconfidence? Any ideas?


6 posted on 09/12/2012 7:21:37 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (If knowledge is power, then why is the MSM mafia so powerful?)
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To: CaptainK

No specifically as he hadn’t had a chance to look at it. But he did make the point that all these pollsters are using 2008 model and are oversampling Dems and under sampling Republicans. If you look at poll, that is what Fox did.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 7:22:50 PM PDT by scbison
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To: NKP_Vet

Let Obama think he is winning. Hopefully he will keep doing to America what he has been doing since January of 2009. The poll that matters will happen in November.


8 posted on 09/12/2012 7:24:08 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: NKP_Vet

Has the Kenyan ever been behind Romney in a FOX “poll”? I really don’t think he has.


9 posted on 09/12/2012 7:25:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: Red Steel

I’m not trying to annoy you, but I did a web search recently on Fox News polls from the Bush/Kerry election and their poll just a few days before the election had Bush leading by about 2.5 points, if I recall correctly. I was looking into the change in Fox News polls and how they seem to be slanting their polls now in favor of Zero. If you search for those polls from 2004 on Google I think you’ll find the same poll results that I found.


10 posted on 09/12/2012 7:25:30 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (If knowledge is power, then why is the MSM mafia so powerful?)
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To: NKP_Vet
"Is Honest Obama

Steady Leader Obama

Is a Hard Worker Obama

Has Strong Moral Values Obama

Has Right Experience Obama"



The Fox pollsters found the brain dead.

11 posted on 09/12/2012 7:25:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: NKP_Vet
In Obama loving America he is just so cool - overseas in the ME not so much.........Moroccan protesters chant 'death to Obama'
12 posted on 09/12/2012 7:27:12 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: NKP_Vet; CaptainK

Poll samples registered voters, not likely voters.

Any poll of registered voters shows Dems up by five or so more than they should be.

A “registered voter” poll is quicker, cheaper and Demmier.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 7:27:21 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: NKP_Vet; Red Steel

BOR is not famous for his critical thinking skills. Come to think of it, I’m not sure why he is famous at all.


14 posted on 09/12/2012 7:29:10 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: NKP_Vet

The islamist news network produces a poll that favors the islamist n chief.
Go figure


15 posted on 09/12/2012 7:31:49 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: CaptainK

that poll must be more about race sampleing than democrat sampleing


16 posted on 09/12/2012 7:32:29 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: CaptainK

A few—BOR never lets him get too wonkish. He said that the older (meaning pre ‘08 results) 11% “standby” of how blacks, Latinos, youth would vote was being replaced by a 13% standby (based on ‘08 results), and that that assumption was flat-out false because that many minority voters could not be relied on to vote again for Obama this go-around. The “standby” (I think) I’m talking about is what pollsters substitute for pollees they can’t reach, a condition far more extensive now than in previous years, thanks to caller-ID, etc. It’s not just an oversampling of rats; it’s the metrics they use to calculate what the response SHOULD be if folks were actually responding to the pollsters.


17 posted on 09/12/2012 7:32:54 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

He’s the Paris Hilton of old blowhards, famous for being famous. He’d have been a regular on Hollywood Squares, back in the day.


18 posted on 09/12/2012 7:32:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: NKP_Vet
Considering Obama’s performance over two days, if the USA wants to reelect BHO we are deserving of the consequences, every last one of us..

Those that knew better who failed to convince those that didn't know better will suffer the most.

19 posted on 09/12/2012 7:34:15 PM PDT by oyez ( .Apparently The U.S. CONSTITUTION has been reduced to the consistency of quicksand.)
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To: NKP_Vet

what is the ratio of Republicans vs. Democrats in battleground states. Is the population more Dem or more Republican..or more indelpendant


20 posted on 09/12/2012 7:34:25 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: NKP_Vet

Polls before the real polls on election day are a waste of time. If you like your candidate, don’t let polls discourage you. Polls should not be used to support or undermine your opinion.

Just do your best to determine the right thing to do, and do it on election day.


21 posted on 09/12/2012 7:35:03 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Red Steel

not braind dead. that looks like a minority pole.


22 posted on 09/12/2012 7:35:39 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: NKP_Vet

Obama a hard worker? LOL. This.can’t be a serious poll


23 posted on 09/12/2012 7:36:31 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: NKP_Vet

MSM is trying the best to help Obama.


24 posted on 09/12/2012 7:40:41 PM PDT by granada
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To: socialism_stinX

The Fox News poll is based on live telephone interviews on landlines and cell phones from September 9 to September 11 among 1,056 randomly-chosen likely voters nationwide. “Likely voters are registered voters who are considered most likely to vote in the November presidential election. The poll is conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R). For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/fox-news-poll-obama-has-lead-over-romney-in-post-convention-poll/?intcmp=trending#ixzz26JSuf28W


25 posted on 09/12/2012 7:40:49 PM PDT by granada
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To: jersey117

But, but, zero is a hard worker. You don’t think its easy playing golf every day do you? It takes work to walk to and from AF1 and land in and out of fundraising events. Of course, its also hard work making sure the wookie is happy. Cause if the wookie isn’t happy - no one is./s


26 posted on 09/12/2012 7:41:36 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: socialism_stinX
I’m not trying to annoy you, but I did a web search recently on Fox News polls from the Bush/Kerry election and their poll just a few days before the election had Bush leading by about 2.5 points, if I recall correctly.




I don't know if the Fox pollsters published online their final adjusted poll in 2004 election, but I clearly remember a Fox talking head reporting the Kerry 5% lead on election day. And a day before...

Reported here on FR, that on November 1st 2004, a day before the election, Kerry had a 3% lead over Bush:

(November 1, 2004) Fox News Poll: Kerry 48%, Bush 45% (RV)

Where I said in post #6 four years ago, "On election day in 2004, the FOX poll had Kerry winning by 5%."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2102492/posts?page=6#6

27 posted on 09/12/2012 7:44:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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What was the breakdown of the voters i.e. Republicans vs. Democrats who made up the electorate in 2010?


28 posted on 09/12/2012 7:44:49 PM PDT by Laura722
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

>> Come to think of it, I’m not sure why he is famous at all.

‘cause he has a mouth the size of a train tunnel, and the patient, persuasive demeanor of a mick barroom brawler, and that skill set is in demand on teevee.

(I’m just guessing here.)


29 posted on 09/12/2012 7:46:52 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Red Steel
you nailed him to the wall.
30 posted on 09/12/2012 7:50:17 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Laura722

I think I read 36-36 but am not 100 pct sure


31 posted on 09/12/2012 7:52:46 PM PDT by italianquaker ( 17 percent of the tea partiers support barry obama, the fox poll said so lol)
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To: RegulatorCountry; All
"He’s the Paris Hilton of old "BLOWHARDS",
famous for being famous."


32 posted on 09/12/2012 7:56:04 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: NKP_Vet
Fox announced it was shifting left earlier this year.

But Fox staff has always been Dems .

I recall 80 % vote Dem on this Manhattan based operation voted Dem in 2008.
I know the local Tampa Fox was 99 % Leftist when my wife worked there and she guessed 50 % gay.

BOR is a DEM .
He pals are Barb-WA WA and professional adulteress Sally Quinn !
He fools no one .

33 posted on 09/12/2012 7:56:27 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Red Steel; ncalburt

Found it; bookmarked a link to it in my web browser. Look at this poll released two days before the poll you referenced. Geez, Fox poll results moved significantly within just two days:

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/103004_poll.pdf


34 posted on 09/12/2012 8:01:32 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (If knowledge is power, then why is the MSM mafia so powerful?)
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To: socialism_stinX
Any ideas?

A horse race boosts ratings.

If the media were to report how unpopular Obama really is they wouldn't make nearly the amount of money they do when they manipulate the numbers to be neck and neck.

35 posted on 09/12/2012 8:05:40 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Red Steel

Maybe this is a head fake, with polling served up to broaden their audience to include more of the stupid. Their polling has always been discounted and the only attraction it could possibly hold would be to the stupid, who might be convinced how fair, how balanced they are.

FOX uses the master, Rasmussen, for the real take away and use him regularly.


36 posted on 09/12/2012 8:15:17 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: ncalburt

And don’t forget his man buddy Dennis Miller, who made a fortune making fun of conservatives before 9/11, then supposedly had an awakening and became “conservative”. A “conservative” who still proudly claims he is pro-abortion and pro-homo marriage, but he believes in a strong military, so now he claims he’s “conservative” and talks about the “left” all the time. Well ground control to Dennis Miller, you’ve been a liberal all your life and you’re still a liberal.


37 posted on 09/12/2012 8:17:04 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Mach9

Thanks


38 posted on 09/12/2012 8:17:33 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The poll was conducted by::::

Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R).


39 posted on 09/12/2012 8:18:58 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: NKP_Vet
Obama can top Romney all he wants. Obama can be reelected by anti-americans to lead America into hell.

But I won't go there.

The Constitution means nothing to bambi and bambi means nothing to me.

40 posted on 09/12/2012 8:22:55 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: socialism_stinX

Hi,
looks like your poll is “doctored” the dates 28-29 - the 8 is not the same as the 8 below in the scoring. and the 9 is too big.

I realise it’s an old poll and all, but just saying the fonts are different.


41 posted on 09/12/2012 8:26:00 PM PDT by freeB
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To: NKP_Vet

Conservatives should refuse to watch Fox News for a couple of weeks. Ailes might see the error of his ways. While he’s at it, he could fire Juan Williams and
Bob Beckel.


42 posted on 09/12/2012 8:28:39 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: socialism_stinX
I think they actually changed to a new pollster I just remembered reading about it a while back I will see if I can find information.
43 posted on 09/12/2012 8:28:57 PM PDT by funfan
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To: socialism_stinX; Red Steel; ncalburt

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2004/president/us/general_election_bush_vs_kerry-939.html


44 posted on 09/12/2012 8:37:34 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: freeB

It looks OK to me. I think what you’re seeing is very slight optical illusions that make the 8s and 9s look different depending on what characters are next to them in the document. It’s also possible that the software that produced the document does not make all the characters exactly the same size and shape in all parts of the document. But I doubt that anyone “photoshopped” this document—no motive for anyone to do that.


45 posted on 09/12/2012 8:42:27 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (If knowledge is power, then why is the MSM mafia so powerful?)
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To: socialism_stinX
Fox polls have always been a disaster and weird.
Don't even try to figure them out.

Just remember Sheppy Smith has his slimy left wing paws involved in setting these push polls up.

46 posted on 09/12/2012 8:52:35 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: NKP_Vet
Yes, another opportunist like BOR , the former anchor from some sleazy celebrity gossip show
47 posted on 09/12/2012 8:54:49 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Tau Food

“Just do your best to determine the right thing to do, and do it on election day.”

Unfortunately these polls are propaganda targeting those that can be influemced by a “Jump on the bandwagon” campaign by the left.

Besides the electoral college isn’t based on the total of the popular vote which would permit states like California to sway the election into the Democrat’s lap.

The above scenario being a leftist wet dream!


48 posted on 09/12/2012 9:18:03 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: NKP_Vet
I think I'm now understanding why Beck is putting his "network" on cable. He could very well steal some audience share from Fox given that network's decline.
49 posted on 09/12/2012 9:22:26 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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FOX needs to be very careful..

WE VOTERS MADE THEM #1

AND WE VERY WELL CAN UNDO THAT AS WELL...

JUST TURN OFF FOX.

50 posted on 09/12/2012 9:40:27 PM PDT by haircutter
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